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Kamiya again comments on Bayonetta 2’s initially troubled fate and how Nintendo saved the game

Posted on September 30, 2014 by (@NE_Brian) in News, Wii U | 0 Likes

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Last week on Twitter, Platinum Games’ Hideki Kamiya commented further on the development of Bayonetta 2. As has been said before, the game was in a very troubled state before Nintendo stepped in.

Kamiya noted in his tweets that Bayonetta 2’s problems came about when it was initially with SEGA. Something happened when the project was in the works there, and development halted. The game was pitched to various publishers, though it seems that most declined picking up Bayonetta 2. However, Nintendo agreed to step in and development was only then able to proceed.

Head past the break for a full translation of Kamiya’s tweets. They’re quite interesting, even if some of the tidbits had been shared previously!

I think I have discussed this many times before but here goes… First of all, we [Platinum Games] are developers and receive support from publishers by making games that they request or suggest.

As for Bayonetta, we developed the game after signing a deal with SEGA. Later it was decided to also develop the sequel, so we started working on Bayonetta 2.

When development had progressed to a certain degree, in SEGA’s situation it turned into “This isn’t a good plan”, so development halted temporarily.

Without funding we didn’t have the possibility to continue development, but we wanted to get this partially developed Bayonetta 2 available to the public one way or another. So we offered it to various publishers, but as it is a big title, we couldn’t find a partner company. Finally, Bayonetta 2 was about to get terminated completely, when…

Nintendo came in and lent a hand and we were able to restart the development we so desired. Finally the game was released last week, so in five years, we were able to make Bayonetta 2 available to the public.

Knowing those circumstances, if someone is still angry for heading towards Nintendo, I wonder what’s the reason for that, wouldn’t you tell me in a way that is easy to understand?

As I have said earlier, if you want Bayonetta 2 on PS4 or Xbox One, how about trying to ask Nintendo… If Nintendo doesn’t say yes, it’s not going to happen… While you’re at it, try asking for Mario and Zelda too…

If you’re wondering what those last few tweets are about, Kamiya was likely being pestered again by certain gamers requesting Bayonetta 2 on other platforms. Given how Nintendo aided in its development and ended up publishing the title, that’s not too likely to happen.

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  • nekoknight

    “As I have said earlier, if you want Bayonetta 2 on PS4 or Xbox One, how about trying to ask Nintendo… If Nintendo doesn’t say yes, it’s not going to happen… While you’re at it, try asking for Mario and Zelda too…”
    Ha ha ha! I love it! ^_^

    • cusman

      Nice joke aside, I really wouldn’t mind if Nintendo games went to other consoles. I am tired of buying mediocre behind the times, poorly conceived, poorly supported gimmick success or bust Nintendo consoles.

      Who wouldn’t want Mario and Zelda on PS4 / XBO, and not have to contend with having to buy another Nintendo console that really only gets Nintendo games (or shovel ware), because it could never offer the same experience for 3rd party games as other stronger consoles.

      • uPadWatcher

        Nintendo (including all franchise characters) will always be ONLY on their systems. It’s useless and pointless to deny it.

      • HarakiriKami

        Hell no!!

        Nintendo’s consoles are really well made. Hell, the Wii U is several times stronger than the Wii but its quiter and draws less energy and heat than that machine does.

        NIntendo makes inexpensive and efficient but sturdy hardware. They’re willing to do things that no other company is willing to do. To experiment and really craft an environment in terms of content and development space entirely unto their own.

        The way they do business is so far removed from what Sony or MS is doing and it shows in how they operate. Infact they have more in common with Valve XD.

        Besides Nintendo’s able to make the games they do and the choices they make because they make their own hardware. They can fund a wide variety of games like Bayonetta 2 and not worry about the profit margins of the game because it will push their systems.

        Nintendo afterall has always been a company that made their own way by doing things differently. 125 years ago

        • HarakiriKami

          It began a Long time ago, In the Meiji Era , a critical period in Japanese History. A time where Japan looked to the West as they modernized from the Samurai Shogunate system they had in place.

          Meiji Restoration

          Meiji Era was the period when Japan abandoned the Shogunate system. This system was the form of government that took over the country a thousand of years ago from the emperor. The government of samurai and landlords.

          This transition from samurai to the government of Meiji Era was a pain. There’s a film about it called The Last Samurai. This film is not really accurate, because it tries to paint the samurai system as a system of peace and love, nature and mutual understanding and that Meiji government was like a dictatorship. It’s not true. The samurai system was a system of fear where samurai warriors could do almost everything they wanted and the landlords weren’t really fair to the people.

          During that era, the Emperor passed a law that made the bearing of swords illegal which made the samurai class illegal too.(Too lazy? Watch Ruroni Kenshin)

          The emperor and his government, the Meiji government, started to modernize Japan, because the samurai system was like the West of the Middle Age. It was an Emperor order to go to the West to understand our way of living.

          The cards and gambling

          So, this was a era of many entrepreneurs trying to do the things the westerners were doing. Companies like Mitsubish were founded and also Nintendo.

          Nintendo in fact started as a card shop. The card business was shrinking, because Japan government didn’t like gambling. It was illegal and since Japan started its business with the West, during shogunate era, the foreign cards were banned.

          Although Japanese cards (those that use illustrations instead of numbers) weren’t illegal, it wasn’t as popular as in the past, because people couldn’t gamble (so why cards, right?).

          Then, this guy, Fusajiru Yamauchi decided to create a hand crafted art kind of card. It was very beautiful, not like the usual cards with common illustrations. He called his cards shop: Nintendo Koppai.

          It was highly successful and soon he opened another shop in Osaka.

          So since the start, Nintendo always tried to create his own way. Instead of compete with another cards, he decided to make his own card, hand-painted, that became a hit.

          And to this day, Nintendo still creates gorgeous art, from hanafuda through video games, they walk their own way.

          They never lose their way.

          • Codename: D.A.V.I.D.

            Great read, thanks for sharing!

        • cusman

          The 3DS released with screens that get damaged. It also lacked much processing power and dual-analog. Then they came up with the big bulky 3DS XL which finally had decent screens that don’t self-injure, yet again poor processing power and missing dual-analog.

          Now finally they are coming out with new 3DS and new 3DS XL, which have boosted processing power, added dual-analog nub, and hopefully no screen flaws.

          I used to think Nintendo hardware is top notch and a plus point, but my Gamecube and Wii both had fails that needed to be repaired (under warranty), while my PS3 and X360 stayed strong (and Xbox original also still works). I never owned the PS2. My PS4 and WiiU are working fine, but what they released as the WiiU at launch was the most broken worthless piece of crap system OS of any computer device I have ever used (slow and unstable crashing all the time). It wasn’t until 1+ years of some serious patching before the WiiU became stable and fast enough to not be a constant reminder of how crap it was at launch.

          I think the Nintendo fan console loyalty is foolish. It took me some time to realize it, but now I feel Nintendo is really just good at making games, not so much on hardware or system level stuff.

          • Jose

            Well I never had the problem you are having, my 3DS is really resistent, I had a Gamebor SP and not a single problem, my Wii has fallen down like 10 times and after 5 years of using it the Disc reader finally doesn’t work(sshh It was kind of pirated to use pirate games). the controllers…more sturdy impossible.

          • Guest

            It’s been over a year and sony still hasn’t fixed the stupid error ce-34878-0 because legally, they don’t have to, since the user agreement on that console makes you renounce to your rights to sue sony or demand anything from them in case you get a defective product or any other kind of problem, for example if your credit card information gets stolen like when the PSN gets hacked

            also remember the red ring of death and blue light of death

            btw, the 3DS is the most successful console of the current generation and has by far the best catalog, and also Nintendo has a much bigger capital than all of Sony so why would they quit making hardware, they’re the only ones innovating and they’re the main pillar of the industry, either sony or microsoft could quit, one of them could be gone and the industry could still mantain balance, the most likely is microsoft since the console bussiness has never been very profitable for microsoft and their investors are pushing them to stop the xbox brand to focus on their core markets where they’re being annihilated by google, amazon and many more.
            competitiveness is good, otherwise we would get overpriced consoles with no quality software, in the past consoles were actually much more different, but now xbox 360/xbox one and playstation 3/playstation 4 are practically the same thing, just a different controller, if Nintendo was gone we would have the same console TWICE

          • cusman

            I disagree with your notion that Nintendo is the only one that innovates or that they are a main pillar of the industry. Nintendo by market share is increasingly irrelevant to vast majority of gamers.

            I also disagree with the claim that 3DS has better game library than other systems, but that is subjective to my specific choice of games I enjoy.

            I don’t know what ce-xxxx error you are talking about.

          • HarakiriKami

            You can put a 3DS inside a washing machine while its in sleep mode and It’ll still come out running perfectly after putting it in a bag of rice for a bit.

            You cant say the same for your Iphone or your playstation vita.

            Trademark #Nintendium™

          • cusman

            My Wii got killed with the software patch that was supposed to make playing VC games from SD card work.

            When I sent it in for repair (they covered even 2+ years beyond the initial warranty because they knew their software patch had killed it), what they sent back to me didn’t have the same System ID anymore. This meant I lost all my System level data, and all my Mii’s and my Wii Friends, and I couldn’t copy/use any of my VC games or save files on the SD card, and a whole host of other issues each requiring a ton of tedious time consuming manual one at a time corrections.

            It proved to me Nintendo is crap at System design. As a gamer, I am not looking to buy a plastic toy that doesn’t break. I am looking to buy a sophisticated system with data and services that are more robust and portable between systems.

          • LareBear

            The best gaming console, but what are you playing on it?

          • Adrian Juarez Rivera

            Blu rays movies my friend blu rays movies…… its the only thing that machine can run…..

          • sonicfan1373

            You do realize that you could have called Nintendo up and they would have transferred your old data to the new console.
            It is not the most ideal solution (and one that we have wanted Nintendo to change for years) but at the very least they would have had to restore all of your VC and Wiiware games or given you Wii Point credits to repurchase.

      • smashbrolink

        Your logic is flawed.
        Sony and Microsoft gamers would only make Nintendo franchises fail, because they will always value, and support, the next Uncharted, Halo, CoD, BF, and Madden games ( or, Heck, other third party games in general) over the kings of bright, colorful, non-graphically-intensive games that Nintendo makes.
        In fact, you’ll regularly see them going out of their way to call Nintendo’s games “kiddy crap”, that “mature gamers” don’t actually want.
        The number of gamers on those systems that actually would support Nintendo’s games, is a pathetically small minority.
        Nintendo going to those systems is the same as sending their franchises off to die.

        • cusman

          Every “gamer” I know with a Nintendo system (not some parent that bought a Wii for their kids, but people that actually play themselves) also owns at least one of the other systems (PS3, X360, PS4, XBO).

          • smashbrolink

            Ask most of them which one they consider their main system and which one they could live without.
            Guarantee you most of them aren’t going to keep their Wii U if given the chance, because there’s simply more third party games for them elsewhere.

          • cusman

            Before the Wii and the WiiU, I would have disagreed with you because I loved NES, SNES, N64, and Gamecube

            It is the Wii that had a short active life (for me) as a gaming machine with very few game releases I cared about (not counting the 1000’s of shovel ware games it got), and then the WiiU again released as underpowered machine incapable of hosting majority of AAA 3rd party games, except now with a gimmick that failed to attract the casual masses (like Wii did) or self justify with anything more than couple of launch games.

            The WiiU is a significant improvement over the Wii. The problem is that it doesn’t really self-justify the Gamepad gimmick, and it is still severely underpowered / incapable compared to PS4 and XBO which are just $100 more. There is also the issue of the WiiU not having much future, while the PS4 and XBO are just getting started.

            Fair or otherwise, the WiiU was pretty much dead on arrival. I think in large part to just how broken it was when it first launched which I am sure lead to poor word of mouth. Beyond that Nintendo has been doing well to support it, improve it, release really good games for it, but it lost 3rd party very early and no signs of getting any of that back for rest of WiiU life-cycle.

          • HarakiriKami

            The Wii has 1154 retail releases. It doesnt have 1000’s of shovelware.

            It had less shovelware than the PS2 and PS1 did to be quite honest. What turned you off was the systems marketing. Not the systems library I have a feeling you ignored the large majority off.

      • Jimmy Wilson

        Get the hell off this site.

      • Guest

        I’m tired of buying games for xbox and playstation when I can just download them for free on PC with better graphics, performance and much better online, plus all the other thousands of things you can do on PC.

        • cusman

          I think that is a valid option for many gamers that are comfortable with the PC as their gaming platform of choice.

        • HarakiriKami

          cheaper game as well.

      • FatMasterBass

        How old are you, 12?

      • Day_is_Over

        My PS3 died my XBOX 360 died twice. My Wii is still alive. Seems to me like the BUST consoles belong to the other two companies.

      • Angelo

        But then, who would want a PS4 / XBO, consoles that really only get nothing. NOTHING. Nintendo and their partners (like Platinum Games) are the only developers still able to make quality games. Every other company is either making dumb shooters or “a movie plus having to press some buttons” (ie. Assassin’s Creed). Only very rarely do we see anything else of interest, and it’s almost always available for PC.

  • Adrian Brown

    Bayonetta 2 would not exist without Nintendo. How is that hard to understand?

    • dilc11

      It’s more about MS/PS fanboys trying to “make a point”, because of the sales of Bayo 2 in Japan. Now they say: “see? It didn’t sell because it is on Wii U, now Bayonetta is dead”, although it was almost dead before Nintendo decided to fund the sequel.

      • To be honest, Japan is more focused on the portable scene and I don’t think the demand was ever that high for Bayonetta, it seems like the West likes it more honestly.

        • HarakiriKami

          the first game bombed in the west though

          • It still gathered a cult following and Nintendo has done almost everything in their power to make us aware of this game and to want to own it.

      • Guest

        Besides, the sales numbers they use to make their point were just 2 days of sales, not a whole week, and you know what’s pretty sad ? there’s a website dedicated to boycotting Bayonetta 2 that makes up stuff like that Nintendo stole the game, I don’t remember the name of the site but it was pretty bland and simple, like it was made by a twelvie, which I honestly don’t doubt considering the intellectual prowess he shows in his posts, it’s the most pathetic act of fanboyish whining I’ve seen in gaming… and it appears the kid is proud because apparently his site was featured in Kotaku… you know, the absolute worst ”gaming news” site on the web… the one with patricia hernandez… the one that was insulted by Hideki Kamiya himself for twisting his twitter comments and basically made a headline about him being clueless about Valve, Steam and PC gaming in general…

      • mamabicho

        all good baby, it will sell in america. got two copies pre ordered already

      • Guest

        I’ve never seen an Xbot beg for this game, they don’t have much in Japan, but countless of $0N¥ paupers yes, because they can’t afford anything else

        • demfax

          That thing uses the disqus names Death Dealer and Lionheart. It has been plaguing disqus for years. As you can see, it isn’t above using outright murder and tragedy to fuel its deranged hatred of pieces of plastic and anyone who likes PS.

          Ironically it lives in the Netherlands. So far it hasn’t reconciled its deranged cognitive dissonance in the Netherlands being treated like Tier 2 Trash by MS, yet constantly screaming lies and blind hatred about Sony.

          It also constantly spams Netherlands Dutch message boards with the same deranged fanboy lies and hatred. It is sick, evil, demented, and needs to be removed from the internet.

          Stop spreading fanboy lies, hatred, and FUD, it accomplishes nothing. It’s not healthy to hate pieces of plastic and people who like playing video games on them. It’s sad that you hate good video games for being on the wrong piece of plastic

          PS4 has many great games that gamers love. That’s why it’s 11+ million in sales and growing. Sony’s large number of well funded 1st parties will ensure PS4 has a ton of great AAA exclusives, as many or more than PS3.

          1st/2nd party studios include Japan Studio, Polyphony Digital, Naughty Dog, SCE Bend, SCE San Diego, SCE Santa Monica, Sucker Punch, Pixel Opus, Evolution Studios, Guerrilla Games, Guerrilla Cambridge, SCE London, Media Molecule, Ready at Dawn, Quantic Dream, etc. Sony’s 1st party studios are working on several unannounced AAA PS4 games. Expect big announcements in 2015.

          According to listwar PS4 has 123 games right now. PS4/Sony exclusives 2015: The Order: 1886, Bloodborne, Ratchet & Clank Redux, Uncharted 4, Tearaway Unfolded, Until Dawn, Persona 5, more.

          PS4 has many features including media with more on the way in firmware 2.0. PS4 has plenty of support from Sony and developers.

          PSN is hugely improved and Sony is continually investing more into it. PSN handled the Destiny launch just fine.

          Both Forza and Driveclub are good racing games, it’s only fanboys blindly hating one or the other.

          PS4 could easily handle Forza Horizon 2 and upgrade the graphics due to PS4’s more powerful hardware. Driveclub would have to be downgraded to run on Xbox.

          There will be no parity if PS4’s stronger hardware is being pushed. In essentially every way, the PS4’s hardware is more powerful than the XBO’s. If they’re the same resolution, PS4 will have a framerate or visual effects advantage, or its stronger hardware isn’t being pushed.

          Factual PS4 Hardware Advantages: +6 CUs, +540 GFlops (40% greater) or more (1.3TF to 1.84TF), +16 ROPs, +6 ACEs/CQs, better GPGPU support (volatile bit and onion+ gpu cache bypass bus), better performing CPU, faster unified memory, and less OS overhead.

          No amount of API updates is going to make up for that hardware gap.

          Exclusively 1080p 60 FPS console games on PS4: MGS V, CoD Ghosts, FFXIV, Tomb Raider, MLB The Show 14, Resogun, Trials Fusion, Diablo 3 (higher framerate), Project Cars, Metro Redux, TLOU Remastered, more.

          Sony’s ICE team, Naughty Dog, and Santa Monica Studios will fully utilize PS4’s stronger hardware, so it will stay ahead in graphics performance.

          Driveclub, The Order, Uncharted 4, etc. are technically superior as they run on more powerful hardware. Normal, unbiased, sane people recognize PS4 exclusive games look better, which makes sense given they’re running on more powerful hardware.

          PS4 is selling on price/performance, better PR and global appeal, long term 1st party support, large number of 1st party studios, more total games and dev support including Japanese and indie devs, wider variety of games, improved PSN since the PS3 days, and PS+ value. It’s seen as the best console for multiplatform games.

          All 3 consoles have good exclusive games, and pros and cons, it’s only fanboys blindly hating one or the other.

          As expected by anyone knowledgeable and sane, tier 2 launches are doing almost nothing for Xbox sales. It’s sad this is the result after 10+ months of “wait for Xbox to launch in more countries” from fanboys. Some big plates of crow are ready to be served.

          PS4 and Xbox sales can be compared right now and PS4 is outselling Xbox more than 2:1. PS4 will outsell Xbox in China like every other country on the planet, and Xbox sales in China will do little. PS4 is keeping its 1st place in global sales.

          Sony is making a profit on PS4 hardware, the gaming division is well funded, profitable and in an overall net profit. Sony is not broke or going bankrupt.

          Sony has been good about honesty with the PS4 for the most part. They have much better PR this gen than PS3, that’s one reason it’s selling so well. No lies were made selling Destiny, it’s a good game that is selling well.

          • Oliver King

            You should copy and paste your idiocy more often, it’s funniest thing I have read in a while.

          • demfax

            Another malicious, blind shill replying to facts, reality, and reasonable arguments by flinging feces and screaming.

        • demfax

          Asking for games on other platforms is not exclusive to Playstation owners. You lie.

          Money is not the reason people are choosing not to buy an Xbox. You are lying, sick, and evil.

      • HarakiriKami

        then they should blame sega

    • J.S.

      For those of us not willing to buy a Wii U for one game, it might as well not exist.

      • Adrian Brown

        It still will exist. If you don’t wanna play it that’s your problem.

        • J.S.

          Thank you moderator for editing my comment behind my back. I can see what kind of logic this site traffics in.

  • Filipe Santos

    AWESOME!!!! Hideki Kamiya RULES!!!

  • Andrew Gonzalez

    I just want this game already.

    • ben

      It is worth it. Awesome game. Love every time i play it.

  • ben

    Poor guy. He is being logical with the terminally stupid.

  • Heavensmile

    Good. Kamiya really ought to try ignoring the trolls a little better though. Obviously most 14yo ‘edgy’ teens aren’t aware of RE2 or Viewtiful Joe.

    • HarakiriKami

      No he takes it on himself to reply to everyone

  • Melatelo

    Kayima’s twitter is actually amazing. His responses are perfect. Very few game devs would have the guts to speak their mind/be so up-front..

  • bradley

    I love this guy

  • ineedgames

    Sony fanboys always port beg, shows that they are not happy with PS4 games.
    I never see Nintendo or Xbox fans port beg, just PS and PC fanboys.

    • Guest

      Correct, but PC gamers mostly beg for GOOD ports, instead of the bugged rushed ones they get. They don’t usually beg for games that another platforms gets because they already have VASTLY more games than pauperstation. The $0N¥ paupers are beggars because they can’t afford anything else.

      • RyuNoHadouken

        Spoken like a true Xbot

      • demfax

        That thing uses the disqus names Death Dealer and Lionheart. It has been plaguing disqus for years. As you can see, it isn’t above using outright murder and tragedy to fuel its deranged hatred of pieces of plastic and anyone who likes PS.

        Ironically it lives in the Netherlands. So far it hasn’t reconciled its deranged cognitive dissonance in the Netherlands being treated like Tier 2 Trash by MS, yet constantly screaming lies and blind hatred about Sony.

        It also constantly spams Netherlands Dutch message boards with the same deranged fanboy lies and hatred. It is sick, evil, demented, and needs to be removed from the internet.

        Stop spreading fanboy lies, hatred, and FUD, it accomplishes nothing. It’s not healthy to hate pieces of plastic and people who like playing video games on them. It’s sad that you hate good video games for being on the wrong piece of plastic

        PS4 has many great games that gamers love. That’s why it’s 11+ million in sales and growing. Sony’s large number of well funded 1st parties will ensure PS4 has a ton of great AAA exclusives, as many or more than PS3.

        1st/2nd party studios include Japan Studio, Polyphony Digital, Naughty Dog, SCE Bend, SCE San Diego, SCE Santa Monica, Sucker Punch, Pixel Opus, Evolution Studios, Guerrilla Games, Guerrilla Cambridge, SCE London, Media Molecule, Ready at Dawn, Quantic Dream, etc. Sony’s 1st party studios are working on several unannounced AAA PS4 games. Expect big announcements in 2015.

        According to listwar PS4 has 123 games right now. PS4/Sony exclusives 2015: The Order: 1886, Bloodborne, Ratchet & Clank Redux, Uncharted 4, Tearaway Unfolded, Until Dawn, Persona 5, more.

        PS4 has many features including media with more on the way in firmware 2.0. PS4 has plenty of support from Sony and developers.

        PSN is hugely improved and Sony is continually investing more into it. PSN handled the Destiny launch just fine.

        Both Forza and Driveclub are good racing games, it’s only fanboys blindly hating one or the other.

        PS4 could easily handle Forza Horizon 2 and upgrade the graphics due to PS4’s more powerful hardware. Driveclub would have to be downgraded to run on Xbox.

        There will be no parity if PS4’s stronger hardware is being pushed. In essentially every way, the PS4’s hardware is more powerful than the XBO’s. If they’re the same resolution, PS4 will have a framerate or visual effects advantage, or its stronger hardware isn’t being pushed.

        Factual PS4 Hardware Advantages: +6 CUs, +540 GFlops (40% greater) or more (1.3TF to 1.84TF), +16 ROPs, +6 ACEs/CQs, better GPGPU support (volatile bit and onion+ gpu cache bypass bus), better performing CPU, faster unified memory, and less OS overhead.

        No amount of API updates is going to make up for that hardware gap.

        Exclusively 1080p 60 FPS console games on PS4: MGS V, CoD Ghosts, FFXIV, Tomb Raider, MLB The Show 14, Resogun, Trials Fusion, Diablo 3 (higher framerate), Project Cars, Metro Redux, TLOU Remastered, more.

        Sony’s ICE team, Naughty Dog, and Santa Monica Studios will fully utilize PS4’s stronger hardware, so it will stay ahead in graphics performance.

        Driveclub, The Order, Uncharted 4, etc. are technically superior as they run on more powerful hardware. Normal, unbiased, sane people recognize PS4 exclusive games look better, which makes sense given they’re running on more powerful hardware.

        PS4 is selling on price/performance, better PR and global appeal, long term 1st party support, large number of 1st party studios, more total games and dev support including Japanese and indie devs, wider variety of games, improved PSN since the PS3 days, and PS+ value. It’s seen as the best console for multiplatform games.

        All 3 consoles have good exclusive games, and pros and cons, it’s only fanboys blindly hating one or the other.

        As expected by anyone knowledgeable and sane, tier 2 launches are doing almost nothing for Xbox sales. It’s sad this is the result after 10+ months of “wait for Xbox to launch in more countries” from fanboys. Some big plates of crow are ready to be served.

        PS4 and Xbox sales can be compared right now and PS4 is outselling Xbox more than 2:1. PS4 will outsell Xbox in China like every other country on the planet, and Xbox sales in China will do little. PS4 is keeping its 1st place in global sales.

        Sony is making a profit on PS4 hardware, the gaming division is well funded, profitable and in an overall net profit. Sony is not broke or going bankrupt.

        Sony has been good about honesty with the PS4 for the most part. They have much better PR this gen than PS3, that’s one reason it’s selling so well. No lies were made selling Destiny, it’s a good game that is selling well.

    • HarakiriKami

      They’ve been port begging ever since the PS2 lol

      • demfax

        Asking for games on other platforms is not exclusive to Playstation owners. You lie. Stop spreading fanboy lies, hatred, and FUD, it accomplishes nothing.

        • HarakiriKami

          It may not be exclusive, but you lot do it the most.

          In the most insufferable manner. Y’all have some kind of entitlement complex.

    • demfax

      You lie. Stop spreading fanboy lies, hatred, and FUD, it accomplishes nothing. It’s not healthy to hate pieces of plastic and people who like playing video games on them. It’s sad that you hate good video games for being on the wrong piece of plastic.

      Sony is raising prices in response to MARKET CONDITIONS. That thing is just more delusional, ignorant, evil microsoft fanboy shill waste spreading lies, nonsense, and blind hatred. They are a sick pestilence on disqus.

      Microsoft shills are far more likely to be constantly wrong or delusional and out of touch with reality. There is no PS equivalent to misterxmedia’s cult or dsogaming.

      Claiming Xbox is secretly more powerful than PS4, claiming Xbox is outselling PS4 or will soon start outselling it, claiming Sony is broke or bankrupt, accusing Sony of lying when they didn’t, accusing Sony of saying things they didn’t, lying about non-existent downgrades in games like Infamous, lying about PS4 having no games or only indie games, lying that PS4 is only selling “on hype”, lies about PSN, or delusional conspiracy theories in general.

      There are dozens of microsoft fanboys constantly invading articles to spread utter lies and blind hatred, and pretty much nobody doing the same for any other console (PS, Wii, whatever). Even PC fanboys don’t do it that much. And then there’s misterxmedia, the most delusional, crazy, and lying fanboy on the planet. ms fanboys are incomparable in terms of utter lies and blind, deranged hatred.

      • HarakiriKami

        Asking for multiplatform games to be Playstation exclusive certainly is.

        Devil May Cry, Tales of, Final Fantasy, Metal Gear, Resident Evil, hell I cant even begin to remember all of the whining and begging I’ve payed witness to these past 8 years..

        All of those meltdowns over this tripe that happened last gen put me off these ‘faux-superiore’ playstation “fans” compensating for what ever deep-seeded inferiority complex that’s running their veins.

  • Rukiafan Rukiachan
  • Seeing Kamiya rage on twitter, while humorous, I can’t help but feel a but bad for him since people just don’t understand the circumstances which led to Bayo 2 being exclusive to nintendo.

  • Jarbloko

    good. but im not interested on bayoneta 2 anyway.

    • HarakiriKami

      Too bad. You’re missing some real joy in your life

    • Guest

      best action hack n’ slash game ever

  • Jpro Walkom

    Well if Microsoft or Sony stepped up then it would be on their systems but they didn’t take the risk therefore you suffer.

    It’s on Nintendo. Deal With It! And the scores and it’s only been released in Japan so far, and it came out a week after Smash 3DS right. So if course it’s going to get overshadowed.

  • this is very simulair to say demon souls, heavenly sword and the upcomming bloodborne, third party developers and sony/ms or nintendo publishing, they decide.

    The only game I ever saw on a different console published by a first party was Mass Effect as Microsoft owned those rights but it was released on the PS3 (altough much later).

    • sonicfan1373

      Indeed, sadly most third-party publishers, especially in Japan, do not want take risks anymore. Games have become so expensive and complex that it is becoming increasingly difficult for anyone other than first-parties to take the financial risk (and first-parties do it because they need titles to differentiate themselves and ultimately sell their platform).

  • King9999

    That last tweet…brilliant.

  • Jon Turner

    Kamiya has the RIGHT idea to tell these jokers off. Why can’t they get it through their heads that this game wouldn’t practically EXIST without Nintendo funding it? Considering that Nintendo develops games only for its systems, the possibilities of it being ported to PS4/XB1 is absolutely zero. Neither Sony nor Microsoft wanted it on their systems.

    • J.S.

      And the Wii U is a garbage system that most gamers don’t want. This game wouldn’t exist, but it might as well not since we don’t want to buy a Wii U.

  • Javier Herrera

    if you want 3rd party games that are the same as the last 50 installments that come in every 6-12 months like assassins cread or cod then get the so called real gaming systems. if you want good quality games that are well crafted and is a masterpiece in its own right then go for a nintendo console

  • Jaffermach

    Interesting story of how games can jump companies. I guess that’s how the business goes. Didn’t happen though to some of my favorite racing games.

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  • J.S.

    This isn’t hard at all, Kamiya. You put it on the Wii U. The Wii U is a bad system and no one wants to pay $360 US for your game no matter how awesome it is. We’re also well aware that Nintendo covets IPs like Ebeneizer Scrooge coveted his wealth and we knew that the minute their name was mentioned that those of us unwilling to spill the cash for their crappy system would never get to play Bayonetta 2. Because Shiggy and Co. would nuke the entire planet before allowing a port of an IP they own.

    I honestly cannot fathom how you fail to understand why some of us are unhappy about this. $360 US for a Bayonetta 2 and a re-release of Bayonetta 1 and you’re throwing in a giant paperweight with the purchase. Not hard to figure out at all.

    • ultibman5000

      He wanted to make the game. What, Bayonetta “fans” don’t want to see the game’s creator continue his own franchise? The gaming community of today is full of heartless, unreasonable “gamers” like you. A complete and utter joke.

      • J.S.

        I’m heartless and unreasonable for not wanting to spend $360 on a game? God I hate fanboy logic.

        • ultibman5000

          No, you’re heartless and unreasonable for not wanting an excellent game developer to continue a franchise he loves. As if you’d rather his dreams crushed and not release the game at all. This disgusting gaming community is full of selfish people like you who forget that both playing and making games is supposed to be about fun first, not the money.

        • ultibman5000

          No, you’re heartless and unreasonable for not wanting an excellent game developer to continue a franchise he loves. As if you’d rather his dreams crushed and not release the game at all. This disgusting gaming community is full of selfish people like you who forget that both playing and making games is supposed to be about fun first, not the money.

          • J.S.

            Clearly you’ve missed my point entirely.


Related Game Info

Bayonetta 2 box art

Platform: WII U
Genre: ACTION
Publisher: Nintendo
Developer: Platinum
Release date: October 24, 2014
OWN IT: 14 [I own this game]
BEAT IT: 10 [I beat this game]
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