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Kimishima on the thinking behind having Fire Emblem and Animal Crossing on mobile

Posted on April 27, 2016 by (@NE_Brian) in Mobile, News

Later this year, two core Nintendo franchises will be appearing on mobile: Fire Emblem and Animal Crossing. President Tatsumi Kimishima discussed the thinking behind having the two IPs on the likes of smartphones during an earnings conference earlier today.

He said:

“These two smartphone games will appeal to different user demographics. We chose two different genres to appeal to as many Nintendo fans as possible.”

Fire Emblem and Animal Crossing mobile apps will launch this fall. With the latter, Nintendo said it will be designed “so that it will be connected with the world of Animal Crossing for dedicated gaming systems.”

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  • CheslavTheBear

    “…it will be designed ‘so that it will be connected with the world of Animal Crossing for dedicated gaming systems.'”

    Animal Crossing NX… probably happening sooner than we thought.

    • NintendoPSXTheSecond

      More like 3DS. It says dedicated gaming systems, which 3DS falls under.

      • Yolkghost

        I think both are possible, but NX making more likely since they’d probably have to go back and mess around with New Leaf / HHD to connect it with phone stuff.

      • CheslavTheBear

        It could be for either of them, then.

    • TheJuiciest

      Well they pretty much skipped the Wii U, so I wouldn’t be surprised if it came within the first year.

    • Yolkghost

      I think there’s no denying Animal Crossing NX is a first/second year game. Emily Rogers claims they’ve shifted some Wii U games to NX, and thanks to the Wii U there’s so many HD assets to use.

  • Exy

    I’m guessing the Animal Crossing one will be some kind of spin-off, so it’ll have to focus on a single thing like interior design. I just can’t imagine anything resembling the core experience of walking around the town and interacting with things at a fine level with mobile controls.

  • SecretX

    They better come to 3ds or NX.

    • ronin4life

      Once the FE title is revealed as a FE:Cipher ‘port’ or Fate:go/Kancolle like game and the Animal Crossing title a dumbed-down version of HHD or glorified Miitomo alike, you probably won’t care what system they are on anymore.

      • Prevot

        I hope it turns out like that. I was hoping for the FE series to finally return to console next and having the next real FE game be on mobile would be the absolute worst.
        Maybe one day we’ll get a Fire Emblem game that looks as good as the cel-shaded CG cutscenes.

        • Yolkghost

          I really don’t think they’ll give mobile actual FE titles. But if they do, i’m sure they’d be able to do cel-shaded cutscenes on it :p

      • NintendoPSXTheSecond

        Man, I really want Wizards to make a publishing deal to get Cipher over here. I’d totally buy the packs! They’re so pretty! I’ve bought 2 decks from Japan already.

  • Kallumsmarties

    This is like the only good news today lol. I am well up for these 2 having their own smartphone game.

  • Operative

    Being able to use your phone to go to the island and catch stuff, play mini games, and gather bells that you can transfer to the main game would be pretty cool

  • Joachim

    Candy Crush Animal Saga
    Fire Emblem Record Keeper

  • ♪Soy ♪Sauce

    i told you guys fire emblem would be a great smart phone game.. jeez you guy are dumb

  • Vigilante_blade

    Please, please, don’t make me use my smartphone to get in-game content.

    • Radish

      Time to get with the times.

      • Vigilante_blade

        You mean pay inferior games to play better games?

        • Radish

          No, I mean time to turn on an app on your phone and get a free in-game bonus.

          • Vigilante_blade

            E.g. do something boring to get to the fun part?

          • Radish

            I don’t see how it’s much different from turning on the game to play said game.

          • Vigilante_blade

            You have to use a gyro and a touch screen, no buttons and play a game on an inferior gaming device… I’m pretty much you’re trolling now.

          • Radish

            Phones are practically at PS3/360 level now.

          • Vigilante_blade

            But lack buttons. Debate won.

          • ForeVision

            Also technology, also battery life and many other limitations… Yes chips are getting smaller, but a phone is a phone, it’s not a dedicated gaming device, we have Handhelds, Consoles and PC’s for that, we don’t need the thing we use for internet on the go, a bit of youtube here and there and CALLING PEOPLE (phone y’know what it was invented for) to pull away development time for awesome games for console.

          • TalesOfBS

            I like the idea of using phones to get extra content as long as it is something actually nice to use/play instead of just a forced gimmick.

          • Radish

            Not far off from that either. You’re afraid of the future.

          • Vigilante_blade

            Afraid “for” the future perhaps. New =/= better.

          • Radish

            If you want Nintendo to only target your diminishing demographic, the company will continue to fail in the console business. Nintendo wants to sell more than 10 million units.

          • Vigilante_blade

            By that logic *cough* Wii U *cough*, it also means it must stop catering only to your diminishing demographic. In fact, my demographic is only increasing since motion controls became very niche.

          • Radish

            Motion controls became niche? Have you seen the Dualshock 4 controller? And guess what, kids aren’t on traditional consoles today. They are on tablets and phones.

          • Vigilante_blade

            You realize that the PS4 has VERY FEW games that actually force motion controls?

            And yes, as far as consoles go, motions are a niche. We are talking about gaming systems here, not phones.

          • Radish

            Regardless of whether games take advantage of the PS4’s motion controls, they are here to stay. Otherwise they wouldn’t have bothered including the feature when they designed the controller.

          • pcenginekid

            The company would still continue to fail. If they make mobile and gimmick trash, the general public will eat it up at first then move on to the next trend, just like the Wii.

          • Radish

            Continue to fail? Nintendo hasn’t failed. And your attitude toward mobile is completely outdated, grandpa.

          • Vigilante_blade

            Nah, he is just looking at the past to make an informed assessement. Those who refuse to look at the past are bound to repeat its mistakes. An eye towards the future is great and all, but it must be informed with the knowledge of past times. Miitomo already is losing a lot of momentum. Mobile is where fads accumulate. It is an ever-changing environment with little predictability.

          • Radish

            Miitomo already has as many users as the Wii U and it’s only been a month, and they haven’t even updated it yet with new features. Nintendo is absolutely right to enter the mobile market, they’ve been stubborn and ignoring it for too long. You have to go where the market is, not expect everyone to come to you all the time. Your way of thinking is completely outdated and you’d drive Nintendo further into irrelevancy if you were steering the ship.

          • pcenginekid

            You’re saying that miitomo has as many users as Wii U as if it’s impressive. No sh*t it has more users, it’s a free to play mobile game. Miitomo has already peaked, no one gives a crap about it anymore. The general public is fickle. If anything, this is just a short-term plan to make easy money. Kimishima and reggie are getting old, they want enough to retire comfortably.

          • Radish

            Yeah and the funny thing is this one little smartphone app is going to make them far more money this year than the Wii U will. No one gives a crap about it anymore? It’s a social network that has 10 million users and growing.
            “just a short-term plan to make easy money.” Lol if you think this is just a 1 year thing for Nintendo you couldn’t be more wrong. Nintendo is a business, and they are going to be making money on smartphones for the long term. Easy money is what they need. You’re thinking is so old and outdated.

          • ForeVision

            Plus it’s a hotbed of “whale” milking and restricting the players to squeeze as much money out of them as possible. These sorts of practices do not encourage good game development, no matter what is said in response.

            If Nintendo uses these games as they said they would, as apps to get people familiar with their franchises and have them want the real thing, then there’s no harm in it, as long as it does not take development time from games for their dedicated gaming systems.

            This comment from a Nintendo investor highlights how ugly it will get when they go wrong:, ‘Just think of paying 99 cents just to get Mario to jump a little higher.’

          • ForeVision

            About the entirety of the reason why Nintendo is even in the mobile business is because of one thing: Japan. In fact in the West mobile isn’t close to as big, because people over here aren’t like Japan’s gamers, the type that buy a whole console for that one awesome game, or as oriented to always want to play on the go.

            If people want to play their games while going places all power to them. But don’t force away the people that enjoy their lengthy RPGs or their enjoyable multiplayer shooter on a PC or console. The future moving on doesn’t mean mobile should force everyone else out “because it’s the future” that’s ignorance in it’s purest form, and yes Nintendo has failed on various fronts.

            Want proof of this? Kimishima blurs out all kinds of things about wanting more games like Splatoon and Super Mario Maker for the Wii-U, but seriously dials back sales expectation, announces the release date of the NX and has everyone believe the Wii-U is dead and buried. Is that how you’re going to sell those games you’ve been blabbering about? no.

          • Radish

            First off, no one is forcing you to go mobile. All they are doing is giving people who do extra perks and incentive to buy the console product. You can completely ignore and go on playing your lengthy RPG or whatever without getting anything extra. The bottom line though is money. A game like Xenoblade Chronicles X costs a ton to make and gets very little in return for them. Miitomo/other mobile apps cost very little make and have much larger returns. Nintendo is a business whether you like it or not.

            And I don’t know about you, but I don’t wait to hear what Kimishima has to say before I decide to go out and buy a game. Most people don’t need to know the inner workings of Nintendo to purchase a game or system. Another fact is the Wii U is dead, you just have to accept it. They are sacrificing the present for the future here, and it’s the obvious choice. More people are interested in NX than Wii U.

          • ForeVision

            Perhaps, but have you considered how the people feel that own a Wii-U? I feel for those people, who hoped for continued support, only to get shot in the face.

            And yes they are sacrificing the present for the future, but why would Kimishima even bother talking about more games like Splatoon and Mario Maker when they’re going to kill the Wii-U off asap? Unless Nintendo enjoys trolling their customers and fanbase nowadays….

            And no I’m not waiting for anyone to do any announcements to buy a game I like, however I am a person who appreciates and values honesty, especially from someone like Kimishima. So hearing him do the opposite of what he’s saying rubs me the wrong way, as i imagine it would anyone with ethics and standards.

          • Radish

            First off going third party would actually hurt their profits, not increase them. Nintendo makes a ton of money from software on their own hardware. Not only that but they have room to take risks and they set their own standards and deadlines. If they had to release games on Sony, Microsoft, or PC we’d only get Mario, Zelda, and Pokemon. They would have to deal with licensing costs, higher development costs, meet arbitrary deadlines, etc.

            Second, most Wii U owners are Nintendo fans and buy Nintendo games. So despite no third party support other than indies, they have had enough strong software titles to justify the purchase of the Wii U. Those games aren’t going away just because no more games are being made for Wii U. If you could only enjoy a game the moment it is released then I feel sorry for you.

            As soon as NX is released with Zelda and more, people will forget the Wii U instantly and be excited for NX. They’ll forget they ever felt shot in the face. Nintendo isn’t going to settle for a 10 million install base, they have to move on.

          • ForeVision

            I’m sorry but that is very naive to just forget what happened to you like that. It’s the reason companies get away with such practices, if they never suffer any consequences they’ll just keep going. Agreed that they recognized they made a mistake, but is the NX owing up to that mistake and fixing it? because the people who bought the Wii-U have been unmistakably wronged by the cut of support.

            And do tell what a Nintendo Fan is, what is a fan these days, someone who excuses everything they do wrong and are unquestioningly loyal to them? I’ve owned the first Gameboy up to the new 3DS XL, and started with the SNES up to the Wii-U but with what has been going on, and because of what happened (Fire Emblem: Fates incident) Nintendo has lost a serious amount of my trust and goodwill, and I’m pretty sure I’m not alone in this.

            As has been said so many times before, and will be said until time itself will cease to exist, all people want from Nintendo is for them to make good games again. No need for gimmicks, or special tricks, just stay true to the core and innovate when required.

          • Radish

            So let me ask you, as a Nintendo fan: Given the failure of the Wii U, and the early release of NX, will you buy an NX at some point within the next 2 years? Or will you refuse to buy the NX and stick with Zelda Wii U while everyone else is enjoying NX? The fact is Nintendo can count on the people who love their games to buy their consoles, they need to focus on the people who AREN’T us.

          • Vigilante_blade

            “Given the failure of the Wii U”

            “Continue to fail? Nintendo hasn’t failed. And your attitude toward mobile is completely outdated, grandpa.”

            Huh…

            The thing is, I sincerely hope the NX will be great, and I know what they are doing is building up to the NX, but this presents a much bigger problem. That means that they still haven’t fixed the issue which would cause Nintendo to have massive software droughts. Nintendo needs to expand, get bigger, or get third parties.

          • Radish

            Nintendo hasn’t failed. The Wii U as a product has failed. I hope you understand the difference between a 127 year old company and a 3.5 year old product made by the company.

            Would you rather they released the NX in November with only a couple games followed by a drought, a couple more, etc. or would you rather they release in March with games ready to go and more to come with less droughts? This isn’t rocket science.

          • Vigilante_blade

            Nintendo has failed at this point in time. We’re playing with words here, which is not really productive.

            As I,ve said, the biggest problem is that it shows that they cannot ramp up production without major sacrifices, which is worrisome.

          • Radish

            That’s like saying Nintendo is a success because of Miitomo. They haven’t failed as a company because of Wii U and they haven’t succeeded as a company because of Miitomo, they aren’t giving up on NX. If they were then you could say they ultimately failed in the console business.

            This news is just the opposite, they are focusing more on their future console than their present console. They don’t possess a magic wand where they can make a bunch of hit Wii U exclusives before NX, nor do they want to. This is a CHOICE by Nintendo to make NX a more worthy purchase. They don’t want people wondering whether they should buy a Wii U or an NX when the answer should be clear as day.

          • ForeVision

            Well then here’s a little question i have for you: How is Fire Emblem coming to mobile going to help the future of the franchise (and Nintendo in general) in case it IS NOT simply a introductory app meant to bring people awareness of the franchise and get them to buy the main series?

          • Radish

            Aside from exposing more people to their IP, making it more relevant, and earning more money from it in the meantime?

          • ForeVision

            What i meant was what if the games were like the majority of apps and games on mobile: A cash grab meant to deprive whales of their money, lined with limitations and restrictions. It’d give people who never heard of Fire Emblem before a very wrong impression.

          • Radish

            So it’s all a big “what if” for you. So far I can use and enjoy Miitomo without having to pay a cent. There’s no reason to think a Fire Emblem mobile game isn’t going to find a way to be enjoyable for people who won’t spend a dime. But more importantly, the idea is to make Fire Emblem an IP that grabs people’s attention and cause them to consider buying a lengthier game. Nintendo isn’t going to compete with themselves, but they also aren’t going to miss out on the mobile market $.

          • ForeVision

            There’s nothing that proves Nintendo will make the Fire Emblem game a fantastic success either. I simply worry that they might make it a cash grab, which would severely damage the franchise.

          • Radish

            Well if you are worried about Fire Emblem becoming a cash grab, they’ve already done that in a way. Selling 3 versions of the same game has cash grab written all over it. And that seems to have only made the franchise stronger rather than damage it.

          • ForeVision

            I’ll give you that, the 3 versions thing was a cash grab. However that game also had good gameplay (albeit a butchered story and crap voice acting in some parts) and was worth playing.

          • Vigilante_blade

            True, but that does not make my point moot. Nintendo needs more resources focused on making games, not expend them on mobile crap when they can hardly make real games in decent quantity.

            Furthermore, that doesn’t remove the fact that Nintendo Wii U owners had their trust shaken in the Nintendo brand.

          • Radish

            Mobile games are not a big expense for Nintendo, especially now that they’ve partnered with DeNA to share the load. It’s not as if Nintendo’s development teams have shifted to mobile. It requires far less resources, as opposed to a console game development team. Their console game development teams have shifted their efforts to NX, that’s why you aren’t seeing many big Wii U titles this year.

            Again, so what? Wii U owners represent such a small minority of the gaming industry, Nintendo needs to focus on people who didn’t buy the Wii U, because chances are most Wii U owners will eventually get the NX.

          • pcenginekid

            Nintendo has failed. They’ve already gone third party (mobile) and will just continue to do so. You have to be naive to believe the Nx will succeed. The Nx will fail. No number of delayed marios and zeldas is going to save it. Nobody wants a nintendo console, especially after nintendo abandoned the Wii U.

            After the NX fails, they will be desperate and port all their games to mobile. Their old userbase gone, their brand continues to fade into irrelevance then candy crush trumps mario. Stock prices dwindle and nintendo folds.

          • Radish

            Yeah, Nintendo is abandoning a system that no one wanted so therefore people won’t buy NX when it has a new Zelda game. Great logic.
            Nintendo must be doing pretty well if even you are still talking about them.

          • pcenginekid

            Nintendo is doing so well they have 1 game ONE GAME to showcase at e3. That’s hilarious. You could write fininitely many jokes about that.

            It isn’t the 90s and early 2000s anymore. People have been constantly disappointed by zelda. This NEW zelda isn’t going to be different so it’s not going to be selling consoles.

          • Radish

            I didn’t know you were a prophet. Since you clearly were in on development, can you tell me the specifics of what the new Zelda game is like?

            And obviously they aren’t going to discuss other NX games before they even reveal what the NX is. If you think that’s the only game for NX you are going to be pleasantly surprised!

          • ForeVision

            I’ll buy the NX, as a form of trial by fire, to see if they can regain lost trust. And just for the record, i do not consider myself a Nintendo fan, I simply enjoy their IP a lot more than i enjoy things like Call of Duty or Battlefield.

          • Radish

            So you’ve just proved my point. Any displeasure Nintendo has caused Wii U owners means very little when you and other Wii U owners will buy the NX anyway. Nintendo needs the customers they’ve lost over the years and newcomers as well.

          • ForeVision

            When i and others buy the NX anyway, but who am I? do i represent thousands of others? Not by a long shot, and I’ll be closely watching the news before i even consider acting on my words.

            So where do you stand? because you come across to me as someone who just wants to see Nintendo shine and do well, but reality is a very different beast. There’s no room for wonderland in figures and numbers.

          • Radish

            It’s funny you say there’s no room for wonderland in figures and numbers when you seem to be on the side of wonderland. You’d rather they make more Wii U games for a dead console than focus on NX. Once the new Zelda game is out no one is going to be complaining that the Wii U isn’t getting any more games because they finally woke up and realized that NX is the better platform.

          • Vigilante_blade

            I think I’ll be much more careful about the NX. The Wii and Wii U have proven to be consoles I did not enjoy due to gimmicks. If it has a traditional controller, I will give it a shot. If not… I don’t think I’ll get it. At least, certainly not at full price.

          • ForeVision

            I definitely share your worry, but Nintendo has a lot to make up for. I’ll carefully monitor the news and keep my eyes open, but for now my plans are to give it a shot, however nothing is set in stone, and if things indicate that it’s going in the wrong direction it’ll be easy to cancel things like a pre-order by that time.

          • Vigilante_blade

            Yeah, I get ya.

          • TalesOfBS

            Case closed.

  • ZXXZ

    man, first Star Fox Gyro now this

    maybe Metroid and F-Zero being low prior and untouched franchises isn’t so bad after all.

    • Vigilante_blade

      Honestly, I would almost rather if they didn’t make a new Star Fox if it had to be like this.

      • TalesOfBS

        Bad controls and a gimmick ruined what could have been one of the best games this gen.

        • ForeVision

          That’s something that i never understood about Nintendo: Why force that gimmick on perfectly fine games that do what the fans want it to without said gimmick and would just be a risk with said gimmick? I mean the gamepad’s use for Xenoblade Chronicles X was fantastic, being able to fast-travel and link up your probes like that was great.

          But to force it on games that work just fine the way they do just to make sure it’s “new” is not the right way of doing things. Nintendo seems to be a little too deep into Iwata’s way of thinking, and yes it did get them out of a ditch, but there’s always a too far.

          Take a look at the Heroes of Might and Magic franchise, it barely changed much about the core gameplay if anything at all, but the fans love it that way, and will even hunt you down if you think about changing anything about it (granted they really should take a good chill because there’s so much untapped potential in that franchise) the only reason the last one failed the way it did is because it’s a buggy unpolished unfinished mess.

          • TalesOfBS

            Mainline Pokemon games also. Nintendo needs to understand that some things just work fine with little to no changes on their core.
            They should start saving their revolutionary ideas for new IPs, like Splatoon.

          • ForeVision

            I didn’t like the way Splatoon handled myself, but i can agree that it’s better to have the control scheme fit more with the title, rather than “This is the title, make sure it works with your gimmick”.