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Nintendo reveals Zelda: Breath of the Wild DLC – new story, hard mode, more

Posted on February 14, 2017 by (@NE_Brian) in News, Switch, Wii U

DLC is coming to The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild, Nintendo has revealed.

An Expansion Pass will be offered for the game at launch for $19.99 / £17.99 / €19.99. You’ll then receive three new treasure chests that can be found at the Great Plateau. One contains a shirt with a Switch logo that Link can wear, exclusive to the Expansion Pass. Nintendo says that “The other two will deliver useful items.”

Zelda: Breath of the Wild’s first DLC pack launches this summer. It’ll come with a Cave of Trials challenge, a new hard mode, and a new feature for the in-game map.

A second pack will follow this holiday. The DLC adds “new challenges that will let players enjoy a new dungeon and a new original story.”

According to Nintendo, the Expansion Pass will be available for both the Switch and Wii U versions of the game. Additionally, content packs cannot be purchased individually.

Explaining the decision to create DLC, Nintendo said:

“The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild for the Nintendo Switch and Wii U consoles is one of the largest, most engaging video games Nintendo has ever created. While the main game offers players an engrossing quest that will keep them entertained for hours, as well as the freedom to explore the vast Hyrule at their own pace, the game world provides a rich canvas that offers the opportunity for additional adventures. As a result, the first-ever downloadable content for the main-line Legend of Zelda series is in development.”

A message from series producer Eiji Aonuma about the DLC can be found below.

Source: Nintendo PR

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  • Felipe M.

    DLC? For Zelda? It’s not even out yet!

    I very much knew this day was coming but I was hoping Nintendo would take years to get to this point.

    Sigh.

    • The game is completed.

      • MusubiKazesaru

        It sounds like pretty good content too for a one time price. I can get why they want to make more use of this game and world. They also want to get people to keep playing it over time I suppose.

      • Felipe M.

        There is a DLC pack scheduled for March 3rd, so it’ll have day one DLC available.

        • Fernando Silva

          No, you can buy starting from March 3rd, get the t-shirt and treasure chests, the first real content comes in Summer and the second on the Holidays, so it is not a day one DLC.

        • NeoTheRabbit

          Summer & Holiday* DLC, available for pre order.

      • hotwifeVenus

        Agree: a completed game that is going for sure to sell, they are already developing dlc, I see nothing weird or bad in this.

        • It’s not a complete game.

          • Alessandro Previti

            It is. Finished, discs printed, boxed. The argument day one dlc is bad is blind.

            Day one dlc that was developed during development time and cuts core content is bad.

            Dlc developed after the game was completed or with side resources that enriches a good game full of content is not damaging the players.

            Bad games damage the players, not games; milking dlcs damage the players, not dlcs.

            I vividly disagree with this totalitarian view “day one dlc is bad”

          • When did I ever say to ou it was bad or not? That isn’t my point at all.
            My point is it’s not a complete experience with DLC content for the game but not in the game.

          • Alessandro Previti

            So you’re agains dlc in any form?
            Then you will have a difficult time with gaming, dlc are not going to disappear.
            I can understand that being gamers for long we got used to buy full games without added content. Also we were buying sequels that were litteraly dlcs.

            Doom 1 and 2 didn’t feature core differences, they were sold as new games and we bought them as new games.

            Mario Kart dlc was doubling the content, in the pre-dlc times it could have been sold as a new game, with some extra tweak, full price.

            Making a game like Zelda is expensive. Many players will be glad to buy further content.

            I suppose I understand your feelings, that owning something and saying “that’s it, in It’s final form” is a nice feeling; many like to feel anticipation for new content, to know the adventure will continue with an extra investment.

      • No, not really.
        When a game has DLC it is never completed without it.
        That excuse is laughable.

        • Do you know what “game goes gold” game

        • Velen (Not WoW)

          Do you even know what it means when a game goes “Gold”? Education time for you:

          Going “Gold” means it is the final production version of the game. Meaning the game is by definition finished, complete, and ready for production.

          Games having DLC do not automatically make them incomplete. DLC is like the extra content on a movie or blu-ray DVD like interviews or behind the scenes clips or documentaries, and just like that, it is there to enrich and enhance the original content.

          You don’t need that content to complete the movie just like you don’t need DLC to complete the game itself. It is optional.

          -if you can complete the game without the DLC, the game itself is complete. End of story.

          • Yes I do. It means a game is ready to be mass produced.

          • Velen (Not WoW)

            Then please disregard what I said and I’m sorry if you felt I was being condescending.

    • Masso

      The game has been completed for about 2 to 3 weeks, and maybe they just started working on the DL. Nintendo has always done DLC right, so there’s no reason to worry here.

      • Felipe M.

        They announced DLC ahead of the game’s actual release date.

        Everyone agrees that when Ubisoft, EA and Activision do it it’s terrible but if it’s Nintendo then it’s perfectly fine.

        • MusubiKazesaru

          As long as it’s content I want to purchase I have no issue with DLC. This isn’t the sort of case where content is being left out. This game is packed to the brim and the DLC is making the cup larger and filling it even more.

        • Masso

          The difference is that those companies announce the DLC MONTHS before the game is even completed, and season passes of those companies cost between 30 to even 50 USD, and most foten than not the DLC is not worth it. In this case, the game has been finished for a couple of weeks and releases in less than 3 weeks, and they are adding new content which they just started to work on. That’s obvious because of the release dates, unlike other games that have DLC 1 momth after release.

        • Justin McQuillen

          Everybody also agrees that when Nintendo does DLC, they do it right.

          • Alessandro Previti

            They proved the quality of their dlcs for a whole console generation.

        • Puffdaddy

          For example, the Season Pass for TitanFall only included skins and weapons for your characters and was $30 more than the original. I don’t know about you, but I would rather this than what EA does on a yearly basis.

      • It’s not complete when DLC is coming for it.

        • Alessandro Previti

          If the story is there and it feels like a full game, then it is complete. Movies have DVD release with extra content, still a movie feels good and complete at the cinema.

          A half baked game with or without dlc is not complete.
          A complete game with dlc is a complete game, with extras.

          • No. A complete game is a game with everything the game has to offer ready and available at once. DLC is is in no way excluded in that even if it’s “good” dlc.

    • Cody McKrell

      I think the difference, here, is that nintendo –so far– has shown that they go all out with dlc, providing plenty of meaningful, extra content per dollar. Whereas, a lot of other publishers have dlc thrown together and made exclusively to benefit from the launch of their game, the better one’s make offer it so people continue to play should they choose to.

      I’ll take this method before another delay and it’s an optional purchase, regardless, right? Nintendo’s proven that their dlc is at least worth the benefit of the doubt and their dipping their toe in the water now can only mean great things for games like mario odyssey, splatoon 2, kart deluxe and on and on.

  • LOLametro

    Not a fan of this.
    Revealing a 20$ DLC before launch, for a heavily delayed game, leaves a sour taste…

    • later in 2017. The game is already completed.
      CHILL

      • LOLametro

        The DLC itself is fine, but I think they shouldn’t have announced it before launch.
        Most of the content is coming in the holiday season, so this is acceptable.

        • Masso

          They announced it before launch because you can pre-buy it on launch day march 3rd. That’s it.

          • Felipe M.

            Nintendo should know that’s bad news within the gaming community. Pre-announcing DLC is something they should have avoided.

          • And how is that a good thing?

        • Ninty Kad

          Yeah that was the only problem, other than that it’s fine

      • No.

    • RmanX1000

      Before launch yeah but it’s just barely more than 2 weeks til launch. Don’t get me wrong, I really hate DLC that’s done wrong but this seems fine. At least for now. We’ll see lol

    • srods1

      I’m not hyped by “treasure chests” but it does include a “new original story” so if it’s a least close to The Witcher 3 DLCs I’m happy with it. TW3 DLCs were awesome in every sense. The game’s development is already finished. No reason to leave the team “idle” and besides, given such open world they made, it makes sense for a DLC to explore more the story and possible contents they could include.

    • hi v3.0

      I agree with this to an extent

  • KnightWonder

    I swear, Zelda fans are the most hypocritical fans I’ve ever seen.

    • Felipe M.

      Why is it okay for Nintendo to pre-announce DLC but when Ubisoft, EA and etc do it it’s completely chaotic?

      It’s a terrible practice and now even Nintendo is doing it too.

      • Bcardia

        Well, people always wanted Nintendo to go with the times :^).
        Nah, but I agree with you. Hiding difficulty modes behind a paywall is really scummy when you think about it.

        • Felipe M.

          Getting with the times shouldn’t be to include Hard Mode as DLC or getting to the point of pre-announcing DLC.

          I guess Mario Odissey will also have pre-announced DLC…

        • Velen (Not WoW)

          That I agree with. Difficulty modes should not be DLC.

          • NeoTheRabbit

            “New” Hard Mode. My guess is it will be something along the lines of the Master Quest. Dungeons reworked to increase difficulty beyond a normal hard mode and such. New placement for items, maybe a reworked AI system. What other reason would there be for them to release it in the summer? If it were simple, it could be released alongside the extra chests.

      • That because those companies announces DLC and Season Pass the day those games are revealed.

      • Puffdaddy

        When they announce MONTHS beforehand, that’s when there’s a problem. The game was just completed last week, you most likely they just began work on the dlc.

    • Justin McQuillen

      I wish you would explain what you mean, because Nintendo has proven themselves to handle DLC properly. Name one shady instance where Nintendo used DLC.

      • Exactly right. Nintendo has proven to deliver quality dlc at a good price. I think they have earned the benefit of the doubt.

  • chancetime

    Hard mode is locked behind DLC? Ugh :/

    • KnightWonder

      The game’s already challenging as it is.

      • chancetime

        Oh, you already finished the game before it even released? >.>

        • Lucas Bandeira Gobo

          Agreed.
          At the most it should’ve been a free update.
          Like Mario Kart 8 200cc.
          Nintendo has become more and more greedy and if you can’t see you’re dumb.

          • srods1

            They said “New hard mod”, not “The only hard mode ever and you gotta pay”. Let’s not jump into conclusions. Maybe it will tweak shrines, dungeons etc just like Master Quest did.

          • And how do you know it’s a bonus hard mode? And why would a bonus hard mode even be a good thing being sold to us?

            You don’t know anything.

          • srods1

            I do not and neither do you. None here know, we all speculate. I’m just more positive about content when they come from Nintendo. Also, If you don’t completely ignore the rest of my comment, you will see that I said “Let’s not jump into conclusions.” about it. Maybe it will be the only hard mode, maybe it won’t. We will know when we know.

          • Here’s the kicker. I’m not claiming it is or isn’t. Simply saying we don’t know, which is the truth.

          • Evan Gustavson

            I’m sorry, but have you seen the E3 demo?
            The boss of the Great Plateau, Stone Talus, can deal enough damage to OHKO you without upgrading Health.
            Not to mention the only way to reach his weakpoint is to climb up his body.
            You can’t dodge his attacks and wait for him to expose himself, you need to put yourself in a vulnerable position to damage him.
            Again, that’s the Great Plateau’s boss. You know, the Starting Area?

        • TheWeasel

          I think what they mean is that the consensus among those who have played it is that the game is challenging.

        • Ninty Kad

          The game already looks harder than most Zelda game. looks like the game will likely get a proper hard mode than a stupid “not as may hearts to find and enemies hit harder” mode.

      • Tlink7

        I find all Zelda games relatively easy, so I highly doubt it

        • Bcardia

          The GameInformer previewer said the most surprising thing is how hard the game is and that he died a lot. The fact that simple Lizalfos can inflict 6-heart damage really proves it.

          • Tlink7

            Hmm I really hope so, I long for a challenging Zelda game once more 😀

          • AJK

            I tried the Great Plains demo and died 9 times in my 1 hour demo, and I am a Zelda pro who got through Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword without dying once. BotW is tough…not Dark Souls tough, but it has really good enemy AI…For example, enemies will throw rock to try and knock you down when you are climbing, and will avoid bombs if you trow them at them. I even had a normal, plain Bokoblin pick up a barrel I trew at it, then threw it back at me knocking me back off a cliff!

          • Tlink7

            Thanks for the report mr AJK! I am glad to hear this Zelda is a bit tougher and that the AI isn’t totally stupid like in so many games. The Bokoblin threw it back at you? Awesome!

          • AJK

            Yep. The barrel missed the Bokoblin and it ran over, picked it up and hurled it at me. There was another incident where I was fighting a red Bokoblin and a blue one moved around to flank me and killed me from behind while I was whacking his red friend with an axe 🙂

      • Felipe M.

        That’s not really an excuse to defend Hard Mode as DLC.

      • And so what?

  • AJK

    More Zelda….and people are complaining?

    • The Forest Korok

      Seriously! I’m happy with all this stuff. This is like Christmas in March for me!

    • Tlink7

      You should have expected this, DLC announcement on/before launch is a very touchy subject

      • Felipe M.

        I’d bet that AJK would complain if Konami, EA, Activision or Ubisoft pre-announced DLC for an upcoming game.

        Nintendo fans are such hypocrites sometimes.

        • AJK

          The difference here is that the game is complete…this isn’t content that has been left out of the game. They haven’t made this DLC yet…we are not losing anything here, we are gaining. Would you have rather they delayed the game until christmas so they could add all this new content?

      • they should have shown the DLC after the game was out..

        • AJK

          I do agree with you there.

      • really why show us this dlc expansion when there is still much more of the Switch they have not shown or talked about… this seems kinda silly.. ummmm hiw about show us how will VC look like and how would it work? or the Switch UI (user interface)
        …they show us dlc of a game … that everyone who is already buying a switch will buy anyway. you do not need to sell us on the game you need to sell other people on why they should buy a Switch…

      • Bradley

        Ahhhh Tlink my hearts ripped in two on one hand the game ain’t even out yet, the timing makes me question a lot…..on the other hand catching zelda in a switch logo shirt XD

        • Tlink7

          Harden your resolve, mr Bradley! This game will be amazing and will get two additional amazing expansions!

          • Bradley

            Hope they are amazing cause I already feeling weird about the kart dlc, I know I will get the switch version.

          • Tlink7

            It was awesome, 16 extra tracks for like 15 euros and they were all great tracks save the Excite Bike stage 😀

          • Bradley

            sorry about that I meant that I hope the expansion dlc for zelda is amazing, I have the mario kart dlc on the wii u and felt weird about not really gaining that much since I have to pay full price again for switch……….
            Also I love the excite bike stage
            https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/53/c1/78/53c1786fb40bffd51558357b08c9ab8c.jpg

          • Tlink7

            I’m gonna wait until the Switch Mario Kart drops in price a bit. I see no need in immediately buying it, because I can still use my Wii U for onine 😀

    • Apfel

      Yes, because it means Nintendo is entering to this bad business practices. Season pass, DLC, having to pay for freakin’ hard mode (or hero mode). Yes, this is bad. It’s not the same as the MK8 dls, done after the game, adding new tracks, new characters, or the Splaton DLC…this is before launch…in a way that makes your wonder…couldn’t they just add this to the game itself? If nintendo is taking elements naturally included on the final release of a game, and announce this before launch…this is bad.
      Not the DLC. If this is added to a finished game…that’s ok..but paying for a hard mode, DLC before launch…this is really bad.

      • AJK

        But the dlc hasn’t even been made yet otherwise it would be available at launch. Adding this dlc to the game would have required a delay until winter. Plus we don’t even know what this ‘new’ hard mode is.

        The solution to all this is don’t pay for the season pass until we actually know what all the dlc is in detail.

        • Apfel

          well, you and I are in the dark. You say, since this game has gone gold, that DLC is now being developed. I say, since apparently nintendo is updating their business practices, that it might be possible that they chose months ago to remove something from the original game and sell it as DLC. Unless you (or I) work for Aonuma, no way to be certain. You choose to be optimistic, I’m being cautious. The mere fact they announce this DLC before launch is for me a bad move and raises some questions. I think both, optimistic and pessimistic are valid.

          • AJK

            I tend to operate on precedents rather than either optimism or pessimism. If the dlc was ready they would a)offer it day one because, you know money. And b)would have shown us an example of what the dlc is like they did with Splatoon, Smash, Mario Kart, Hyrule Warriors etc.

  • TheJuiciest

    Should I be holding off for the GOTY edition then? Jesus Nintendo.

    • Lucas Bandeira Gobo

      Yes, when Switch fails, on the Switch Sucessor.
      You only have to wait for 3 years at the most.
      [EDIT] You also get a 1080p 60 fps version, like they did with Mario Kart 8 😀

      • KnightWonder

        Obvious troll is obvious

        • Lucas Bandeira Gobo

          Just wait and see

          • KnightWonder

            Like you? …Wait a sec.

          • AJK

            Given how many people I personally know who are wanting the Switch, who didn’t own the WiiU (I know quite a few pc gamers who have never owned a console but want the Switch too), I will be very surprized if the Switch fails. Time will tell.

          • Lucas Bandeira Gobo

            Given the amount of AAA 3rd party games announced for it, I will be very suprised if Switch doesn’t fails.

          • AJK

            Lets wait until e3 shall we?

          • Lucas Bandeira Gobo

            We can wait forever if you want, because I’m not getting a Switch until then. No third party = FLOP.
            Meanwhile I can play ports like Mario Kart, Smash, Zelda, Skyrim on my Wii U and PC 😀

          • AJK

            Cool. Good for you. Why do you own a WiiU if you are that worried about third party?

          • Carlos

            Given all the AAA third party support, I would be surprised if the Wii failed, or the DS, or 3DS. Oh wait…

          • tHe_MaN_wItH_nO_hAnD

            Lol contradicts himself in his own comment

          • Andrew

            The Switch will flop because it doesn’t have 3rd party support… and you bought a Wii U?
            And you just mentioned Skyrim, so clearly it does have 3rd party support

    • Roto Prime

      This 1000x!!!!

    • Riku0493

      Unfortunately, Nintendo isn’t known to do these things…

      And when they do, it’s part of a hardware bundle and its a digital download.

      i.e. New Super Mario Bros 2: Gold Edition.

  • Digi Brad Channel

    For 20 euros or dollar you get all the dlc that they still need to make. If you play almost any other game with dlc you will pay 20 for a weapon and maybe a remade map

  • AquaBat

    The first DLC Pack doesn’t seem worth it at all, and neither does what they give you from the start. And why would we have to pay for a hard mode and a map feature?
    Revealing it at launch is especially not okay and makes people think that the game is being released in an unfinished state. Immediately charging 20 extra bucks on top of the 60 paid for the base game and promising a new story eight months from now is not the way to go.

    • KnightWonder

      Those thinking it’s being released in an unfinished state are morons then. They’ve already stated the game has gone gold, and on top of that, have stated they only make DLC AFTER the game is done.

      • Jeezo man you’re name is pretty accurate, you are white knighting this hard.

        I honestly am on the same boat as Aqua here for the first pack, a hard mode and a map feature? That’s really kinda lame, especially when you think about Mario Kart 8 and 200cc mode being free. However, pack 2 looks pretty great and I’m looking forward to it.

        • Andrew

          http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/white-knight
          “White Knight” (also known as “Internet White Knight”) is a pejorative term used to describe men who defend women on the Internet with the assumption that they are looking for a romantic reward in return.
          Stop using words you don’t understand

          • AquaBat

            1) Know Your Meme isn’t a valid source for definitions, or anything else
            2) The nature of language is dynamic, and words gain new definitions all the time.
            The word “literally” now has a definition in several dictionaries that (paraphrasing here) essentially says “slang term used in place of ‘figuratively'”. Would you say that definition that is now in multiple official English language dictionaries is wrong or that people are using it incorrectly?

          • Well than Nintendo is the woman in this case 😉

            And are you going to really antagonize me with a source from “know your meme”? Here is the FIRST definition I found while looking it up: “a person or thing that comes to someone’s aid.” Kinda looks like my point still stands 😛

      • AquaBat

        That’s an incredibly weak defense.
        A game going gold just means it’s confirmed for release after passing all forms of checks, that honestly means nothing. No Man’s Sky went gold and look what happened. Every game goes gold a month or so before release. That doesn’t affect or say anything about the final product at all.
        And a PR statement like that doesn’t mean anything either. In fact it’s a blatant excuse. What is “done”? When is a game qualified as “done”? That’s based on their OWN decisions. They get to decide when a game is and isn’t done.
        “Oh this game has no final boss, but we’ve decided to consider it done. Now to work on the Final Boss DLC.” See how ridiculous that sounds?
        The fact that they had these ideas to include something in the game that they haven’t yet BEFORE THE GAME HAS EVEN BEEN RELEASED explicitly means it ISN’T done. How long have they had these ideas? When did they begin working on them? Why couldn’t they have been in the game on release? These are the questions we should be asking.

        • Velen (Not WoW)

          They have a project timeline, Aqua, a production schedule. That decides when the project “needs” to be finished.

          Of course Breath of the Wild got delayed, so their production schedule changed to reflect that, but that’s not always how it works (speaking from what I learned in a business of games class at a local community college some time ago, with an instructor who had worked in the industry). Generally speaking they have a set amount of time to complete certain things before it’s considered behind schedule. When all the project goals are met, that is when the game is considered “complete”.

          All the questions you posed are correct too, the problem is we lack the evidence to answer them with any amount of good guesses.

      • You don’t know that you touchy marron.

    • Velen (Not WoW)

      I fully agree the way they’re doing this is just bad. The map feature and hard mode should’ve been a free update later down the line and the Switch shirt thing should’ve been a pre-order bonus when you preorder a switch and the game together.

      • Satan915

        If hard mode wasn’t ready in time or wasn’t going to originally be included in the main game, then it’s hard to imagine why unless they’re just being cheap to get people to buy the DLC. It doesn’t really matter how they try to justify it through PR because they wouldn’t just admit something like that. When Aonuma talked about Majora’s Mask 3D he also said they “didn’t make the game easier” but that was a completely false statement. They’ve included a hard mode in almost every Zelda game since Ocarina of Time 3D, and the usual features (like double damage, no hearts or mirror mode) shouldn’t take that long to implement. Plus they’ve had a lot of time to work on this game. It does say a “new” hard mode which some people think suggests it could be something more than usual, but in Japan it’s just called a “hard mode”, and it’s still new if there wasn’t one to begin with. Maybe it will do a few more things but I wouldn’t expect anything like a Master Quest with totally remixed dungeons and enemies.

        Now a new dungeon like the Cave of Trials would take longer to make and has more of an excuse to not be ready in time. However if there isn’t already a similar dungeon included in the game, then it also should be included in a free update since in the past they didn’t charge for those dungeons. Hopefully that’s the case like with Twilight Princess HD (although I didn’t like how it was on disc and locked behind an Amiibo). In any case it’s the icing on the cake in addition to other new stuff getting locked behind DLC in a main Zelda game.

        • Velen (Not WoW)

          Here’s the bottom line:

          We don’t know for sure what the circumstances are and anyone thinking they know the truth based on circumstantial or anecdotal evidence is fooling themselves.

          • Satan915

            But you agreed that the map feature and hard mode should be released in a free update. The other stuff is more justifiable assuming the game has a lot of content on its own.

          • Velen (Not WoW)

            You’re right, I did agree, but while I agree that map feature and the hard mode should’ve been released in a free update, there’s no real telling the reasoning behind things here.

          • ForeVision

            I duly hope that Nintendo’s new approach has them explain these things in greater detail. It helps a long way to at least understanding the reasoning.

          • Velen (Not WoW)

            Sadly that’s also an unknown, whether they will or not.

          • Satan915

            After the review embargo gets lifted tomorrow we’ll find out soon enough whether there’s a hard mode or Cave of Trials-like challenge already included in the game. If not, then they’re just locking features that have previously been included in past games behind paid DLC. Same general thing with the map feature unless its purpose is exclusively for the DLC. Whether it’s more convenient for them that way (than releasing a free update) or if it’s to further convince people to buy the DLC doesn’t really matter; the effect on consumers is still the same.

          • Satan915

            And review’s seem to indicate that there is no hard mode included in the game: http://press-start.com.au/reviews/nintendo-switch/2017/03/02/legend-zelda-breath-wild-review-whole-new-world/
            “I’m honestly surprised
            that there is no difficulty level adjustment and it’s interesting to see
            that ‘Hard Mode’ is coming in a future DLC pack.”

            http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/03/02/the-legend-of-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-review?page=2
            “I like that Nintendo allows you to switch certain items off and continue
            using the most basic tools if you feel these they’re too powerful,
            creating an informal hardcore mode.”

            Which implies that there isn’t a formal one. Still don’t know if there’s a Cave of Trials-like challenge already in the game but reviews don’t seem to mention anything about one.

  • Ryan Hainley

    Sounds great to me, to be honest! I saw a ton of people complaining in the YouTube comments like Nintendo has never done expansion passes or DLC before and this is a “whole new Nintendo” that they don’t like. Man, it’s like Mario Kart 8, Fire Emblem, and Smash 4 never happened. The finding-any-reason-to-hate mentality sure is running out of good excuses.

    • KnightWonder

      It’s funny too, their fans were begging them to get with the times. And now that they are, they’re whining.

      • Ryan Hainley

        Yeah exactly. It’s pretty ridiculous, to say the least. Optional content that isn’t at all necessary, nor is it stripped from the game, whatever will I do?

      • ForeVision

        What they mean by that, is the good parts of it, not the bad parts, but you obviously know that. That said, they’re busting their britches over DLC that’s not before the launch, as this is simply an announcement and not actual day 1 DLC.

        • Exy

          With any luck, they’ll learn to take the bad with the good. No company is perfect, and the ones that are don’t make money.

    • Satan915

      It’s new for a main series Zelda game, aside from the Twilight Princess HD dungeon that is locked behind the Wolf Link amiibo. I think people were hoping they wouldn’t do something like that again. The other thing is it’s not just new dungeons, but for a hard mode and map feature which in the past would’ve just been included with the game.

      • Ryan Hainley

        Except we don’t even know what kind of “hard mode” that is, nor do we know what the map feature refers to. These are things that were not in development until after they finished the base game, and in terms of past games, this one already breaks a lot of the formula that people know. It likely wouldn’t have included a hard mode even if they never planned DLC. We don’t know what the hard mode or the map feature actually are as of right now, so you can’t simply assume it’s similar to things we’ve had in past games.

        • Satan915

          Regardless of if it was decided before or after development, they are intending to lock these things behind paid DLC. There’s a thing called free updates, like 200cc and the Mercedes Benz in Mario Kart 8. Charging for a map feature, even a highly convenient one is just cheap. Same with hard mode considering that most Zelda games since Ocarina of Time 3D have had one. Even if it was some kind of second or master quest then don’t you think they would have called it something other than hard mode? Plus even second and master quest weren’t locked behind DLC. Also consider that you have to buy everything; it’s either all or nothing.

          • Ryan Hainley

            You compared it to Mario Kart 8, which also had paid DLC. Mercedes-Benz was a sponsorship, so they got their money without us paying. There’s this thing, it’s called development costs. They make back their money on the base game, but that doesn’t cover DLC development costs. And like I said, “Map Feature” and “Hard Mode” are incredibly vague, you and I have no idea what they are at all, so trying to compare them to past games in the series is a null point. We don’t know how much effort has to go into developing these things, so basically your only point is “it’s bad because I want free stuff.”

          • nemo37

            I think part of the backlash has been due to the timing of the announcement. Nintendo has been one of the few companies (the only other one I can think of is CD Project Red) that has stayed away from doing day 1 paid DLC. So I think fans feel threatened that Nintendo is going down this direction. I think it would have been wiser to announce the DLC a few months after the release of the main game, where a lot people might have played the main game and want more.

            I do understand that things like a new dungeons and a new story do incur a cost and so having them behind a pay wall is not an unusual act. Moreover, I understand games of this scale, overall, are quite risky so the developer will use DLC to recoup original development costs; which again is perfectly fine so long as it is done in a fair way. I believe the addition of content to a feature complete base game is a fair way of doing this, and I think for the most . On the other hand, assuming this is a standard hard mode or a master quest mode, such a mode should not really be available behind a paywall (if the hard mode ends up being something of a much larger scale, then I would say you have a point). Similarly, if the new map features enhance the main game, for example they allow you to locate certain objects easier, then I would say that is something that should not be behind an additional pay wall either (but again like you said we know very little about what map features are, so it is early to make a judgement). Things like a new dungeon and a new story, are fine behind an additional pay wall, especially since it appears that Nintendo has put in more than sufficient content in the base game.

          • TheWeasel

            The exact wording used in the announcement, “a new hard mode”, leads me to believe that this does not refer to the standard hard mode that is usually in the games, and instead refers to something much different.

          • Satan915

            Ok well the 200cc was still free. The point was that it also included free DLC. Other games, like Smash 4 and Streetpass Mii Plaza also got free quality of life improvements (while still having options to pay for more stuff).

            More likely than not a map feature is not going to take a lot of time and money to develop, and the costs for that could be covered by base game sales, other DLC sales and even Switch console sales (especially because this is a launch game). Just like all the other games that come with free updates. As for hard mode, unless the game comes with a basic hard mode by default (which means the paid one would have to have new content). then it’s still something we have to pay for that was included with games in the past. I guess we’ll see.

          • TheWeasel

            I believe, considering they have finished developing BotW and are presenting us with the full and complete game already, that Nintendo has the right to choose whether they want to be compensated or not for any additional development and content they produce.

            Just because they did it for free in MK8 and Splatoon doesn’t mean that they obligated to do so in this case.

          • Satan915

            Sure they have the right, but we also have the right to disagree and/or not buy it. I do not think that a hard mode should be tied behind a pay wall. If there’s a basic hard mode included in the game like we got in past games (that’s at least what makes it “complete” in my opinion) and the new hard mode actually adds new content then fine, but I have a feeling that wont be the case. Regardless of what the map feature is I probably wont change my mind about that either.

          • i have the right to tease you for whining

          • TheWeasel

            That’s quite alright, many people choose not to purchase additional content for things.

            I have a feeling that BotW does include a standard hard mode, considering they used the phrase “a new hard mode”. This leads me to believe it is not the hard mode.

            And well, considering the map feature is only one of the smaller features included in this package deal, I feel it’s not useful to dwell on that when anyone who purchases the DLC will receive the meatier content of the new story and the like.

            It’s akin to ordering some food but focusing on the fact that it comes with a certain condiment that you don’t care for, but you’re still getting the rest of the meal. 😛 What you’re really paying for is the substantive part, and it has the condiment included. Likewise, this DLC is really about that meaty content coming later, and the other smaller ones are more like the condiments.

            I say to give Nintendo the benefit of the doubt, because they have shown themselves capable of handling DLC well recently. 🙂

          • Satan915

            Although with condiments some people like them with the meal, but unless the map feature is made exclusively to support the paid dlc (very doubtful), then it’s a condiment for the main game that you have to pay for. So it’d be like ordering a meal, but not getting salt for it unless you order dessert.

            I heard that in Japan it’s just called “hard mode”, not “new hard mode”. Near the bottom of this page: https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/189707-the-legend-of-zelda-breath-of-the-wild/74987307
            But I guess we’ll see. It would have to be a pretty meaty hard mode like Master Quest to make it worth it over a standard one, unless of course there’s no hard mode to start with.

          • TheWeasel

            True, it wasn’t going to be a perfect analogy, but I see your point.

            Well, we’ll have to see what further news we get from Nintendo regarding this. I truly hope it is not disappointing news, and that it can be a fulfilling and valuable DLC.

            Personally, coming from the Hyrule Warriors DLC, I feel like I am going to be getting my money’s worth. I am looking forward with optimism and not worrying yet about things I won’t know for certain until a later date. 🙂

          • Satan915

            Oh it’ll probably be worth it, especially because they’re tying those features to it, but that’s the potential issue I was talking about. Companies might lock more stuff behind paid DLC that they could’ve otherwise included in the base game (or a free update) to make the paid DLC seem more worthwhile. In this case it may be minor, but it’s still something that I don’t think should be paid DLC.

          • TheWeasel

            I hope and believe that it will be lile you just said.

            That being said, Nintendo has not been one to fall into that bad practice as of yet, since the DLC they have released has been additional work beyond the completed main game. Some of it even released for free, as you said. Even so, I wouldn’t blame them if they did charge for some of this content, as it is extra work done by their teams.

            If the content is worthwhile, then I wouldn’t mind paying, even if I do always prefer free things, haha.

  • Lucas Bandeira Gobo

    If there is a way I’ll just sell this Switch T-shirt.
    I’m not a Switch adopter and I hate this system so much.
    Everything points to another fail and I’m not with Nintendo in this one.
    They should’ve learned with Wii U.
    Giving a Switch T-shirt for us Wii U owners is just sarcasm, can’t be anything else.

    • TheJuiciest

      This made me laugh.

    • Ninty Kad

      Funny guy this one.. XD

    • tHe_MaN_wItH_nO_hAnD

      Lol, well good for you guy, hope you find something you enjoy doing and no longer feel the need to complain about something you don’t want.

    • Andrew

      How do you sell a part of your DLC?

  • Justmadeanaccount2

    DLC at launch? That’s strange for Nintendo. I’ll buy it eventually though.

    • You can pre-order it at launch, but it won’t be ready/available until later in the year.

  • TheWeasel

    Oh hey, I’m predicting yet another article that will get so bloated with debates and complaints that I will once again elect to not participate in solely for that reason. 😀 Gotta love when we get some big news constantly.

    • srods1

      Totally agree. And as far as Zelda franchise goes, I was never disappointed.

    • Ninty Kad

      Finally someone thought about this rationally.

    • My thoughts exactly. You saved me the time. lol

  • Tlozbj

    They should have waited till after launch to announce this :v

    • NintendoPSXTheSecond

      Well she does have the blood of the Goddess Hylia.

      • Tlozbj

        Well yeah, but I mean that they are actually tring to make her feel like a goddess, and not a princess descending from her. Maybe she is the second return of Hylia? A last ditch effort of the Goddess to fully destroy Demise and Ganon?

  • Ser2k2

    I’m in!

  • Bruno_Ostara

    Come’on, nintendo. WHY do you have to announce this now?! That just give people an excuse to go full hate. The game is not even out yet, there surely is plenty of Zelda things to announce and hype the game. WAIT TO ANNOUNCE DLC AFTER RELEASE, not weeks before. Announcing DLC before release in a massive game like this is just stupid, just give fuel for people to say that there’s no reason for that not to be included in the game and things like that. This DLC probably is a great idea and makes the game life even longer and thats amazing. BUT WAIT FOR THE RELEASE BEFORE ANNOUNCING. Gosh

    • Bcardia

      I agree, man. This announcement is baffling. They should’ve waited.

      • Bruno_Ostara

        It’s not like the DLC itself is a bad idea, but there’s literally no reason to announce this now. Hold your horses, guys

  • Sinara Centeno

    A time and money spent. Both, for consumers and for Aonuma team. It could be resources spending in a new game…

  • Luke WalkingMoonTree

    I think this is the price for Zelda at launch, the game has gone gold and the fact that the (major) additional content is coming in summer/holiday means that they’ll be making it from now until the release of said DLC. the problem is that it’s stuff that was always included like hard mode (supposing there isn’t another one already in the game) or Battle Trial, the only true addition is the new story coming this holiday…

  • Bcardia

    Seeing Nintendo embracing the season pass system for Zelda feels very weird. I mean it was inevitable, but still weird. Also I agree with the rest, they should’ve waited for the game to come out before announcing this stuff. I think this would’ve been good material to announce at E3.

  • Burning Gravity

    Oh no DLC, how terrible /s

  • metalpants

    Wow people. It’s freaking *DLC*… it’s OPTIONAL!! Holy cow. The game is already its own complete massive adventure. Everything else is dessert. I honestly wasn’t expecting this so I’m surprised a game of this magnitude would get DLC. That said, I doubt I’ll be getting it any time soon since I already have too many games on my must-have list for this year. But this is definitely good news in many ways.

  • Lilla My

    DLCs are good, but announcing them before the release of the main game is a huge mistake, fake DLCs have been a disease in this industry for many years now, I’m really sad Nintendo is joining this crappy thinking.

    It’s not a problem about the new contents, but there is a good way and a bad way to do this, talking DLC and money before we can even play the main game is a real mistake.

    Switch logo shirt: it has nothing to do in the Zelda Universe!! And we have to pay for it…

    It’s not even a disguise, you have to pay right now (3rd March) if you want useful items, what a shame.

    • Luke WalkingMoonTree

      I’m positive all this content will be develped AFTER this announcement, otherwise they’d give you everything at launch, they probably couldn’t end development for this features in time for launch…

  • Ninty Kad

    After gathering my own (and some others thoughts) I will say… This isn’t too bad.

    It’s likely the case that the DLC content mostly consists of stuff that wasn’t finished or already in the game before it went Gold. They probably don’t want to delay the game more to miss the Switch’s launch. Adding a new Hard mode to serve the general approach to BotW’s difficulty is probably going to take some time to set up too. The Game does look a bit harder cause (from what I’ve seen) the grass doesn’t yield hearts and, if not careful, basic enemies can kill you pretty easily.

  • Tlink7

    Really? Having to pay to increase game difficulty? I am disappointed, Nintendo

  • Fabian

    A bit premature to announce this already, but of course they don’t want to miss out on the money of those who’ll buy the game (+DLC) now but would already have lost interest by the time it actually releases.

  • hi v3.0

    Don’t know why y’all be complaining about optional content and games are expensive to make these days. But yeah they should’ve announce this after launch

    • Luke WalkingMoonTree

      They probably did so to let reviewers/long time fans why this features that have always been in the game won’t be available at launch…

  • Damian Rasmussen

    I’m seriously surprised about the reaction people are having to the DLC.
    Nintendo have proved that they know how to deliver amazing DLC and yet Nintendo fans wanna send them to hell for it ?
    You are getting the biggest Zelda game ever but don’t want more content ?!
    What’s wrong with you ?!

    • Tlink7

      I think the main issue is that Nintendo is announcing this three weeks before the game releases, giving the illusion content is deliberately being put behind an additional paywall

    • TheWeasel

      There’s not really much trust in them towards Nintendo, despite how they’ve proven themselves capable. Not even the benefit of the doubt. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

      • ForeVision

        As much as I’d like to give them all my trust in the world, I am not blind to what has happened in the past. That said, people have pointed out that this isn’t the same old Nintendo we’re talking about, so I’m willing to give them a fresh outlook, without the burden of the past.

    • Ninty Kad

      It may have to do with the fact that It was announced BEFORE the game came out, which is fair.

    • Bruno_Ostara

      The DLC is not the problem. I think everyone here at least know Nintendo DLC is usually great. But there’s absolute no reason to announce this today. Nintendo asked for the hate by announcing this today, people can’t really be blamed. It was a terrible move

      • Damian Rasmussen

        How is it Nintendo’s problem that fans wanna see everything as something negative ?

        • Bruno_Ostara

          It’s Nintendo problem that they don’t understand that early DLC is always received badly. Thats not exclusive to Nintendo games. So a DLC announcement before release couldn’t be received other way

        • Tlink7

          Because plenty of idiots go ”OMG DAY ONE DLC?! DAT MEANS DEY MUNNYGRUBBERS R PURPOSEFULL HOLDING BACK CONTENT AND THE GAME IS INCOMPLETE”

          • Damian Rasmussen

            I have seen NOTHING that indicates that BotW is incomplete, quiet opposite, they keep surprising me with how jam packed with content this game is from day one and I can get more content ?!

  • dammit nintendo i was wanting to save money for other stuff

    meh might as well get it since im getting it digitally and it will be great to use some of this stuff on replays

  • Tlink7

    I am looking forward to the new story in December 😀 but Nintendo is kinda daft for announcing this before the game is out yet xD

  • Blanco8x8

    Keep in mind that Nintendo does DLC right and doesn’t undermine the value of the base game.

    • r4ind4nce

      Not yet. But I do get where you’re coming from and I do believe in them. Fill up that huge world with everything you can, Nintendo. I’ll be waiting.

    • ForeVision

      They’ve done right by DLC so far, but nobody is invulnerable to going off the track. Best keep a middle line, and wait till it’s actually here. That said, as Bruno has said, they should’ve waited with this.

  • wisdomsprince

    Not you too Nintendo!

  • r4ind4nce

    a) This is fine.
    b) no, wait, this is GREAT!
    c) couldn’t they have waited two or three months to release that information? As cool as I think this is, they’re just asking for trouble.

    • Tlink7

      MAKE IT DOUBLE~

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        • r4ind4nce

          xD that never gets old.

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          • Tlink7

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          • r4ind4nce

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          • Tlink7

            TEAM ROCKET BLASTS OFF AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT

          • r4ind4nce

            Surrender now, or prepare to figt!

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          • Tlink7

            This song is a guilty pleasure of mine xD

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  • Vigilante_blade

    Wait, I want to play har dmode right away. So I’ll be punished with an easy game if I buy early.

    • hi v3.0

      The standard mode is already pretty hard

      • Felipe M.

        Not really, it’s only hard if you’re bad at games.

        • hi v3.0

          I heard you lose 5 hearts per hit..

          • Felipe M.

            From someone that played Zelda:BotW Premiere Demo?

          • hi v3.0

            I even remember watching a video when Link fights a Guardian and he died in one hit

          • MusubiKazesaru

            Guardians deal 6 hearts of damage and I’ve heard ice Lizalfos deal similar damage and they come camouflaged in the snow sometimes.

          • hi v3.0

            Even people who are “good” at games are having a hard time with it

          • ««H3©TöR»»

            If you remember the Game Awards Demo, you’ll see that Lizalfos do a whopping 7 hearts of damage.

          • MusubiKazesaru

            That’s what Gameinformer said as well.

          • Bcardia


            Yes, you can see it at 1:00
            Now compare this to Twilight Princess, where a hit from Ganondorf, who is the freaking final boss, only takes half a heart. Huge improvement.

          • ««H3©TöR»»

            Now, imagine that in Hard Mode.

          • MusubiKazesaru

            I assume better armor like that armor from the reveal trailer reduces damage a bit, but it’s still a huge amount of damage.

        • hi v3.0

          Pretty sure pro gamers like you will have a hard time in this game too

    • Ninty Kad

      Enemies can kill you pretty easy if your careless. Plus, grass doesn’t seem to yield hearts like it was before…

      • Bcardia

        Just because the game is harder than previous Zeldas doesn’t mean that hiding stuff like difficulty modes behind a paywall is ok.
        I think you guys are missing the point here.

        • Ninty Kad

          It May mean that the hard mode is a proper hard mode, and they may didn’t have enough time to put it in the main game.

        • hi v3.0

          Let’s say this game’s difficulty is at Wind Waker level then yeah I would be mad if they this, but this hard mode is more of a special treat to the super hardcore players imo

      • Vigilante_blade

        I played Dark and Demon Souls, so… I need more challenge. Always more.

        • Supporter

          I’m the opposite. Nintendo, is there an easy difficulty? 😛

          • UltimaLuminaire

            I believe the DLC has you covered with useful starter equipment (with no risk of getting a game over in the process). Beyond that is just picking off small enemies and using stealth to bypass large camps or bigger enemies. I also noticed no issue when running away since the (non-Guardian) AI tends to quickly de-aggro once you’re a certain distance away. Vertical distance notwithstanding.

          • Vigilante_blade

            I am okay with both being there. I just hate having to wait or unlock for a difficulty more tailored to my needs. For example, in a Link Between Worlds, by the time I got hero mode, my skill at the game improved so Hero mode was easier, defeating the purpose.

          • ForeVision

            I’d say it depends on the type of difficulty. If we’re talking about Monster Hunter difficulty, AKA hard hits, but telegraphed and dodge-able unless you’re not paying attention, vs Dynasty Warriors difficulty, as in everything just hits like a truck, whether it makes sense for it to and you can dodge it or not.

        • UltimaLuminaire

          The day Zelda provides you the challenge you crave will be a great day, I think. Until then, my friend.

        • ForeVision

          I’m guessing you’ve got your eyes set on Nioh then?

      • Vigilante_blade

        Yet I have to wait to play the game the way I would enjoy it most. There is no point in playing a hard mode after you beat a game already. Having mastered it, hard mode is no longer “hard”.

    • UltimaLuminaire

      The perceived notion of getting punished for, what, the first time? Truth is Zelda hasn’t catered to hard mode fans since Zelda 2, and that one was unintentional. Every game since has either hid their hard mode, made it so you couldn’t play hard mode at first, or didn’t include a difficulty option at all. They’ve always neglected everyone but their target audience and it was whatever because silly Zelda things. Even when they did include hard mode on recent games, it was a joke.

      It really isn’t worth getting the DLC expansion just for hard mode unless it’s worth calling hard. I highly doubt they have the capacity to make a satisfying hard mode. However, if they did put effort into a deep and satisfying hard mode (OH MY), not only would I be surprised, but I would understand why they would wait till they had a smaller team with solid dev tools before starting to work on it.

      At least that’s how I see it. If it turns out to be a malicious mess, well… I will have lost no sleep over it lmao

      EDIT: Pillars of Eternity White March updated their UI among other things and it was simply because the dev team hadn’t thought about truly optimal UI during development and play testing. I wouldn’t be surprised if this happened to be the case for Aonuma here. You didn’t say anything about this; I just thought people around us were freaking out too much about it.

    • Dude, the game is already hard as it is, i would bet my two cents that the Hard Mode is something more in lines of a Master Quest rather than “less heart drop and more enemies damage” crap.

  • ForeVision

    To give people an idea of what this looks like: https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/3psifq/chaos_warriors_locked_behind_launch_day_dlc_total/
    http://kotaku.com/game-studio-shocked-that-fans-dont-like-their-pre-order-1746050405
    Again, looks like. We don’t know the exact date, it’s just that, their timing is highly unfortunate, as again, it reminds of things like my examples given above.

  • supermario69

    Nintendrones will defend this

  • Ser2k2

    It’s a new Hard Mode. Some people said the game is hard. So don’t jump the gun too soon. We need to wait until Nintendo explain everything about this DLC.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/feb57fa439b054f0a39830eac99433075084e63c7e428ccd8c317f93e55af4b5.jpg

    • ForeVision

      Would’ve been a nice inclusion in the original post tbh.

    • That’s a poor excuse on the grounds of fabrication of something you do not know exits

      • Ser2k2

        And?

  • After 150 playing hours I wished Xenoblade X had DLC. I’m sure I’ll eventually get to that point with BotW. I’m glad to hear this.

  • ForeVision

    I’m sure Nintendo will learn 1 thing from this: To hold their guns on the announcement until a few weeks after launch. The DLC itself is not day 1, not on the disk, so there’s no valid argument to be made there, only in the timing itself.

    • AJK

      I think Aonuma was just so excited to be given the go ahead to make more stuff for the game that he wanted to announce it…lots of people have been asking him about DLC recently and saying they want it so I am guessing that the decision to allow him and the team to add more stuff is a pretty recent one.

      • ForeVision

        I see, so it’s pressure given by people asking for it. I guess it can’t be helped then, even so announcing it before launch is a very thorny subject, and I doubt Aonuma was unaware of this.

  • Kenshin0011

    I’m fine with DLC, but this seems rather expensive…Especially when they want the $20 up-front for a couple treasure chests and a piece of in-game clothing.
    Also, many of us are already spending $90 – $130 on the special or master editions of the game….Why can’t they make it so that those purchasers get the DLC at least at a reduced cost?

    And for everyone too, why can’t they price it a little more aggressively? Maybe charge $14.99 if you buy within launch and it will be $19.99 when the DLC actually comes out.

    • Bcardia

      My main gripe is that you can’t purchase the dlc packs individually. Except for the hard mode (which should’ve been there for free), DLC pack 1 sounds uninteresting. Now DLC pack 2 seems to be great, so the option to purchase only 1 pack for half the price would’ve been cool for me.

      • Kenshin0011

        The game seems to be very hard in the first place…we don’t even know what this hard mode is, it may not be something that’s as simple as a flipped switch before you start playing like in past games. That’s why it’s taking extra time to develop.

        I understand the decision not to split up the DLC, because it ultimately brings them more revenue while delivering the full amount of content to everyone. However, $19.99 is too expensive in the first place, especially for day 1 adopters

        • Bcardia

          Again, the game being harder than previous Zelda games (which is not a great feat to achieve) doesn’t make this in any way okay.
          And while I agree that the hard mode could be something more unorthodox, it kinda highlights another problem with this DLC announcement: The lack of information. I mean simple bullet ponts like “new hard mode” and “new map feature” are by no means precise enough. Being cryptic like this only causes more confusion.

          • Kenshin0011

            Well they may not be able to detail it much because it’s likely still early in development, and they shouldn’t detail too much because it just distracts from the game itself which hasn’t released.

            Basically, they should not have even announced this now. There was no point to do that, only for a cash grab, which is what bugs me about the timing and way they’ve announced it. “Give us $20 right now”….smh

          • Bcardia

            “Basically, they should not have even announced this now.”
            Yeah, I agree. I simply don’t get why they didn’t wait to announce it at E3 or something. Kinda like Sony announced the Uncharted 4 DLC last at the Playstation Experience event. That way it would’ve been more hype without causing negative reactions.

          • Kenshin0011

            And at E3, they’d likely have footage and content to show by then.

            I don’t think this will kill the hype since everyone has already pre-ordered and so many likely won’t even see news of this DLC until later.

            However, it gives another reason to bash Nintendo by those who have it out for then.

  • AJK

    I should be shocked at how dumb people are being over all of this. Sadly, I have been on the internet for far too long now and realise that there are so many entitled brats. ITS OPTIONAL DLC IDIOTS! THE GAME IS COMPLETE AND DOESN’T REQUIRE THIS NEW STUFF!

    • Kenshin0011

      Hey, you know what? The game itself is optional too! 😛

      Being upset with the existence of the DLC itself is pointless, but there’s nothing wrong with having issues with the pricing.

      • AJK

        That’s true. We don’t know how extensive all this new content is for the price yet though.

  • nekoknight

    “Money money money money……MONEY!”

    • Tlink7

      Well Nintendo is a company 😛 a company, I might add, with some of the best DLC: MK8 DLC is just amazing, like half an extra game worth of tracks

  • Hexodious

    Um, only one dungeon with a story?

    I don’t really care about the other packs, but just ONE dungeon with a story in a giant world? When you do DLC at least make it attractive, sure we don’t know how long it is going to be but this is already looking underwhelming to me, you just don’t plant a dungeon in the middle of nowhere with a story attached to it and call it a day, lol

    Maybe i’m expecting too much from Nintendo, oh well whatever, it’s optional anyways

    • maybe the other dungeons will be redone somehow

  • awng781

    I’m interested in seeing what the DLC will actually include and if that will be worth $20.

  • Harenghead

    So mister Iwata really was the limiter.

    “sigh”

    That sucks. Defend it all you want people, this is anti-consumer, and Nintendo going that route doesn’t feel good, especially with Zelda.
    It had to happen eventually I guess…

    • Ser2k2

      How do you know?

      • Harenghead

        How do I know what?

        • Ser2k2

          How do you know if Iwata was the limiter?

          • Harenghead

            Well I’m just seeing a shift that began some time after he left.

            I get the feeling this is the not the kind of things that could have happened back when he was in charge.

          • Ser2k2

            I don’t think so. We don’t know if the shift of Nintendo direction began before his dead or after his dead.

          • Harenghead

            Maybe so. But he is notorious for keeping Nintendo comsumer-friendly(to an extent) for years, while other game developpers/console manufacturers were showing gamers a firm middle finger.
            I just assumed that he couldn’t be the only one responsible for that; in the end, it would seem like he really was.

          • Ser2k2

            You know people change, and companies change too. I’ll wait until Nintendo give us the middle finger in the relationship with DLC, when that happens I will complain about it. Until then I will not be complaining about DLCs. They can do whatever they want.

          • Harenghead

            Letting it happen is the best way for it to ultimately happen. That’s how they get you; they go at it one step at a time, and count on the thousands of people telling others it’s “no big deal” covering the noise of the complainers.

            I’m not saying you have a duty to be annoyed or anything though. Truth be told, you’d have to put your life into it to make a change by yourself, so might as well do nothing.

          • Ser2k2

            They already got you in the train of being negative about DLC too. You don’t know if Nintendo cut any content from the game or if Nintendo is making new content for the game.

          • Harenghead

            I’m not expecting it to be cut content actually, though that would certainly be the pits. That being said, post game dlc with story involved does imply that some stones will deliberately be left unturned. Hopefully it won’t be anything big, unlike with Fire Emblem Fates for example.
            Also free updates are a thing too. I’m not asking for unpaid labor, I’m just saying.

    • Tlink7

      Day one preordering, not DLC

      • Harenghead

        I fail to see how that’s any better…?

        • Tlink7

          Erm, you have a problem with pre ordering…? It has been around for quite a while xD

          • Harenghead

            I actually don’t, it’s the principle of it.
            I mean look at that content, exclusive cosmetic items, hard mode, more story, additonnal feature? This is anti-consumer dlc 101, in possibly their most important game in years. This does not bode well for the future.

          • Tlink7

            Well only three (cosmetic) items are part of the pre ordering, the rest of the DLC you can get as long as Nintendo maintains online servers for the Switch, starting coming summer and next winter

          • Harenghead

            Yeah, it’s only cosmetic, am I right? By the way, I don’t believe it is…?
            I don’t get why you’d be defending them here is the thing. You could be neutral, but unless you have actions in Nintendo, I’m not seeing it.
            Can you tell me how this is a good thing, and if not, why you’re defending it exactly?

          • ForeVision

            I’m guessing Tlink means that there have been far more egregious examples of similar practices. I’ve named a few of them in this comments section, but I’ll put one here once more: The Chaos Warriors DLC pack of Total War: Warhammer. There was a tantrum so heavy it caused Sega and Creative Assembly to change things up.

          • Harenghead

            Oh, I’m aware. Again, it really is the principle of it. It sucks to see Nintendo go that route imo.

          • ForeVision

            It comes down to “how much of a tantrum do I want to throw over 3 chests with 1 being a, kind of immersion breaking shirt fur teh lolz and 2 “useful” items (we don’t even know what these are)”

          • Harenghead

            It does. Similarly, how much of your time are you willing to spend defending a corporation that will never care that you even exist, etc.
            I do aknowledge that this might not look like a big deal, and me saying that it is largely based on assumptions can come off as pointless whining, though. If that’s the problem here, I apologize.

          • ForeVision

            I’m well aware that we’re but one of many customers. But if many customers unite, there is definitely going to be change. Project Mistwalker I think it was called, and the Chaos Warriors DLC, are but a couple of projects that prove this.

            The problem here, is it’s something minor, 3 chests 1 with a cosmetic 2 with “useful” things.

          • Harenghead

            What’s in these chests will be game breaking, mark my words…!!
            Seriously though, unless I’m misunderstanding, you’re paying for all three dlc packs at once, yes? Chests aren’t the only thing here.

          • ForeVision

            Those chests are an incentive for people to pay for it day 1, and you’re basically paying for the other 2 packs, if anything. I’ll wait for more details, before I decide to slap down money on this.

          • Tlink7

            Because I think three cosmetic items aren’t nearly worth the rage some people are producing xD Nintendo is being incredibly tame compared to other companies, so I don’t see it as a problem. That’s why I’m defending them – Zelda DLC is awesome!

          • Tlink7

            Well one of the items you get is a shirt, so that’s at least one cosmetic out of the three.
            I always try to be neutral; if something is poop, I criticise. If people, in my opinion, are overreacting, I tell them. I love the fact that such a beautiful game is getting more content in 4-ish months and then again in 9-ish months. That’s why I’m defending this. Now, pre order bonuses are a bit eh, but Nintendo isn’t offering you major stuff for pre ordering like a shrine, it is just three treasure chests. On par with getting different-coloured Shy Guys and Yoshi’s when pre ordering Mario Kart 8 DLC.

            It isn’t day one DLC (not even close), it is day one pre ordering. I don’t really care about that with these bonuses ¯_(ツ)_/¯
            And the MK8 DLC was brilliant, so I have high hopes for this batch of extra content!

          • Harenghead

            About these chests, by the way, we’re all assuming they’re not going to be anything big(and I’m not criticizing that, it’s reasonable imo), so I was looking for some kind of precedent throughout the Zelda series… and I think the DX version of Link’s Awakening, which gave you a x2 bonus to either attack or defense is a somewhat comparable case?
            … it really isn’t if we’re being honest, but those bonuses were completely game breaking. And I can see Nintendo advertising the reward at the end of the bonus dungeon where they lied as “something useful”, if you know what I’m saying.

            Basically my point is, let’s not be TOO sure what’s in there will be insignificant at large.

          • Tlink7

            If the items in the chests are not insignificant, I will be angry at Nintendo 😛

          • ForeVision

            I’ve got a feeling you may get angry then, since “useful” items are rarely to never insignificant, otherwise they wouldn’t be useful.

          • Tlink7

            Well if it like a sword, that is useful, but as long as it isn’t some Godly weapon, I find it insignficant in the grand scheme of things

          • ForeVision

            Then I doubt there’d be reason to get angry, since if they pull that, they’ve a lot more to worry about than just you being annoyed 😛

  • NintendoPSXTheSecond

    Nintendo so far has had a positive track record regarding DLC so even if it’s now touching the supposeded “sacred” LoZ series (I’m a fanboy of Zelda too but cmon people), it’ll be fine. No one’s forcing your hand to input your debit card anyways. It’s nice to know that with this big world they’re not abandoning it immediately.

  • Roto Prime

    What is this BS!!!!!!!!!! Not like this Nintendo, Iwata-sama would never have allowed this ò___________ó

    • ForeVision

      Calm your tantrum, Roto. It’s pre-announced, but not day 1. It’ll come later in 2017, just look at Ser2K2’s post. All that you get when you get it March 3rd, is those chests (though you can argue, that’s Day 1 DLC)

      • Roto Prime

        ;___; I under stand world expansion, that is perfect, but day one DLC hurts >.< They did the same thing with Fantasy Life ;______;

    • Tlink7

      It is day one preordering, not day one DLC

      • ForeVision

        I do see one problem though: Those chests. They contain useful items, albeit that one cannot argue against that since it’s not a PVP game, it is day 1 DLC.

        • Tlink7

          Technically you are right, but two chests are so insignificant compared to what’s coming in the summer and holidays… I don’t think they count 😛
          They’re more of a preorder bonus than day-one DLC

          • ForeVision

            Well, pre-order bonuses aren’t a good thing either, and though it’s far from the likes of Evolve or the whole catastrophe that is Total War: Warhammer’s Warriors of Chaos DLC (the consumer has gotten a small victory out of that, forcing them to make it a free download for those who bought the game, in the first week after launch) it depends on how much of a fuss you want to make of it really.

            As I’ve said, if it was a PvP game, you can expect a tantrum, since those items could’ve given an advantage over other players. But we’re not talking a PvP game, so it’s all about how much offence one wishes to take on Zelda offering a season pass, with a small incentive to do so day 1.

            Personally, if I buy it, it will be later down the line, since the Switch with Bomberman R, Zelda and a Pro-controller, already tears 500 euros from my bank-account, so I’ll wait for a month with it.

          • Tlink7

            I don’t like pre ordering to begin with, I think it is stupid to buy something before you can review it (unless you are 100% certain you will love it).

            If the pre order bonus is anything other than an IRL item or and in-game item, I don’t like it. I don’t use those items in-game anyway, because they feel like cheating xD

            I personally will not be pre ordering this DLC immediately, maybe when the summer nears

          • NintendoPSXTheSecond

            Then there’s me who pre-ordered the Zelda Master Edition but probably won’t have the console for a couple months. What? Don’t look at me like that.

          • ForeVision
          • NintendoPSXTheSecond
          • ForeVision

            Hey, don’t give me that look, you know I’m right.

          • NintendoPSXTheSecond

            I can’t help it if I’m a Zelda fan. I need all things Zelda!

          • ForeVision

            I wonder if you own a Zelda morning robe like I do 😛

          • NintendoPSXTheSecond

            Haha I don’t wear those kinds of things so no but I have more figures and statues than I should have.

          • ForeVision

            A warm fluffy morning robe with the Triforce emblem on it’s back. Besides, I thought you said you need all things Zelda 😮

          • NintendoPSXTheSecond

            All things with collectors value of course!

          • ForeVision

            Are you telling me my Zelda morning robe does not have collector’s value? I mean, it’s both functional and has collector’s value in my eyes 😛

          • NintendoPSXTheSecond

            You drive some nice points but apparel has never been on my list of collections XD I’ve posted most pictures of my collection to parts of Twitter and Instagram all under NintendoPSX so if you’re curious you can see why I needed Master Edition regardless if I’m getting Switch day one or not.

          • ««H3©TöR»»
          • Tlink7

            Well that’s a different situation! I highly doubt the Zelda Master Edition will still be available in a months time, that’s why I preordered it as well xD first thing I paid for well in advance… in… forever

      • Roto Prime

        ;_______; It’s getting so dark, and your profile picture does not help…to goofy lol

        • Tlink7

          • Roto Prime

            lololōlolol wowzers, me eyes!

          • ForeVision

            Something tells me that spy has spent too much time on the battlefield, and to little time in the “relief” house, if you know what I’m saying.

    • TheWeasel

      Roto! Let’s wait to see how this will turn out! Believe in me who believes in Nintendo!

      • ForeVision

        *steals Weasel’s robes and runs off with them* None of that, thank you!

      • Roto Prime

        DLC before a game is even out hurts so much ;_______; Weasel….why is this happening?!

        • ForeVision

          Probably because Nintendo is trying new things. It depends on the response on what they’ll do with it further.

          • Roto Prime

            Expansion to the world is perfect, having to pay for hard mode is total bs -______- I am sad ;_______;

          • ForeVision

            We don’t know all the ins and outs yet Roto, best to wait for full details. That said, I am getting REAL tired of Nintendo only giving half answers, leaving people guessing as to the important details. I hope with my heart of hearts, that they’ll cut that the F out sooner rather than later.

          • Roto Prime

            ;________; They should have said nothing till E3……now I don’t know if I should wait for a Zelda Breath of the Wild deluxe -_____- This burns my soul!

          • ForeVision

            If you’re not certain, and you can feasibly wait, then wait. If money is that big of an issue, then simply bide your time, it will only be in your advantage. It’s the people that move quickly that pay the price. (Example: Everyone that buys a Switch now, will be paying more than when it eventually gets a price cut, if you’re one of those people that waits, you get it cheaper, though later.)

          • Roto Prime

            FOREVISION you genius!!

  • QuestionKing3445

    Guys you are aware that the expansion pass seems to be both dlc combined for the price point of 20$. And the add 3 gifts for purchasing all the dlc just shows how Nintendo really cares for your continued support. Its really not that bad a price point for all the content they listed. And I for one support this ultimatley and love the idea of a ever expanding hyrule.

    • NintendoPSXTheSecond

      I’m fine with it too. I bought DLC on all the Nintendo games I have so far (Except Fire Emblem because jesus there’s so many to it) but I’ve enjoyed them all so far. More content for this vast world is a good thing.

      • QuestionKing3445

        It truly is and I’ve loved Nintendo’s dlc season passes. They never been required, and the original game itself already is packed to brim with content. So the added content makes the game more fun to come back and visit and see the new features. And its not required since the original game shines by itself.

        • NintendoPSXTheSecond

          Yep! Longevity is necessary in today’s gaming environment.

          • ForeVision

            As someone who regularly get’s 600+ hours out of a single game with DLC (I’ve bought ALL the DLC Total War: Warhammer offers, except for the first one, since I’ve downloaded that for free due to the actions of the consumers.) I agree with this statement.

          • QuestionKing3445

            Hyrule Warriors Legends DLC really added quite a few more hours to the base game. Even if it wasn’t the prettiest port it had more things to do than the original. DLC really does rock if it is done correctly and not over priced.

          • ForeVision

            I got rather tired of it, probably due to fatigue in the genre, so I sold my Hyrule Warriors copy. I’ll get back into it with FE Warriors.

          • QuestionKing3445

            It sure is. It helps keep the player interested in the game by adding new content. Like how Mario Kart 8 added 16 new tracks with its DLC plus 2 new characters. Or Hyrule Warriors adding 4 new characters and hours more content with the new adventure maps.

    • Kenshin0011

      It certainly does sting a little when Switch people are already spending anywhere from $360 – $1000 on the consoles, Zelda, and other games and accessories.

      So when Aounuma casually asks for an extra $20 up front like this, it strikes me as tone deaf.

      • QuestionKing3445

        You don’t have to buy it day 1. You could wait till the first DLC pack is available then get the expansion pass. It just gives you in game goods for purchasing the dlc. A nice way to say thank you for your continued support. But the game itself will still be massive even without this DLC.

        • Kenshin0011

          I will be waiting to see what’s in these 3 treasure chests to see if it’s worth it.

          Either way, they are being too stingy.

          With Mario Kart 8 and Smash Bros, there were actual financial savings when you purchased all the DLC together.
          That’s not offered here, which again, is especially rude when so many of us are spending hundreds and hundreds of dollars on their Switch launch.

          • NintendoPSXTheSecond

            The Switch and the game are not synonomous with each other you know? There are plenty of people who are buying a Switch and not Zelda. You equally seem to ignore that the Switch is going to be on sale for years (hopefully) and not everyone who buys one from now to 2018 is getting Zelda on the day of their console purchase either. I would say only you a select minority feel it’s “rude” or “offensive”.

          • Kenshin0011

            I’m not talking about months and years from now, I’m talking about NOW.
            And really, you got to admit that the attach rate of launch Switch’s and BoTW will be nearly 1 to 1.

            Maybe rude is not the best word. I think “inconsiderate” is more appropriate.

          • timZ117

            Lol, inconsiderate? this is a company selling you products. If you want the product, you buy it. Don’t want the product, don’t buy it. you just seem to be nagging because you either want the product and dont want to pay for it, or you don’t want to pay the price they are asking for it.

          • Kenshin0011

            Maybe you didn’t read what I said above?

            With Mario Kart 8 and Smash Bros, there were actual financial savings when you purchased all the DLC together.

            That’s not offered here, which again, is especially inconsiderate when so many of us are spending hundreds and hundreds of dollars on their Switch launch and $90 – $130 on the special or master editions of the game….

          • timZ117

            Yeah i got that, but how is that inconsiderate? You want to pay for the console and the game, you don’t have to in any way.

            Also, im just kinda chill about this because i truly believe the base game will have enough content already.

            Sure its a lot of money. When i look at my switch order im spending like 700 bucks to play zelda in a few weeks. But just because youre spending that money, nintendo does not owe you anything. So sorry for coming at you, but im kinda getting sick of a lot of the nintendo audience getting really entitled lately.

          • Kenshin0011

            It’s a shame because based on their past DLC bundles/deals, this one is the worst and least friendly to the consumer. I just was hoping they’d continue to be better than the competition with how they price the DLC.

          • Triforce of the Gods

            You really only save money on Smash DLC if you buy the 3DS + Wii U bundle. System specific bundles are the same price as buying the contents separately, minus getting charged tax each time.

  • GoldenTriforce

    I really don’t like this but if it’s a new story mode I guess I’ll have to get

  • NintendoPSXTheSecond

    I wonder if the new Story has us playing a different character?

    • Tlink7

      Don’t get too many expectations xD

      • NintendoPSXTheSecond

        Not really an expectation and more just a thought. Would match up with all the “WE WANT TO PLAY AS FEMALE LINK” nonsense. If anything, maybe a Sheik or Zelda story as DLC instead to appease the minority.

        • Tlink7

          I think it will just be an additional adventure for Link without too many (big) new assets like a new playable character. Just let some devs develop the DLC, so Aonuma and the majority of the BotW can go work on other things

        • ForeVision

          It still baffles me, how a misinterpretation has led to that being a thing. Reminds me of the Soleil situation /facepalm.

    • I could see it being a story revolving around Zelda.

      I hope it doesn’t have anything to do with that Fem Link crap though.

  • Marcelo Cardoso

    Please understand: Hero Mode is different of Hard Mode. Think on Hard Mode ir something like Master Quest. Bonus: imagine Hero Mode on HARD

  • awng781

    I’d suggest people take the wait and see approach before deciding whether this season pass is worth it or not. No need to be on either the “Screw this…cancelling my Zelda preorder” or the “Shut up and take my money” sides of the spectrum until we actually know exactly what the DLC has to offer.

    • ForeVision

      I point thee to Ser2k2″s post that outlines exactly what it has to offer.

      • NintendoPSXTheSecond
        • ForeVision

          There was no intent of being snarky there.

          • NintendoPSXTheSecond

            Sorry but it seemed so. When most people point to something without handing it themselves, it always indicates something of that sort.

          • ForeVision

            It was more of a “I do not take someone else’s glory”, since it was Ser2K2 that came with the picture, not I.

      • awng781

        “New hard mode”, “New story”, and “New dungeon” is extremely vague.

        I’d like to actually see the DLC content, like through a video or screenshots.

        • ForeVision

          True, it’s not the most visual of indications to say the least. Wait and see is the message.

    • Masso

      For what they have said it will be, and the 20 USD price, seems pretty good to me, also they spaced the packs a lot, so you actually have time to finish the game before they release the DLC.

  • Fredy Rodriguez Ortega

    Pleaseeee nintendo make a DLC where we visit Termina

  • awng781

    Maybe I’m just being optimistic, but when Nintendo says the DLC will include a “new hard mode” (as opposed to “the hard mode”), to me it seems like the game will already include a hard mode, and the DLC will add an either an even harder hard mode or a “different kind” of hard mode.

    • ForeVision

      Dark Souls mode, it will have you crawling to regain those rupees!

      • Cavalier

        Oh god no……………………

  • Riku0493

    Eh. The first DLC pack isn’t releasing until some time this Summer.

    You can hold off on your DLC purchase until we actually see what the heck is in them.

    The “day 1” bonus is like the alternate Yoshi and Shy Guy colors in Mario Kart 8 for buying/pre-ordering both DLC packs.

    • MusubiKazesaru

      Yeah, it’s basically to say “We know you bought this now and we appreciate that so he’s some immediate content even if it’s not the real stuff”.

    • Kenshin0011

      Regardless, it’s just another fun bonus that’s inaccessible unless you pay extra.

      It used to be that fun, “bonus feeling” content was included in the game and unlocked when you achieved something.

      But now Nintendo locks cool, albeit little, features behind amiibo…and they’re taking it a step further with this.

      • MusubiKazesaru

        This game is packed to the brim already, they’re just giving us even more on top of that if we want it.

        • Kenshin0011

          But it is still unfortunate that it has become standard now that fun little things like extra costumes or bonus items are no longer part of the original game, but are locked behind $15 plastic figurines or paid DLC.

          There used to be a time when special things like that were simply included for everyone.

          • ForeVision

            It’s hard to make a stand when it’s crept this far already. I guess one might as well make do with the lesser between evils.

          • Kenshin0011

            Definitely, I’m nowhere near myself, or agree with others, that are calling to boycott the game or cancel preorders.

            It’s not that big of a deal…just a little disappointing, but not a deal breaker.

          • ForeVision

            True, and they should’ve done this better. Nintendo is trying to get up with the times, yet they’ve apperantly not gotten the message, that announcing something DLC-related pre-launch is opening the doors to a wave of anger, even if they’re Nintendo. If they thought it’d be different, then I don’t know what to call that. Arrogance? Oversight? It’ll have a different name with different people.

          • Kenshin0011

            Tone deafness. This should have been announced at E3. The only reason they’re doing this now is to suck up extra money from enthusiasts on March 3rd.

          • MusubiKazesaru

            Extra Costumes or bonus items? The fact that you’re calling them extra means they weren’t part of the game to begin with. All we know is that we’re getting the Switch shirt and two other items from the chests and those are just unnecessary shows of faith that you get at least something day 1 if you pay for the pass. They could be anything. We don’t even know what the new amiibo do and at most you could say the Wolf Link is the only one with meaningful content being missed if you don’t have it and I do so it doesn’t matter.

            There used to be a time when developers just stopped when games were done. Instead we’re getting even more than that.

  • Jose

    I’m game for it. As long as it’s DLC done right, I’m more than willing to pay.

  • Lilla My

    Damn, it was not clear!
    From Zelda.com: “Starting when The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild launches on March 3, players will be able to purchase an Expansion Pass for $19.99, GRANTING ACCESS to TWO new sets of downloadable content for the game when they become available later this year.”

    Others (or everyone except me?) have noticed this before, but I just understood it now, the three treasure chests are in fact just an appetizer, the price is for the two DLCs.

    It’s still a bad move to announce it so soon, but the price is more OK, I guess…

  • O.H. X-1990

    Hero mode? That’s nothing new, it’s exactly the same as Hard mode! And New Story? You mean there’s more than just this Story mode? Is that even possible, there will be an “Epilogue”?

  • tHe_MaN_wItH_nO_hAnD

    The problem isn’t that there is DLC or even the cost of it, its that most Nintendo only gamers are not used to the “regular” dlc gouging. It’s not okay just because everyone else does it, but its to be expected and if we really want Nintendo to “get with the times” we have to take the bad with the good about current gaming. That being said at least it’s not 60$ but have to reserve judgement till it actually releases, could be good dlc like mario kart or questionable and excessive dlc like in smash

  • donut

    you guys complained and wanted nintendo to be more modern like its competitors. not sure if this is what you all had in mind, but looks like you got your wish.

    super disappointing news and a shame that we won’t be able to get the full experience day one, but i’ll still probably buy it because this game definitely looks like it’d be worth 80 bucks.

    • Cavalier

      99.99 bucks in my case.
      I’m actually ok with this, if Aonuma thinks there’s still stuff to do in this world then im all up for it, after all it is Zelda and more Zelda is always good.

  • Addy

    Day one DLC?!

    *smashes head on desk*

  • tHe_MaN_wItH_nO_hAnD

    I think for regular games/people, I.e. People who are not trolling forum boards like this won’t even care, heck most will probably be excited about even more Zelda thoug having to wait 4years

  • AJK

    It was good fun. I like a bit of challenge, and love cheeky AI haha

  • Lol, right? Treat yo self, 2k- Goin all out on the Switch release!

  • awng781

    I’m pretty sure Hero Mode will be in the base game, if people who have actually played the game are to be believed (they are), and a new kind of hard mode will come with the DLC.

  • Ser2k2

    Give me a second and listen to his opinion about the Zelda’s DLC packs.

  • ben

    $20 is a lot. For $20 I expect whole new land mass.. For $20 I expect a mini Majora`s Mask type game built into the Breath of the wild world.

    • AJK

      Why would you expect that? Majoras mask wasn’t $20, it was a full priced ($50) game, that you even had to buy a $20 RAM expansion to play…and that was in 2000, so those prices would be around $70 for the game and $35 for the RAM pack in modern money.

      • ben

        Because Majora was a DLC before DLC was a thing. And now we have good DLC like the Witcher 3 that for the same price are 10 hours of gameplay. Look at what Bethesda did with Wolfenstien he new order they had a 8 hour stand alone DLC for less than $20. $20 is the price of a good indie game. $20 has a precedent. If it is 1-2 hours of content and that is it that would be terrible. Darksouls 3 got ripped for having a 2-3 hour dlc for $10 not long ago and it contained many new elements and a whole new area.

        • AJK

          But Majoras Mask is also longer than 10 hours of gameplay. Wait and see what the dlc is before buying it and getting you knickers in a knot.

  • UltimaLuminaire

    Well, it’s easy to blur the line when you don’t have complete control over something you love (goes for pets, family, friends, and even games). Everyone’s on watch for mishandling and it’s going to include paranoia to some degree. That’s just how our brain works.

    For those of us taking the chill approach, it’s more just finding people we notice as even tempered and reaching out to them so we can all chill together lol

    • Erick Ferrer

      That’s an oxymoronic statement. In life the only thing you have control of is your “own” decisions, just like you have the decision to buy the content or not. Controlling how a game can be or wish how it would become? Get a degree in computers and gaming, and do your own. If your a consumer, your choice is to consume the option or not. Ignorance is spreading ridiculously I may add in every community, not only gaming I must say.

      • UltimaLuminaire

        You’re telling me lol

        It’s okay, man. They’ll forget about it later down the line. There’s always a better tomorrow.

  • Apfel

    We wanted nintendo to upgrade their business practices…here it is…(copypasting my own answer) Season pass, DLC, having to pay for freakin’ hard mode (or hero mode). Yes, this is bad. It’s not the same as the MK8 dls, done after the game, adding new tracks, new characters, or the Splaton DLC…this is before launch…in a way that makes your wonder…couldn’t they just add this to the game itself? If nintendo is taking elements naturally included on the final release of a game, and announce this before launch…this is bad.

    Not the DLC. If this is added to a finished game…that’s ok..but paying for a hard mode, DLC before launch…this is really bad. The idea of taking from the game and sold it separately, and all this for Zelda, makes me sick.

    • Evan Gustavson

      The game is finished. Launch is in two weeks. Copies are are already shipped out to retail by now. They’re already prepping to stock the shelves.
      So as far as they’re concerned, announcing it now is no different from announcing it on or after March 3.

  • Andrew

    “Damn Nintendo when will you get with the times? Maybe try to follow after Microsoft and Sony, they know how to do online right”
    “Here you go, paid online and day 1 DLC”
    “WTF Nintendo? Who’s asking for this? You’re just like the rest of them all you care about is money! You don’t care about your fans!”
    Nintendo can never do anything right apparently

  • Ektoras Kalderis

    Wow…an expansion pass….for a nintendo game. Hell has finally frozen. That’s it

    • AquaBat

      They’ve done it before though

      • Evan Gustavson

        Yeah, but they always let you buy packs separately.

  • TheVoidBat

    People complain about the DLC and compare it to companies like Activision and EA with their crazy season passes. This DLC is ONLY $20! Games like Call of Duty and Star Wars Battlefront have $50 season passes. Also, this is content that will be added onto a FULLY COMPLETE GAME. Games like Battlefront were incomplete on launch. We wouldn’t even get this extra content if it weren’t for this CHEAP DLC.

    • Evan Gustavson

      Agreed. I love DLC the way they’re handling it. I like a game, I want more out of the game, I can buy dlc to get more out of it.

      • So you love being offered DLC before a game is released? And being offered integreal game modes with that DLC?

        • AJK

          WHat gamme modes are integral and being offered as DLC? It a NEW hard mode.

          • No.

          • Eileen the Pizza Queen

            Nice comeback, bro.

            It really depends on what kind of “hard mode” this is. If it’s like Hero Mode where everything’s just mirrored and you take more damage, then you’re right, there’s absolutely no reason for it not to already be on the disc. But the simple fact that they’re actually charging for it makes me think it’ll actually have some things rearranged, like enemy layouts, harder versions of puzzles, possibly like Master Quest….but more competent. That actually would take time for them to develop, and I think it’s a fair move.

            I understand your line of thinking here though. “If they just held off on releasing this game for another year, they could’ve finished all of this and put it on the disc!” That’s faulty logic anyway, because game developers are businesses that have to release their games eventually or, you know, they won’t be able to afford developing games. Anything could theoretically be expanded on indefinitely if you held off forever, but that’s just not practical.

            Also, there’s the fact that this game was essentially promised to Wii U owners. I knew a girl who bought a Wii U solely to play the new Zelda when it came out, and she’s not getting a Switch! This game already took a tremendous amount of time to develop, and they got it in just under the wire, at the end of Nintendo’s support for the Wii U. It’s launching with what looks like one enormous – and wholly complete – quest. That seems entirely fair to me.

  • bigfootlover

    Oh be quiet whiners! Nintendo will give us a full 60-100 hour adventure alone, as they always do with Zelda for $48 bucks (Prime/Best Buy Gamers), less than a buck an hour and I still own a game worth $30 (Ebay, gamestop, craigslist) after I beat it, so if you sell or trade, $18 for an amazing game (or less than 50 cents per hour!)!
    I am DAMN ECSTATIC that Nintendo will offer more content in the future. For a measly $20!

    If you don’t want it, DONT BUY IT AND QUIT COMPLAINING!
    TAKE MY GOD DAMN MONEY NINTENDO!

  • Princessu Kenny

    1. Unless your buying the Wii U version,you are already dropping no less than $450 to play Zelda BotW, Nintendo should not be wanting more money
    2. Its too early to anounce DLC, the game hasnt even come out, THE CONSOLE HASNT EVEN RELEASED; I bet a DLC pass would have made much more sense both economically and creatively more down the road, once you have some real good and big story to add the game, not just 1 or 2 missions
    3. theres no way the DLC will satisfy anyone, on one hand the content sounds like it adds practically nothing making it not worth the money and in the other hand, if it results to be worth it,people will be angry for not being part of the game in the first place
    4. Hey Nintendo, if you already are planning on how to milk the cow, why not dual audio? I gladly would pay to play the game in its original audio with english subtitles

  • Fleming 007

    $20 for dlc pass isn’t bad considering this is Nintendo. We all know Nintendo likes to charge and arm and a leg for their stuff.

  • Locky Mavo

    Nice

  • And why is no one mentioning this doesn’t come the the Special or Ultimate Edition? Just Life FFXV numerous editions?

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Platform: SWITCHWII U
Genre: ACTIONADVENTURE
Publisher: Nintendo
Developer: Nintendo
Release date: March 3, 2017
OWN IT: 40 [I own this game]
BEAT IT: 22 [I beat this game]
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