Nintendo says handhelds still have a future, 3DS game development continuing, more - Nintendo Everything

Submit a news tip



Nintendo says handhelds still have a future, 3DS game development continuing, more

Posted on July 9, 2017 by (@NE_Brian) in General Nintendo, News, Switch

Coming out of E3, Paste published an interview with Doug Bowser, head of marketing at Nintendo of America. Much of the discussion focused on the handheld market.

During the talk, Bowser was asked about the future of handhelds, whether 3DS game development is continuing, and more. He also took on questions about the durability of Switch’s screen and whether there will be a crossover between 3DS and Switch features.

For a roundup of notable excerpts, continue on below. Paste’s full interview with Bowser is located here.

On the future of Nintendo handhelds as the Switch gains momentum as a combination handheld and home console…

Bowser: The Switch is off to a great start. We’ve seen people engaging the Switch in a number of different ways, and we’ve been given some raw data that I won’t get into, but across the spectrum, some never take it out of its cradle, others use it as a portable device, but a lot of people are right in the middle, with a balance between home and portable play. We absolutely believe there’s still a future in handheld, and so we’re investing in it. Couple things: you got an install global base of about 66 million units [for the 3DS]. We’re in the seventh year of the cycle. And we’re going to actually install another 6 million units this year. So that userbase will grow by 10% this year. We have a catalog of a thousand games. We’re launching the 2DS XL, which takes the best of the 2DS and the best of the XL, and brings it together for that user that doesn’t want a 3DS experience, but wants a sleeker clamshell based model. And it delivers that for $149. So, we’re still investing in hardware. And with the announcements you’ve seen this week, we’re obviously still investing in software too.

On whether development for the 3DS continuing at the same rate as in years past or has it slowed down in response to Switch…

Bowser: It’s continuing. Here’s the thing. The 3DS provides a different form of gameplay. We still have a two-screen model that the developers are building for. For example, with the Samus game, they’ll have the map on the bottom and the beautiful gameplay up top, so it’s a really neat opportunity to engage in a different style of gameplay, it can be in parallel with the Switch. They can both survive together.

On whether the next handheld will be another iteration of the 3DS, or a brand new handheld altogether…

Bowser: Right now the one we’re working on is the one we’re about to launch (New 2DS XL). I think time will tell. We’re only in the early stages of the Switch, we’ll see how the year plays out.

On how durable the Switch screen is…

Bowser: The device is very durable. Have you seen the YouTube video of the guy flying a drone and dropping it from a thousand feet? It survives. So the screen is fantastic. We do recommend that you take normal precautions. I’ve got a little shield and it works fantastic. And I always recommend a carrying case.

On whether 3DS / Switch features will cross over like StreetPass…

Bowser: Well when we launched the Switch our focus was just on creating a great gaming machine. There are a lot of features that could be added to the Switch, and we’re looking at that to see what else we can put on it, based on fan request and what player are looking for. So, we got a lot of runway in front of us and the important thing to remember is, we’re only in month 3. It’s still very early.

Leave a Reply

  • Kalmaro

    The 3ds is great and all but I can’t help but feel like any future 3ds game would have been better on the Switch.

    Can you imagine the metroid 2 remake on the Switch? It would have looked glorious.

    • JasonBall

      no

      • Kalmaro

        Yes

      • Jimmy Boy

        keep playing your tech from 2011, I’ll happily play my HD games from 2017 on the go!

        • number of switch games actually from 2017: two

          • R.Z.

            Come on, I can think of four at least !

          • arms and zelda
            what’s the other two

          • R.Z.

            Just Dance (2018 !) and Super Bomberman R !
            XD
            Seriously though by the end of the year the number of new games will be totally decent.

        • JasonBall

          So will I! Because I have and use both regularly!

      • wouldve looked better on wiiu

        • JasonBall

          Yes, in this case, I agree.

    • ジョシュ

      I strongly disagree….you’re whining because you didn’t get a metroid remake for the switch…..

      They are making an actual great brand new metroid game for the switch! stop whining!

      • Kalmaro

        Please point out where I actually whined. All I made was an observation, the metroid 2 remake would have looked better and likely played better on the Switch. Is there something wrong with that statement?

        • ジョシュ

          You’re complaining/whining because nintendo is still supporting the 3DS. “I can’t help but feel like any future 3ds game would have been better on the Switch” …like Doug said: “The 3DS provides a different form of gameplay” that’s the part that you seem to don’t understand besides the 3ds has an user base of 66+ Ms, the switch doesn’t. The switch is still very new. It doesn’t have many games yet but they’re definitely working on it.

          • Kalmaro

            I believe you are overreacting. Yeah I don’t agree with Nintendo still focusing so much on the 3ds but that is not whining. At some point that will have to let the 3ds go and focus on the Switch. I feel they should go all hands on deck and make sure the Switch lineup is as robust as possible. I want to Switch to succeed.

            Though we will need more stock first.

          • ジョシュ

            We all know nintendo at some point will stop supporting the 3ds.. That’s not something new.. They aren’t making games for the nes anymore, right? they aren’t making games for the gameboy, the ds, etc… all consoles have a lifespan. We KNOW they’ll stop supporting it but nintendo decided to keep supporting it a little bit more. What’s wrong with that? we’re still getting great games on both consoles. Stop complaining and enjoy your games.

          • Kalmaro

            Again, I did not complain. I did not criticize anything they did. You, however, have been complaining to me non stop. I didn’t even say Nintendo should stop making games for the 3ds. You’re letting your own anger keep you from even reading what I said.

          • ジョシュ

            I’m not angry XD I’ll stop complaining to u and I’ll go to play ever oasis a little bit more before going to sleep. You should do the same. Bye.

          • Kalmaro

            Alright then, you just came off as pretty antagonistic. Enjoy Ever Oasis though, I’m loving it.

          • Jimmy Boy

            they will in 2018, especially if Game Freak really does put a mainline Pokemon game on Switch. Once they do that, it tells all these 3DS fanboys your systems’s days are numbered, Pokemon is the only reason the 3DS is even alive right now, Go revitalized a dying system.

          • Kalmaro

            Yeah seriously. Once Switch gets Pokémon what more could the 3ds do?

          • Jimmy Boy

            No, it has 66 million SHIPPED, this is a PR guy who’s going to assume all shipped systems have been sold, and when I walk into Target or GameStop or Walmart, I see plenty of 3DS systems on shelves, so they don’t have a 66 million install base, which is a heavily skewed number to begin with, because most 3DS owners, especially collectors, have multiple systems. Proof comes in the attach rate (number of games sold for every system sold). If the install base was really 66 million, with over 1,000 games made, it’d have sold more games than it has- the NES with 62 million sold 500 million games, and the 3DS with 66 million systems SHIPPED, sold about 330 million.

        • Bart

          “Looking better” is relative though, nothing looks better than stereoscopic 3D done right in my opinion.

          • Kalmaro

            I’ve been ignoring 3d in pretty much every 3ds game. It always looks a bit blurry. Even with my new 3ds. I’ll settle for crisp 2D work over 3d for now.

    • For the love of… again not every developer has the money to do an HD game you also have to consider this, should they take that gamble. It’s better to be safe 1st than take the gamble once you have made a profit, (in Nintendo’s case 66+ million users = extra source of revenue) and no most of the 3ds games would not work well on switch because of the duel screen experience, this bull about this 3ds game should have been on switch is dumb, I have been seeing people say that on most new 3ds announcements/localization like really. Oh this game should be on switch even thought it must have been in development for like 3 years nah F it let’s waste the money that was put towards it and put it on switch 😛 also the switch is getting a prime game so there is no reason for a complain 😛

      • Kalmaro

        This is Nintendo, Im sure they have plenty of money to do what they want.

        Not only that but you completely missed the point of my comment, I specifically said future games. Metroid 2 is just an example I picked because it looka wonderful but the game is already practically finished. I wouldn’t ask them to drop everything and start trying to port it.

        Even if we were talking about the metroid 2 remake, that would have would system’s on the Switch if they did make it just for that system. People have been clamoring for another metroid game for years… And no, federation force does not count.

        You seem really agitated. Just look over my post again, I’m not saying anything is wrong about the metroid game, I just said it would have looked nicer. In any case, it’s hard to find games that make a revolutionary use if the second screen. That’s said, my comment was geared more towards future games.

        Also, I never said anything should be on the Switch, I just said I felt games would be better on the Switch now and that Metroid 2 would have looked nicer.

        • lol what rage? Do you know the difference between annoyance and rage? And you can’t say federation force does not count since it does it’s a spinoff, that was meant to tie to a future game, and plays like the prime games are you gonna deny that your gonna deny the Federation force existence 😛 but I don’t think you would know that unless you read the interviews 😛 And again there is already a Metroid game coming to switch so there was no point for your reply.

          • Kalmaro

            Nobody really wanted federation force. It was a decent game but it just didn’t feel like a good metroid game. That’s why I wasn’t counting it.

            Also, this site is made for news and discussion. Chatting is kinda what happens here.

          • Don’t talk for Metroid fans, since you don’t represent them saying nobody is not really true unless you said “most” people dint.

          • Kalmaro

            I think “nobody” works just fine, you get the point. It was a clear exaggeration.

      • Jimmy Boy

        Except it’s not really 66 million users, you’re ASSuming that people never bought a second system, which is totally untrue given the massive amount of versions of this thing (7, more than any past home or handheld console). Proof comes in attach rate (number of games sold for every system sold). The NES sold 62 (about) million systems, and 500 million games. The 3DS is 66 million SHIPPED, and has about 330 million games. If it was really 66 million, they’d be close to the NES in software sales, and they’re not even close!

        • How am assuming people never bought a second system when did I say something to indicate that all I said was that there were 66+mill don’t try and put words in my mouth. And you’re Comparing a handhelds attach rate to home consoles even thought you fail to factor in the way the market has changed over they years lol I am not even sure why you even tried to bring those numbers up.

        • Tide

          Your point makes no sense. Not only are you comparing two consoles that are radically different in so many aspects, but you clearly ignore the fact that attach rate is a statistic because not all consoles sell the same amount of games.

          If you are going to compare the 3DS to anything, you should compare it to the previous handhelds and that’s where you’ll see your argument is wrong.

          Game Boy (4 versions) Attach Rate: 4.22
          Game Boy Advance (3 versions) Attach Rate: 4.63
          DS (4 versions) Attach Rate: 6.12
          3DS (6 versions, 2 generations) Attach Rate: 5.5

          3DS attach rate is in line with the previous handhelds and doesn’t suggest that an excessive amount of ppl are buying the 3DS twice.

    • Jimmy Boy

      except that’s all Nintendo is allotting to barely keep 3DS alive. Look at E3, they’re all remade games, ports, or games announced earlier- or localizations. Clearly it’s not getting top tier development, not witht= these crappy games!

      • Kalmaro

        The new metroid game looks fantastic and ever oasis is pretty good. I wouldn’t say either are crappy.

      • R.Z.

        Third parties are still pretty lively on 3DS though.

  • Pachirisu

    why won’t they kill off the 3DS already? Who cares about the close to 70 million install base ready to buy games, nintendo is stupid and must hate money! Grrrahhh

    • Rafael Bueno

      Because what if Switch doesn’t sell anymore? also 3DS still has a Strong fanbase

      • JasonBall

        Jokes

    • DonSerrot

      It’s Nintendo playing it safe. The 3DS has been Nintendo’s strength for the past few years and it’d be foolish to kick it to the curb for something new, especially when the last new thing they put out was the Wii U and that didn’t go so well. I give the 3DS another year or two of token games before Nintendo is done with it and then they should go full steam ahead with the Switch and stick to having a single hybrid console going forward.

      • JasonBall

        He was joking

    • JasonBall

      Ikr they so need to die now that there’s 4k gaming

      • Tlink7

        Careful there Jason, Microsoft might send their lawyers after you

        • JasonBall

          Wait why I was insulting Nintendo

          • Tlink7

            You mentioned their patented 4K 😛

          • JasonBall

            Oh yeah whoops should I edit the comment

    • Jimmy Boy

      except it’s not really 70 million install base, look at the attach rate (number of games sold for every system sold). This has 66 million systems SHIPPED, and about 330 million games sold. The NES had 62 million systems, and sold over 500 million games. If this install base was really bigger than the NES with over 1,000 games made, it’d have the same number of games sold, and it doesn’t, because people bought multiple systems, especially since this is the only console handheld or home, that has 7 different variants! The true install base is likely closer to 30 or 40 million, not close to 60 million, not with so few games sold.

      • Carlos

        Why do you keep bringing up these numbers every chance you get? Nobody cares.

    • JJ

      Are you a business executive? Then why would they kill an almost 70 million market? That’s money in the bank for any good games released now and in the future.

  • awng782

    I do think 3DS sales will decline to the point where Nintendo will be forced to shift all focus onto the Switch, and I think that will also coincide with the point when Nintendo is the to do the price of the Switch by at least $50.

    • Jimmy Boy

      look at Japan as an example of that. You know in Japan home consoles sell like crap, right? Well, the PS4 has consistently outsold the 3DS week after week, and yeah, Switch is dominating, but it goes Switch, PS4, 3DS, Vita, so when the PS4 a home console outsells the 3DS in a country where home consoles sell poorly, you know it’s shrinking!

      • awng782

        I mean, it has been well over 6 years for the 3DS, when sales will begin to fade due to old age. The PS3 was comfortably outselling the DS after the DSs first 6 years.

        But yeah, the 3DS is fading, and it is only inevitable that Nintendo will be forced to stop supporting due to fading interest, no matter how much they currently want to support the 3DS..

      • Aline Piroutek

        PS4 is selling in Japan because everyone already has a 3DS and a Vita. PS4 was the next option.

  • Pepperkeet

    Stop Nintendo… after 2018 noone is buying 3DS over a switch…
    specially when the line up will be so robust there’s just no reason to…

    • Jimmy Boy

      and Pokemon will likely come out that year. They said to expect their next mainline game on Switch in more than a year, so I suspect late 2018 is when it’ll launch, and by that point, kiss 3DS goodbye, people primarily bought it for Pokemon, especially after Go revitalized the brand.

    • Velen (Not WoW)

      They will not stop.

  • AquaBat

    Incoming crying! Deploy the Whine Shield!

    • Ashleyasmith

      Managing director of Google says we are paying $97 per hour! Work for few hours and have longer with friends & family^hp146:
      On tuesday I got a great new Ford F-150 from having earned $8752 this last four weeks.. Its the most-financialy rewarding I’ve had.. It sounds unbelievable but you wont forgive yourself if you don’t check it ,,,,Then check this out
      ~xg146:
      ➽➽
      ➽➽;➽➽ http://GoogleFinancialJobsCash436HomeProgram/GetPay$97/Hour ★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★:::::~xg146o….

    • Aline Piroutek

      Deploy the SPAM shield

      • Fredy Rodriguez Ortega

        it does not work do a Barrel Roll !

  • ジョシュ

    There’s definitely future in handhelds. Sadly, there’s still people that don’t understand the “The 3DS provides a different form of gameplay” part. I think nintendo is still developing its next handheld. They need time to blow our minds with another unique machine so I guess they decided to keep supporting the 3ds until they are ready to move on to the new handheld. Besides, there’s no real reason for them to stop supporting a device with an install global base of 66+ M’s.

    • JasonBall

      Duh, because 3ds is dead and all 3ds games would be better on Switch, dontcha know?

      *Joke*

    • Kalmaro

      Well the next Pokémon game is coming to Switch. When that game drops the 3ds is probably going to be officially dead.

      • Jimmy Boy

        Those are the 3DS’s highest selling games, so you put them on Switch, the 3DS is as good as dead. All Nintendo’s doing is trying to prevent an early death for 3DS, but come on a mainline Pokemon game on Switch will easily kill 3DS.

    • Fore

      Do tell, what does the 3DS provide that the Switch does not, other than dual-screens, something that can be worked around?

      • Velen (Not WoW)

        Stereoscopic 3D, better portability, longer battery life without a battery pack, and right now? An utterly massive library of games, even if you ignore the shovelware.

        Seriously, stop trying to downplay or ignore the obvious, Fore, you’re better than this.

        • Fore

          Have a few of my days, and then come back and not get annoyed enough to fire such comments, but that aside, let me tell you a story of what happened to me a while ago, and tell me what you’d say:

          A man of my cable company came by to install some stuff, and as he was a gamer, he saw my Switch and asked me if it was worth the purchase, with it having so few games and not that many must-haves. I couldn’t argue his point, and said that BotW helped, but that’s all I could muster.

          It may take time for the Switch to get into it’s own, but right now every little bit helps, so time spent on the already good and massive 3DS feels a bit wasted in that aspect, don’t you think? But that aside, portability doesn’t matter to me, so I didn’t think that battery life thing mattered all that much, especially not in the vein of the Switch offering “console quality” games.

          • Velen (Not WoW)

            Being blunt, Fore, I would’ve told him that while there are a lot of
            ports, a lot of them are worth the money if you haven’t bought them
            before on the Wii U. Cases in point being Shovel Knight, Mario Kart 8,, andPokken Tournament DX coming up in September, then there’s the Neo Geo games that were never on the Wii U, and then
            there’s the non-ported titles like Snipperclips, Splatoon 2 and ARMS.

            Overall point being that guy’s point is fundamentally wrong by now. The Switch has plenty of good games to choose from, it’s a matter of what your tastes are at this point, so whether or not the Switch is worth the money is, oxymoronic as it sounds: factually and objectively, subjective.

            As for whether or not time spent on the 3DS is wasted. See my previous post at the bottom of the comments. You and everyone else who are saying Nintendo needs to stop supporting the 3DS just because the Switch is around are basically saying “You’ve had enough success, move over!”

            Even, as ronin4life has said, the 3DS is the only console that in recent memory has had growth year over year, even as it has an attach rate of 5.45, as another poster mentioned, which suggests many people have not bought systems in the family twice, which bolsters the near 70 million install base, and even as, as of the last fiscal year, the 3DS makes up half of Nintendo’s current profits.

            Being frank: you’re all being asinine. The Nintendo 3DS is still doing well regardless, and you’re telling Nintendo to throw it away while it is still seeing success in the market, even with the Switch being around.

          • Fore

            Hold your horses Velen. I never said they’d need to stop supporting the 3DS, quote me where I said that? I’m saying Switch needs more help to continue on track, than 3DS needs to maintain it, that is all.

            3DS can continue, I don’t care frankly. My Switch is a home-console to me, and it never leaves it’s dock. But we’ll see, the Switch will probably get more love as time goes on, and I’ll be one to make sure third-parties get their purchase on the system at least. Hopefully that 10 million of Kimishima’s holds true.

          • Velen (Not WoW)

            Sorry for lumping you in with the others then. I had just woken up when I replied.

          • Fore

            No worries, just to clarify things 😛

    • R.Z.

      Switch is (part) handheld, so let’s hope there is a future for these things.
      About the different Gameplay … it’s sure been downplayed since the 3DS introduced a disparity between both screens.
      I love having two screens, i wish the Switch somehow kept that feature, but it’s been dropped in favor of parity with other machines by Nintendo themselvesso that’s how things are rolling from now on.
      And having another handheld to compete with the Switch (unless it is a smaller form factor of the Switch) wouldn’t be a very wise move.
      A new machine would have to be very close to Switch in terms of power, would thus require as much investment to make games on, dividing Nintendo’s software production capacity once again (which cost Nintendo a a whole lot in the previous gen), plus it would undermine the Switch’s best selling point. I really don’t see that happening.

      • Lee Jones

        Yeah, but there needs to be something. The handheld market is far from dead. The continued interest in DS/3DS/2DS is proof of that. It’s a no brainer the 3DS will wind down eventually, but despite what everybody says, the Switch DOES NOT provide the same type of play as the 3DS. It’s different, like it or not. The potential problem I see, is that once the 3DS does end, and Nintendo does consolidate everything to the Switch, the handheld market will shrink. The type of people that play a 3DS now are not necessarily the same type to play a Switch later. If they see the Switch is their only option, there is no guarantee they’ll agree to jump on that bandwagon.

        • R.Z.

          The Switch does provide a portable experience though, there’s really nothing to make it different from a handheld once outside of the dock. If they make a smaller model in a year or two there’s just no reason why it wouldn’t be a perfect successor for the 3DS. As processing power goes the next handheld would have to be in the same waters as Switch anyway, so there’s just no reason to divide the market once again while you can have the “all-in-one” Nintendo experience, and I’m pretty sure that’s why people are actually buying the Switch, nobody believes it’s supposed to be a home console.

          • Lee Jones

            That still doesn’t mean everybody will suddenly agree to spend $300 for a handheld.

          • R.Z.

            Which is the reason the 3DS is still around for a bit.

    • Matthew Grant

      Yeah, I can’t wait for the 4kDS, It’s going to be great

  • Rafael Bueno

    my god guys, stop complaining over the 3DS that he should die

  • DonSerrot

    I’m both happy and sad Nintendo is continuing to invest in the 3DS. Even though it had a rough start it found it’s place and took off. It’d be foolish to just kick it to the curb while it’s still doing well. It was playing it safe making sure the 3DS still had some love while the Switch launched just in case the public didn’t respond well to the Switch just like the Wii U before it. That said, the Switch is off to a fantastic start without signs of slowing down any time soon so they should have nothing to worry about. They can safely spend a year or two winding down the 3DS releases and hopefully not bring out a 3DS followup. There’s no reason for them to have a dedicated handheld machine once the 3DS retires, the Switch’s hybrid style is Nintendo’s future and they need to roll with that going forward.

    • Jimmy Boy

      once Pokemon goes to Switch, you can begin the death knell for the 3DS. That was the game that revitalized the system last year after 3 straight years of decline, and that’s because of Pokemon Go being so huge, lining up perfectly with Sun and Moon. Once that franchise goes to Switch, the 3DS won’t have anything big to support it, and it’ll drop like a boulder in the ocean.

  • GoldenTriforce

    So Nintendo will likely focus on more dual-screen or lower scale titles on the 3DS now? Thats fine for me, if they want to wait until Switch sells more to fully switch over, thats okay, but 3DS can’t last forever. It will eventually lose its momentum, as all consoles do, and by then, a $200 handheld would, power and screen wise, be a Switch. I can see the best route for them being a handheld-styled switch with a smaller form-factor, and with many of their handheld development teams, as well as third party handheld dev teams, starting to switch over to the Swtich, I can see Nintendo making the Switch their main handheld in the future, even if only because they have to.

    • GoldenTriforce

      Also I should point out that I am in no way upset that the 3DS is getting life after the Switch came out, this is normal for any Nintendo handheld and there are games like MonHun Stories and Pikmin that I am looking forward to. Its just that the 3DS can only be profitable for so long, and that a new handheld would be illogical if it would be in every shape and form a Switch.

      • Kalmaro

        Good thing you said that, people on here will jump on you of they think you are bad mouthing the 3ds.

    • Jimmy Boy

      it’s already lost momentum. Walk into any GameStop or Target, and you’ll find plenty of 3DS systems on shelves, but no Switch’s. Switch clearly took its thunder, and the New 2DS XL is Nintendo’s way to TRY to keep it relevant, but good luck! You’ve got a system using 2011 technology versus a system using 2017 technology!

      • ronin4life

        3ds was the only system last year to see year over year growth. Intrest *grew* in 3ds.

        • To say nothing of the amazing software sales as well.

  • TanukiTrooper

    I’m fine with them supporting the 3DS until it’s done and dusted. But what I don’t want to see is a new handheld system. I am much happier with the Switch being the one ecosystem for Nintendo going ahead. As they have pointed out, some use the console solely as a handheld, some as a home console and the rest as a hybrid. The Switch ticks all boxes. Introducing a new handheld when the Switch has a strong install base would just make the new handheld instantly redundant.

    • Lee Jones

      Not everyone can shell out $500 for a new console. A dedicated handheld fills that niche. Nintendo is not stupid enough to cut off an entire potential userbase.

      • R.Z.

        The Switch is supposedly $300 unless you get it from scalpers …
        Of course it’s still much more than a 2DS.

        • It depends on the country, but yeah, it should be closer to $300.

      • Blackbishop

        In my country you can buy it in stores at $600 and good luck trying to find it cheaper and new. At least it is offered with monthly payments without interest.

        Of course, you can buy it in Amazon a bit cheaper (~$500), but nothing else is offered(only free shipping I guess), so good luck giving that amount in a single payment in the next month unless you want to earn more debt by adding the interest rate of the credit card by just paying the minimum. Not sure if Prime users have different rules.

        I’d want to buy a Switch, but it is out of reach to me. I don’t expect it to find it cheaper in the next years either in retail. Wii U always cost ~$480 until it was removed from shelves, and not even when they had the last ones the price dropped so I expect the same treatment. I have nothing against Nintendo though, I know these prices are set by the stores themselves.

        I was close to buy it in Amazon several weeks ago due to some promotion they had in the site, but I had bought a PS4(~$350) by that time so my budget was tight. Maybe next time.

  • Tlink7

    The GBA was supposed to exist along side the DS, the Wii U was supposed to exist along side the Switch… we’ll see, Nintendo 😉

    • Fore

      Makes you wonder: Did they as fervently maintain the continuation of a device like this before, with what could arguably be called it’s successor rising?

      • Tlink7

        I personally think Nintendo is just finishing the 3DS projects that are currently running whilst pretending the 3DS ”has a long life ahead of it” so (more) people will buy the 2DS XL. They’ll monitor the Switch’ success and either do more 3DS games if it is disappointing or less if it isn’t

        • Fore

          As far as I know the thing (Switch) isn’t slowing in sales any time soon.

    • ronin4life

      GBA was rendered fully irrelevant by a backwards compatible ds and the fact ds sales took off like a rocket: devs, including Nintendo, might as well have just shifted any GBA development to DS. Even still GBA managed to hold onto new games for a decent amount of time after DS released.

      People on here aren’t wrong to point out DS and WiiU statements from Nintendo, but I would like to point out also that these situations really were wholly different.

      • Tlink7

        I know the GBA/Wii U/3DS situations aren’t exactly the same, but I was more trying to point out Nintendo isn’t a paragon of truth. The company obviously isn’t going to be like ”yeah 3DS is almost done” just before the 2DS XL launches xD

  • Paddy Alfan

    I think that 3ds won’t sit well with switch. Look at ps4 and PS Vita. Or the prrvious wii u. And 3ds.
    Games that’s developed for both ecosystem tend to: disappointing graphically for the consoles and / or ran poorly with the handheld.
    And with the power difference widen between 3ds and switch, that going to make it even worse.
    Also I won’t hold of what nintendo said about past hardware.
    Here’s they ensure us that wii u production is still alive and kicking, only to announce the end of production one week later

    http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2016/11/nintendo_insists_that_wii_u_production_will_continue_beyond_this_week
    http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2016/11/nintendo_confirms_wii_u_production_is_coming_to_a_close

    • ronin4life

      WiiU production ended because no one was buying them anymore. 3ds saw growth in sales Year over year: people are not only still buying the system but it managed to see an increase in consumer demand even after all this time.

      • R.Z.

        And no one was buying WiiU anymore because Nintendo very intently killed it off while it could have continued growing quietly after the successes of Splatoon and Super Mario Maker had Nintendo been willing to try (let’s not forget the end year shortages in 2015).
        Give the 3DS the same treatment WiiU got in 2016 (which would actually be harder to do since there is third party support on that console) and then they can stop producing it because no one is buying them anymore the very same year.

  • YamiryuuZero

    Stop, Nintendo! The 3DS is already 6 years old, it’s at the end of its life, and with the Switch being a hybrid, they end up competing for the same market! For every game made for the 3DS, it’s a possible new market for the Switch you’re neglecting! Stop with this home console/handheld mentality and move to a single platform for all your games! This is the premise of the Switch after all, a single platform that can play Zelda, Pokemon, Mario, Fire Emblem, all the home console and portable games!

    Let 2017 and early 2018 be the last of the 3DS and shift your focus 100% on the Switch! The Switch is the future of your company, not the 3DS.

    • Tide

      Gameboy had 14 years, GBA had 9 years and DS had 10 years in their lifespans. On top of that the GBA and the DS were both in the same market for 6-7 years. It’s possible, if not likely, that the 3DS will be around for a few years still. Especially since the Switch doesn’t have reverse compatibility.

    • Capucha verde

      Who cares how old the 3DS is? Age is not a good reason to kill a console. The 3DS is a great handheld and is still selling good, so it STAYS. Stop whining, seriously.

    • Velen (Not WoW)

      See Tide’s comment.

  • Aline Piroutek

    Simple:
    Games with cool usage of the dual screen goes to 3DS.
    Old-School games with only one screen goes to Switch.

    Shadows of Valentia show how good the second screen is used and why a Switch version would be inferior.

  • I personally still crave that 2 screen experience and obviously NIntendo thinks the 3ds still has some life in it to milk out so all is good.

    • Tide

      I definitely think some games work better with dual screen. “The World Ends With You” is still one of my favourite games because I was really into the idea of getting good enough to play both screens. As of lately though, it seems devs aren’t trying to find clever ways to use the 2nd screen. Most games the 2nd screen is just map and menu lately.

    • ronin4life

      Love the 2 screen setup. It really came into its own on 3ds with the increase in graphical power over DS.

      I will be sad to see it not continued in the future.

  • Good enough for me. I’ll say it will be 3 yrs to 2020 for the 3DS to pass on. Hopefully by then people, then, can finally stop complaining about the 3DS stealing the Switch’s spotlight.

    This 3ds hate really took off quick after the Switch’s reveal and release. And still going strong.

  • Manuel Ruiz Segura

    Well, I do hope that Nintendo support the 3DS for a bit longer… Next week I’m buying a New 2DS XL and that is going to be my first Nintendo portable since the Game Boy Advance… So I hope Nintendo keeps the 3DS alive and well for, at least, a couple more years.

  • Lee Jones

    Here’s something that nobody here seems to realize, though: yeah, the Switch is a hybrid and all, but, it is very clearly geared more toward being a home console that you can happen to take with you sometimes. The Switch is NOT, let me make this very clear, a handheld that you can plug into a tv.
    There is a clear difference. Yes, the Switch is getting a mainline Pokemon game. That does not make the Switch a handheld.
    This might sound cliched, but there ARE types of games that lend themselves better to a true dedicated handheld than they do to a hybrid console like the Switch. Until the Switch can reach the point of being able to match the true portability and lower price point of a dedicated handheld, then the market for a handheld will remain.

    • Reggie

      How people treat the Switch is purely subjective. I, for one, purely use the Switch as a handheld. So for me personally, I treat it more as a “handheld that you can plug into a tv”.

      But I’m not going to treat my viewpoint as fact, and neither should you.

      • Lee Jones

        I think you’re missing my point entirely.
        The Switch is being marketed as a handheld, sure, but at the price of a full blown home console. Considering the thing is selling like gangbusters, that is clearly a profitable market segment.
        That said, the Switch is not yet able to fill the niche that, say, the Gameboy filled, that of a lower cost alternative for folks who can’t fork over $300 to get a console.
        In order for Nintendo to recapture their entire audience going forward, they will eventually need a cheaper alternative for the Switch. Maybe a Switch Mini. Who knows.

        • Reggie

          I don’t really see a Switch Mini happening. I mean, detachable controllers and being able to plug to the TV are both core features of the Switch.

          I mean, I could see them selling a cheaper pack that doesn’t include the dock and HDMI cable. But the detachable controllers are every bit necessary.

          • Lee Jones

            If not a Switch Mini, Nintendo will have to do something before too long. Prior to now, their marketing has been two-fold: Lower priced handheld, and more expensive home console. If they don’t want to lose a segment of their market, then they’re gonna have to somehow convince predominantly handheld buyers to hand over more money for something they’re accustomed to spending less for.
            Can Nintendo do that? Only time will tell.

          • Reggie

            The 3DS also had difficulty when it first launched. Not very many people wanted one when the DS was still a thing. It’s only when they started releasing more quality games and saw a price drop that it finally took off. This is natural for the early life of any new console or handheld.

          • Lee Jones

            That said, I myself do want a Switch, quite a lot, but the steep price and difficulties with finding it have proven to be insurmountable odds.

  • ronin4life

    “… install global base of about 66 million units [for the 3DS]. We’re in the seventh year of the cycle. And we’re going to actually install another 6 million units this year. So that userbase will grow by 10% this year. ”

    …And people want them to *stop* supporting the system?
    ~72 million people will want more games, clearly even more people will want 3ds systems as well.

    We have a problem already in this industry with systems not recieving enough support or companies ditching valued customers for marginal gains in hardware upgrades that cost hundreds to purchase that has killed intrest in the industry and resulted in the closure of dozens of studios during the Wii era… If the darn thing is still successful it makes no sense to stop for anyone involved

  • shani

    Well obviously they believe in the handheld market, otherwise they wouldn’t have produced the Switch.
    They can tell us it’s a hybrid all they want, but the Switch is still just a handheld with HDMI-out.
    The fact that I use my Switch exclusively in docked-mode doesn’t change that.

    • ronin4life

      What it does change is people perspectives towards it on the market place. And that can make a lot of difference to people…

  • Brown Rose

    The 3DS experience still has more to offer on the go, serious, and casual gamers. I have upgraded continually since the original DS. I hope they continue to provide great games for a few more years. Its a great system with a huge library of old and current games.

  • Reggie

    Just give me Yo-Kai Watch 3 and I’ll be good with the 3DS.

  • Velen (Not WoW)

    I find it absolutely hilarious that people refuse to use their heads to try to wrap their heads around why Nintendo is going to continue to (for now) support the 3DS.

    There are clear difference between the Switch and the 3DS, and people are just like “the Switch makes the 3DS obsolete” without realizing that Nintendo, despite what all the people who want to be contrarian will say, marketed this thing as a home console first and foremost.

    You can point to the reveal trailer for the Switch all year long, but that will not change that fact. Yes a lot of the video showed the Switch on the go, but you’re also willfully forgetting that they also showed the aspect of plugging the Switch back into a TV in order to continue playing it, on a TV. That makes it pretty clear that is an important feature, no matter how often they showed it being taken around.

    The Switch is a hybrid. Get over it. It does not offer the same gameplay experience that the 3DS does no matter how much to try to boil down the two just to try to make things fit your narrative that Nintendo must stop supporting the 3DS.

    As ronin4life pointed out the 3DS has shown growth year over year, even with the Switch’s inclusion recently. What makes you seriously think they are just going to stop developing for 3DS because the Switch is around?

    Also, Pokemon on the Switch is not going to be enough. We don’t even know what it’s going to look like yet, or what changes to the mechanics or formula, if any, will be present on the Switch game. It could possibly end up being a surprisingly different entry in the franchise, something different from what the 3DS / Handheld line of games offers.

    Although it wasn’t a 3DS title. Lemme remind you of The World Ends With You. It was an awesome game that made full use of the two screens the DS offered. That’s but one example of a different gameplace experience that Switch cannot do, due to it’s lack of a dedicated stylus.

    You all are just trying to downplay the 3DS and say “It’s had enough success, move over!” Do you even listen to yourselves and maybe thing you’re full of it?

    Getting so sick of this moronic crap.