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Xenoblade Chronicles 2 Expansion Pass announced

Posted on November 7, 2017 by (@NE_Brian) in News, Switch

Update: Nintendo’s recap announcement for the Direct confirms a price of $30.


Original: Nintendo has announced an Expansion Pass for Xenoblade Chronicles 2. By purchasing it, you’ll gain access to new content due out over the next year.

Here’s the full lineup of content:

Support items for your journey – December 2017
New quests for the main game – January 2018
New rare Bade – Spring 2018
New Challenge Battle Mode – Summer 2018
New Story and Adventure – Fall 2018

The Xenoblade Chronicles 2 Expansion Pass was just made known during today’s Nintendo Direct. A side quest involving Rex’s costume for Zelda: Breath of the Wild was also announced.

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  • StrawhatEevee

    Not sure how I feel about this one. I’ll pick up the game, but DLC doesn’t seem too important for this. Hopefully they detail pricing and such more before launch.

  • Adrián Alucard

    why launch the complete game if they can just cut appart some pieces and earn more money?

    • KnightWonder

      Dude, they game is already massive. Plus, a lot of this stuff is probably still being worked on.

      • Adrián Alucard

        Well, Nintendo can just delay the game and release it when it’s completed

        • Ryan

          That makes no financial sense, this game is finished, anything else is extra.

          • Adrián Alucard

            it’s not completed if it have DLCs

            look at the game title

            http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/bin/i0sqABIhuhmWIqxNnYC-GnhfhS__UwtT/L3kH3aztyUDm4UmjLjeUA7n72Rdx-5NA.png

            Why it says “complete”? Well, because the game have all the DLCs included.

          • Ryan

            Yes, but there is always more you can add to a game. A game is never “complete”. Developers always have ideas that can’t make it into the game.

          • GoldenTriforce

            Yeah, if this DLC was announced in 2 months would this be the reaction? The game probably just finished, this is when DLC likely begins development. If in 2 years they announce more DLC because they have more ideas does the game become incomplete again?

          • Ryan

            People would still react the same way in 2 months, haha. People just have this grudge against DLC that EA honestly created.

          • Adrián Alucard

            just use those unused ideas to make a proper sequel or a new game. Is how Aonuma (and most developers) worked.

            “I just made this incredible temple but due to time constrains It didn’t ended in Zelda 5*, but we added it in Zelda 7*”

            *I didnd’t wanted to add subtitles so I put numbers instead

          • LinkMaster111

            Except, you know, Breath of the Wild has DLC.

          • SinCityAssassin

            They’re likely not gonna make a new sequel to XB2 based on the ideas they have on the DLC as they’re also busy working on a completely new game and providing supplementary support on other Nintendo games.

          • zelgadis greywords

            is called complete because the game is a goty version of the disgaea 5, incluiding all the released DLCs. In the original you must buy all the DLCs, that costed almost 50$ aditionally

          • Adrián Alucard

            You know “GotY” is an award, right? but is an expression that publishers uses just to launch the complete game just because it sounds good.

            The switch release of Disgaea 5 is the complete game, the Ps4 is not the complete game because it have dlcs.

          • zelgadis greywords

            so a complete game that give you hundreds of hours gets some adds that extend that hundreds of hours with a lot of more is not a complete game? Curious

          • Force

            Fate/Extella the Umbral Star also had all the extra DLC, and there’s not a “complete” in there. It’s but a title, don’t read too much into it.

        • KnightWonder

          And skip out on the holiday rush? You’re mad if you think that’s a good decision.

          • Adrián Alucard

            wait for the next holiday rush to launch

          • Ryan

            What if they want to add more content after launch to have users come back to the game and make a few bucks?

          • Stuart O’Quin

            Gotta be trollin’.

          • Adrián Alucard

            nope. Is just I don’t buy games with DLC. I’m not dumb

          • SpectralDynamite

            You must not buy games anymore, then.

          • Adrián Alucard

            Not at all, I just wait to the “complete edition”

          • Stuart

            Do you honestly think people wouldn’t be mad if they delayed this game for a year? I rather play this game now without the DLC than wait a year just to save a few bucks…

            Or you know,not buy the DLC because the game is already big enough…

          • Adrián Alucard

            Breath of the wild got delayed for 2 years, also…

            “A delayed game is eventually good, a bad game is bad forever.”
            a quote from Miyamoto

          • GoldenTriforce

            Yeah. People weren’t pleased. But its Zelda. Its going to sell, a lot, no matter what. Xenoblade is outstanding but its still niche.

          • Adrián Alucard

            I didn’t bought Zelda and I won’t be buying DLCblade 2

          • GoldenTriforce

            Okay.

          • GoldenTriforce

            I mean buy Xenoblade just so the game sells more but thats unrelated

            😉

          • Stuart

            Oh yeah,because people looooooved the delays of BotW, right? Dude,there was RIOT everytime Nintendo delayed that game. I repeat,do you honestly think people would not get mad at delaying this game for a year?

            Also you are taking Myiamoto out of context. The quote goes “a RUSHED game is bad forever”. He is talking about the danger of rushing a game and releasing it broken. In no way he is defending the act of delaying a game for no reason but to improve the game. The fact is this game is finished,running well and is launching with waaaaay more content than gamers usually pay 60 bucks for. Delaying this game so for those 5-10 hours of unnecessary gameplay when we could be playing the rest of the 150+ hours required to complete the game is nonsense.

          • AquaBat

            So you’re admitting the DLC is unnecessary then

          • GoldenTriforce

            No one is saying its necessary. The point is, it is unnecessary. In this case, and in most cases, outside of your EA, Activision, etc., DLC is for content which developers wanted to put in the game but were unable to. It isn’t something that needed to be in the game, or it NORMALLY would be a free update or would be built in.

          • Stuart

            The content on it is optional? Will this greatly change your experience with the game or affect the core gameplay? So yes. It is unnecessary in a sense that you play only if you want. If even after the 150+ hours gaming you still wish to play more. If not than you can live without it. That was my point,it is bad to delay a game for this and worse to get mad for this. The core word here is OPTIONAL.

          • Adrián Alucard

            The DLC presence means they rushed the game

          • Stuart

            No it is not. It means they are working to release more content months after the game releases. Please don’t look at me and tell me that this massive and beautiful game is rushed,please…

          • Adrián Alucard

            They are launching the game without all the planned content=rushed

          • Stuart

            What if the content wasn’t planned until the game was finished already? If the game works,have beatiful graphics,no bugs,a crazy amount of content in game,and the gameplay is completely functional,then the game IS finished. Supporting a game after launch is NOT rushing it. Releasing content after launch that will NOT affect the game if you do not have it is NOT rushing it.

            Look dude,at this point my comments already showed a hundred arguments and you showed barely none. I hate keeping repeating myself when the other guy is jumping over what I said to focus on one thing every reply,so I’ll be gone now. Bye.

          • Force

            If you don’t mind, I’m going to supplement your comments with an example of DLC that should’ve been a part of the game initially:

            http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-04-29-total-war-warhammer-dev-backtracks-over-controversial-chaos-warriors-dlc

            The backlash over what happened with that game caused the developers to back-track and offer it for free if you bought the game within a week of launch.

          • Adrián Alucard

            The game didn’t launched (probably is not even gold already) and we already know what all the DLCs are, so no, the didn’t improvised the DLCs. The developers already know all the content, it’s planned on the calendar they provided during presentation.

          • Stuart

            Read my comment. Don’t read the first part and jump the rest of my points. Now read the last part. Believe what you want to believe,hate what you want to hate. Bye.

          • Nhat Anh Hoang

            The DLC will take 1 more year, yeah, you are right. Your though is super rush

          • NBMTX

            you’re literally just talking about things you know nothing about here. You don’t know how the additional side quest ties to the main plot, if at all, and the DLC straight up includes a new storyline next year. It’s presence doesn’t mean the main plot was incomplete, or that the story was cut up and sold incomplete. It just means they’re creating more content to be added over the next year.

            edit: if it wasn’t complete as planned, Nintendo would just delay the game like they’ve always done.

          • Adrián Alucard

            In old JRPGs it was fun to finish the main game and discover you still have to discover an extra story or hardest quest. Now instead of that you must pay for that kind of content, witch is bad for users, and greedy as hell.

          • NBMTX

            this isn’t the same as post game content like Ruby/Emerald Weapon, which Xenoblade has traditionally had it’s own versions of (not necessarily locked to post game though). So you’re not paying for that kind of content in general, you’re paying for MORE of that content, plus an additional expansion storyline/adventure. Expansions have been around for about as long as what you’re mentioning, and have always been viewed as something different than modern DLC and micro transactions. Expansions expand, while DLC is typically not too important additional content, just for fun. This is both. The main story is already complete, and I’m sure there are dozens of hours of content on top of that as well. So you see it as greedy as hell and I see that as entitled as hell. To each their own.

          • Adrián Alucard

            Yes, is not like other Xenoblade games, but like other JRPGs where you have a new story plus new side quest plus some new bosses plus new equipment and new areas after hundreds of hours playing the main game. Etrian Odyssey comes to my mind, since I bought Etrian Odyssey V recently.

          • Evan Gustavson

            By that logic, every game in history is “rushed”.
            Any game worth its salt has cut content due to things like deadlines and time constraints. Or even technical issues.

            DLC is a means of being able to implement more of your ideas after the fact.

          • Adrián Alucard

            Nope. Just look at the first Zelda (NES). When they finish the development they saw they used only half of the cartridge storage and started thinking how to fill it. And that’s how second quest was born. Instead of rushing they thought how they will use the free space left to provide a better experience for the users, FOR FREE. Abd now look at breath of the wild you must pay for second quest. They changed to be nice with users to just be greedy.

            Also, cut content is not remotely like DLC. They plan DLCs but they don’t plan cut content.

            Plus, cut content can be part of future games. So they offer something new and fresh instead of offering something old that people has forgotten. I mean, if I finish Xenoblade 2 this year I probably won’t touch the game again ever why should I return one year later to play a new little story? That’s a no sense. It’s a single player game, when I finish it I start with a new game.

          • Game_God

            @ Adrián Alucard Your comments in here are just childish trolling just to piss Nintendo gamers, why don’t you just disappear from this site? You’re a sad pathetic troll, your life must be really miserable if you don’t have better things to do than doing 100 troll posts per article… feel sorry for you troll!

          • Adrián Alucard

            Being against DLCs is not being a troll, In a Nintendo gamer too that just happen to not support DLCs

            I loved Fire Emblem until they made DLC Emblem: The waifu wars

            I loved Metroid until the asked me to pay por harder difficulties or even the sound test

            I still love Wario, Advance Wars, F-Zero, etc…

          • Nhat Anh Hoang

            So just come back to your SNES, DLC is gaming industry standard, the matter is how to use it good or bad way. Now every major company have DLC, a vocal complain is meaningless when majority customer adapt it long time ago

          • Adrián Alucard

            Not all standards are good, DLCs are just a good example. The industry just transformed a bunch of free features to “premium” features and since customer are a bunch of brainless zombies whithout the ability to think critically before buy, they are just “zombie likes, zombie buy”

          • Nhat Anh Hoang

            Said that to Mario Kart 8 and Super Smart Bros, you are welcome to come back GameCube

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          • Adrián Alucard

            I say it. Smash DLC characters where unbalanced OP characters and needed lots of nerfing patchs, so they were unfair DLCs, turning Sm4sh into a pay 2 Win for a few months.

            MK 8 had very little base content

          • Nhat Anh Hoang

            So all are unfinished trash, understood

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          • Adrián Alucard

            Yes, I still feel the kinfe in my back because the Sm4sh DLC…

          • Nhat Anh Hoang

            So don’t buy it anymore, go play N64 or GameCube

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          • Adrián Alucard

            Yep I know, I wont be buying Sma5h

          • Nhat Anh Hoang

            Yeah, go play SNES or N64, whines in Nintendo Everything mean nothing and just show you are annoying when SSB5 will sell millions, they don’t care about one or two people who don’t adapt industry gaming standards for 10 years

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          • Adrián Alucard

            Yes, DLCs are standard now thanks to sheeps like you.

            I prefer free hard modes, free costumes, free unlockables, free sound tests, free side quests, free online, bigger games (by bigger I mean more base content), etc… Instead of paid hard modes, paid costumes, paid unlockables, paid soun tests paid side quests, paid online, smaller games, etc…

            Changes are not always good. It’s WAY BETTER to just unlock harder difficulties than pay for them.

            It’s way better unlock 34 chatacters for a total roster of 56 characters than pay for 6 characters for a total roster 36 characters

            Etc.

            DLCs are anti-consumers and only feed companies greed

          • Nhat Anh Hoang

            Except Super Smash have 58 characters including 7 DLC, and you should ask Nintendo give game for free also LOL. Nintendo have free online for 2 gens compare to competitors, and now it’s only 20$ a year while both Microsoft/Sony is 60$, nothing is free. Like i said, you can come back to N64 anytime

          • Adrián Alucard

            Except I’m not talking about Smash bros. but Marvel vs Capcom. In MvC2 you had 56 characters in MvC:I only 36 and you must pay 6 of them

            Online is free on PC with more features. Like Cloud sync, sharing you games library and a much more robust online infrastructure. Not to mention that you don’t need to transfer you profile to new PCs to access all your purchases, you only need to log in and that’s all, unlike Nintendo platforms.

            And yes, I could ask Nintendo for a free game or two, I have a ton of free games in my PC, like Watch_Dogs or Syberia because publishers are constantly doing give aways.

            Also, even the Wii U had a much better online infrastructure, you can compare Splatoon.

            Splatoon have servers, Splatoon 2 not (uses P2P)
            Splatoon tickrate is better than Splatoon 2
            Etc…

            So you are going to pay for a worst service than the free service. Incredibly dumb, but it’s something sheeps do.

          • Nhat Anh Hoang

            Why don’t you talked about Wii U ver can be played only at home? Graphic, resolution, model, weapons, maps are a lot better than in Wii U

          • Adrián Alucard

            I don’t see/use Switch as a handheld. It doesn’t fit in my pockets, so I don’t use it as a handheld, plus double screen feature is way better feature than barelly portable console.

            Splatoon online features are really bad compared to other online games with better everything (graphics, resolution, models, tickrate, lag…) and still Splatoon 2 online is weaker than Splatoon, thats an achievement, and not a good one

          • Nhat Anh Hoang

            That is applied to you, not for other people who played it outside. And this is the first shooter series Nintendo make, complare it to other series exist for a long time or made by developers who have made many shooter games, yeah. Yeah, absolutely fair

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          • Adrián Alucard

            The genre has nothing to do with the online infrastructure nor the graphics or weapons or models…. And I’m comparing Splatoon with Splatoon 2, I think is a fair comparison, well not too fair for Splatoon since is older and runs on a weaker system, still, the original offers a better service than the sequel, thats all. But hey, you are a sheep it should be hard to think by yourself

          • Nhat Anh Hoang

            Yeah, it’s not easy to understand the whining minority want everything for free, go to store and said they give you for free. God bless you

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          • Adrián Alucard

            Oh, no, I don’t want everything free, just a fair trade.

          • Nhat Anh Hoang

            Yeah, not free but 0.025$ for each game, understood

          • Adrián Alucard

            I gladly pay 40, 50 or even 60€ for games, complete games.

          • Nhat Anh Hoang

            You are in minority, majority don’t want to spend that much. If you do business, you will choose a few or hundreds thousan of customers?

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          • Adrián Alucard

            I now I’m a minority, but just because people just consume without thinking, sheeps will be sheeps.

          • Nhat Anh Hoang

            All companies use DLC, you want Nintendo do the thing opposite to the world? Majority understand that and adapt industry standard, but some slow mind delusional can’t accept the fact

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          • Adrián Alucard

            Most publishers also release the complete edition at a later date, Nintendon’t

            Nintendo altso talks about how different frpm others they are (bit they aren’t)

            Also, majority just don’t care about DLCs and just pass, others wait and buy the full game and the fanboys just buy everything no matter what.

          • Nhat Anh Hoang

            So just do it, as if your action can change anything became standard

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          • Adrián Alucard

            It’s what I do. I don’t buy DLCs, just complete games. It’s really dumb paying the cost of a full game and obtain just only a part of a game.

          • Nhat Anh Hoang

            Yup, DLC won’t disappear, nothing and no one can change that

          • Nhat Anh Hoang

            So now if GTAV get addition DLC, it is rush too? LOL

          • Adrián Alucard

            If have enought new content to be a proper EXPANSION is ok, if it is a little add-on, yes they rushed the game to make more money

          • Nhat Anh Hoang

            Lol, you say that to everyone in the public and everyone will laugh, even punch at you for sure. GTAV have 6 years developed and came out in 2013. Now you say it’s rushed because it have new DLC now is ridiculous

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          • Adrián Alucard

            GTA V do not have DLCs (GTA online does)

          • zelgadis greywords

            please, pick one, nor the two, or the game was rushed or delayed two years, one of them makes no sense.

            (Adrián Alucard Stuart • 2 days ago
            Breath of the wild got delayed for 2 years, also…

            “A delayed game is eventually good, a bad game is bad forever.”
            a quote from Miyamoto)

          • Adrián Alucard

            Maybe Nintendo should have delayed the game one more year and publish the complete game

            Or they should have used those two years to deliver the complete package instead of doing nothing

          • Izaal Daar

            the dlc presence means than in order to monetice the huge cost of the game it is neccesary to sell a 30€ dlc instead of selling the game at a 90€ base price.
            No more, no less.

          • Adrián Alucard

            Maybe Zelda because the Wii U failure and the 2 years delay, but not Xenoblade 2, it was developed in only 1 year because they already had all the tools and the hard work made thanks to XCX.

            But yes, some plublishers use DLC as a undercover price rise (mainly the AAA indutry and their incredibly high marketing costs)

          • zelda was delayed so they could make it for switch
            they took out functionality from the wiiu version

          • SpectralDynamite

            So you want them to delay this game a whole year, lose their big December release, and piss EVERYONE off then? Because that’s exactly what you’re saying, whether you wanna admit it or not.

          • Adrián Alucard

            Yes, I want them to release the full game instead of them releasing it in parts

          • SpectralDynamite

            It’s a good thing you don’t influence this at all, then.

          • Nhat Anh Hoang

            And fail in sales because fans are angry? LOL

          • Adrián Alucard

            Zelda sold well despise the 2 years delay and the Wii U owners backstab

            I’m more angry with DLCs presence than with delays

          • Nhat Anh Hoang

            It’s not 2 years anymore if they delayed it to 2018 for full content like you said. People will be mad as fk for sure. Remember Xenoblade is much much more niche than Zelda. Delay it and it won’t even reach 800.000

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          • Adrián Alucard

            You said delays affect sales I showed you that’s not true.

          • Nhat Anh Hoang

            It is true, Zelda sales maybe only reach 2 million and Xenoblade 2, it will luckily reach 800.000 at best if delay when fan are starving for next Nintendo big RPG, delay it 1 more year mean they will wait for emulator and pirate it for free, Zelda already have many pirates on PC with Wii U emulator

          • Adrián Alucard

            Yeah, because Zelda pc is way better than Zelda Wii U/Switch

            -Better performance
            -Better graphics
            -Mods

        • Stuart

          People usually hate delays. They don’t like to wait when the game is pretty much finished.

        • GoldenTriforce

          We’d all be happy if the industry worked that way. But it doesn’t, its financially irresponsible to delay a game for minor content, and plus, people would be pissed if it was delayed out of the year.

          • Adrián Alucard

            It’s how the industry worked until the seventh generation, but thanks to internet they can now just cut content from the base game and make more money. Business are gree, but i’m not ok with that. If they want my money they should keep with good practices

          • GoldenTriforce

            Games were released incomplete constantly before DLC existed. With or without DLC, no publisher will push back the deadline for a game unless they HAVE to. If they really DO cut content from games, at least we are getting it. But it does not feel like that is what they are doing.

          • Triforce of the Gods

            No it wasn’t. We just never saw that content, or it was saved for a sequel. There is always things developers want to add to games, but at a certain point, it’s not financially possible to keep delaying the game and pumping more money into it without raising the price of the game to make up for it. At least with DLC, we get the content later.

          • Daniel Pepper

            A lot of us rather play the game now.. and have no problems supporting the dev with extra money in the form of DLC..

            Not to mention Nintendo DLCs usually the best values in the industry

          • zelgadis greywords

            no, it’s not. Zelda majoras mask was composed from parts that they didn’t included in ocarina of time and the master quest from ocarina of time is the same, parts that they didn’t included in the final game and used to make that “new game”

          • Adrián Alucard

            I’m ok with using unused content from a game to make a new full fledged game.

        • Tlink7

          With that logic Nintendo should just develop the game forever, because you’ll always be able to add more…

          • Adrián Alucard

            Nope. Do writers keep writing the same book for ever? do composers keep adding notes to ther music for ever? do painters keep painting the same painting for ever? do film directors keep filming the same movie? Nope, you can keep doing it, of course, but when artists think their work is done they just finish it.

          • zelgadis greywords

            and then some months later we see director cuts or another version of those films

          • Tlink7

            Games aren’t art like books, films, music or paintings are. All of those things are static and have no consumer interaction. Games are played differently by every single player, not to mention the fact that they can be easily updated via the internet… You bet there would be book/film/painting DLC if it was possible. Stupid comparison. Is all DLC necessary and worth its price? Of course not, but not all DLC is bad… the Mario Kart 8 DLC was amazing and I would not have liked to have waited an extra year for that back then

          • Adrián Alucard

            Games are art and culture.

          • zelgadis greywords

            but a diferent form of that, alive and flowing, not static like other forms

          • Adrián Alucard

            Trapped in the closed by R Kelly, search a little and come back and tell me if is static or not.

            Games are interactive if they are alive is just because companies can make more money with less effort, So “alive” games are bad.

          • zelgadis greywords

            remember diablo 2, Wow, starcraft 1 and 2 baldurs gaste, lineage, guild wars 1 and 2, heroes of might and magic 1-5 and almost all the games ? All the games have been gettind DLCs after launch, before they where called expansions because they cannot provid that content ( and more importantly tell you that they will deliver it) because the internet.

            And by the way, with your sentence “alive games are bad” you are telling that all games present past ( and posibly future) that are parte of the MMO, open world,RPG and action are bad

          • Adrián Alucard

            Expansions are basicaly new games in content quantity and duration, DLCs are not.

            I cannot think of a single DLC that is like an expansion.

          • zelgadis greywords

            So a expansion that adds a 25% to the base game is good but 2 or 3 DLCs that adds 50% and 300% are bad? ( diablo 2 lord of destruction vs MK8 and hyrule warriors respectively)

          • Adrián Alucard

            Expansions rarely added only like 25% to the base game, more like 70-90%

            But if you are ok with warriors-like dlc you are ok with lootboxes or abusive dlcs like DoA.

            I didn’t bought MK 7 and 8 just because that, not enought base content. It was OK for a DS cartridge with low storage capacity, but is not ok for modern standars (also, half the content is recicled from older games)

          • zelgadis greywords

            diablo 2 base: 5 classes, 4 chapter, 5 types of objects ( quality wise, not individualy type). Expansion pack adds: 2 more classes, 1 chapter and a new type of object. Total, roughtly 25% additional.

            expansion always have been a little part of the base game, 20-25% is the standar but it can be less than that

            and yes a like the hyrule warriors type of DLC but i hate completelly the DoA type one-. Becuase you like the DLCs from one game that doesn’t mean that you MUST HATE ALL THE TYPES OF DLCs, hate the use the companies do to them, but not hate the DLC per se, less when you dont know how many content it gives to the already enormous base game.

          • Adrián Alucard

            You are focusing in Diablo II, now try Starcraft Broodwar, Badurg’s Gate expansions or Age of empires Expansions. Lots of new content and single player campaing lengh almost the same as the base game.

          • zelgadis greywords

            no, i will not because that is not the objective of my post. The objective, that you are ignoring at all is that the expansions are not so good at you want to remember and the DLCs are not as bad as you want them to be. See you later, and learn to differentiate between good DLCs ( like mario kart 8 or hyrule warriors) and bad ones ( like the crap that pased with street fighter 5 or dragonball fighterZ or DoA ones) and between DLC that give you more content ( like the one from breath of the wild or horizon zero dawn) and the silly ones like the lootboxes that so crazyness are right now

          • Adrián Alucard

            Warriors DLCs are basicaly “remove the unlockables and made people pay for them” is not an example of good DLC, the same goes to MK8, tha base game have very little content cuantity compared to Diablo.

            I’m ok with expansions but i’m not ok by removing previously free features just to milk customers (paid costumes are bad, paid extra characters are bad, paid hard mode is bad, paid extra modes are bad, paid cheats are bad, etc…)

          • zelgadis greywords

            are you serously telling me that? you payed for characters in expansions ( all the characters/classes in all the games of blizzard or the baldurs gate series where like that. ALL OF THEM), you payed for scenarios in the expansions ( or what do you thing are the extra maps for the story or submodes are in the previously mentioned games?) , you payed for modes in half life: Decay, it was only a mulplayer expansion

            I repeat myself, that it looklike you didn’t read me in the previous post, learn to diferentiated good DLCs from bad, because there are a lot of diferences and forget about expasions, that they are not so good like you want to thing.

          • Adrián Alucard

            I payed for characters + story + equipment + classes + scenarios + bosses + dialogues + game balance + a bunch of stuff, basically a whole new game. You paid for unlockable weps and characters

          • Tlink7

            I don’t need somebody repeating what I already said 😉

        • Nhat Anh Hoang

          Exactly, why don’t they delay Zelda one more year for DLC?

          • Adrián Alucard

            Because Nintendo is greedy, selling DLCs is more profitable that not selling DLCs is just that. As a business they only want to make money, selling games in parts is more profitable than selling complete games

            Why arms DLCs are free and zelda or Xenoblade are not? Because Arms is a new IP without fanbase, just wait until arms 2 or 3, they will star charging for characters, weapons, costumes, scenarios… Firts build the fanbase, then milk them

    • Firepistol95

      dont know how since all this content is spread all the way to a year from now. With it ending with a story dlc. This is still alot better than certain season passes I know of. >.> So far any Nintendo games with season passes hav been $20-$30 so with wht they revealed seems like a good deal for tht price, if it shows tht much. But it can b easily abused by some corrupt companies, so I can understand the mistrust.

    • Gamingfan

      thank the sheep for bad business practices.

    • Ryan

      No idea why people say this every time Nintendo does DLC. Nintendo does DLC much better than other companies do. Did Zelda have it’s 2nd story cut from it to be put in DLC?

      • Adrián Alucard

        I say it every time a game I like/want have DLC. No matter if it’s Nintendo or other company.

        And probably yes, Zelda was delayed 2 years just because the switch, so all the content was probably completed but cut.

        • Ryan

          Why wouldn’t they be releasing the Zelda DLC sooner than? Why do you have such a grudge against DLC? This content would’ve never been released at all if this was a decade or two ago, what’s wrong with having more to come back to?

          • Adrián Alucard

            I’m ok with expansions, but i’m not ok with greedy DLCs, that’s all

          • Firepistol95

            I say just wait and see wht the dlc pass offers b4 u make a judgement call. The 1st 2 in the pass does feel like cut-content but I think it just encourages the ppl to get it. I dont know about the 3rd one but the last 2 dlc does feel like stuff thts being worked on. If tht last one is the size of an expansion like Wolfenstein Old blood or Witcher 3s expansions then thts great tbh. Maybe just wait on getting the game and see how the dlc pans out towards the end of next year and see if its worth it or not of ur $30 (excluding the $60 on the base game)

          • Game_God
        • Stuart O’Quin

          If the DLC was ready, they would have filled some of that empty space in August/September with it. They wouldn’t be cramming it right next to Xenoblade 2 – which it will be fighting for time.

        • Daniel Pepper

          It makes absolutely no sense to delay Zelda DLC until December when they have Xenoblade….

        • Game_God
    • GoldenTriforce

      Because the game is complete. On December 1st. Unless you want them to delay the game for content thats not done yet, its going to be DLC. DLC normally doesn’t begin development until the game is complete (which likely happened around now)

      Its not releasing until next year so clearly its still in development.

      • Gamingfan

        So you know for a fact that the dlc is not done yet? Or is it just what you want to believe?

        • Ryan

          Why wouldn’t they speak in more clear terms as to what the DLC is if it’s done already? Why wouldn’t it be launching sooner to make customers want to buy it quicker?

        • Tide

          Whats the point in sitting on complete DLC for 6-10 months? They lose potential sales. If they had it done already they would try to sell it months after launch.

          • Gamingfan

            More money. Ask activision how its working out for them.

          • Ryan

            How would that get them more money? You have to buy the DLC all at once.

          • Gamingfan

            You dont actually. You can buy the map packs separately.

          • Ryan

            You can’t buy the Xenoblade DLC separately is what I was saying.

          • Tide

            Activision sells DLC immediately though. Destiny 2 has their first expansion 3 months in (7 weeks for PC). They sell it while its hot, not after ppl are already long done with it.

          • Game_God
        • GoldenTriforce

          I know for a fact because thats how the industry works. It is financially irrational to hold a product off if you could charge for it now. If it was ready now, they would just offer it as payed DLC now. (Yes, you can BUY the DLC now, but if it was available now, a lot more people would buy it) Plus Monolithsoft is too small to do DLC and finish a game now. They’re great, but not Ubisoft.

          • GoldenTriforce

            Also based on Nintendo’s history, we know Nintendo normally doesn’t finish DLC at launch.

          • Gamingfan

            plenty of companies hold back content. It doesnt stop the masses from buying the game either.

          • Ryan

            But why not have the opportunity to release that content as an optional purchase?

          • GoldenTriforce

            Story DLC? For months? And normally companies lose money when they hold off releasing games.

          • Gamingfan

            companies like ubisoft still sell games at full price and if people want story dlc they buy it. They get more money regardless.

          • GoldenTriforce

            Okay. But thats different DLC then whats happening here.

          • Gamingfan

            Im not for or against this because I dont know if they’re trying to rip us off or not.

          • GoldenTriforce

            Then wait to see if you want to buy it. You don’t need to get it before it releases if you want it.

        • Game_God
        • Nhat Anh Hoang

          DLC will be 1 year later, you think it is finish now?

      • Adrián Alucard

        “Unless you want them to delay the game for content thats not done yet”

        Errm, yes. If the game have not all the content developed it’s not finished

        And no, most DLCs are just cut from the base game. You are talking about good old expansions that were like full fledged games, but expansions are extinct

        • GoldenTriforce

          Okay sure. Lets try delaying the game a year for what seems like what is at most 10% more content. People will love that. I’m not saying I don’t want all the content to be available day one, I do , but the internet loves to speculate the worst for developers. Based on Nintendo’s history, this DLC was not from the base game. It likely began planning when the game finished development, when they couldn’t add any more content to the base game.

          • Adrián Alucard

            Well if Nintendo finished to develop Xenoblade 2 they should start developing a NEW GAME and not keep developing a “finished” or “completed” game

          • GoldenTriforce

            They will. X had DLC, and Xenoblade 2 began development before X was complete. DLC is a very small portion of the team.

          • Game_God
          • Nhat Anh Hoang

            So if next ear or 2020 Zelda have another DLC, mean they should delay it to 2020? LOL, when that happen, not sure they can even sell 2 million

          • Adrián Alucard

            Well, instead to make a DLC they should do a new game.

          • Nhat Anh Hoang

            If it’s not enough for a new Xenoblade game? And every company have DLC, the difference is how to use it properly, the way EA use it is the worst while Nintendo is one of the best way. That’s game industry standard now, you can be your way alone. I will support the company use DLC good way, not bad way like EA

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          • Adrián Alucard

            Why lootboxes are ok in Nintendo games and bad in other games?
            I mean, BotW have lootboxes. Scan the amiibo and obtain random gear, just like lootboxes.

            Why paying for cheats is ok? Mario Odyssey does it. You scan you amiibos and obtain infinite health or invencibility

            Why paying for “on disc” DLCs is ok when Nintendo does it but bad when capcom does it?

            Why paying to unlock harder difficulties is ok? Why paying to unlock the Sound Test is ok? Not even EA does that.

          • Nhat Anh Hoang

            The problem is you don’t need it to complete the game. Or they should be microtransaction loot boxes feature like EA game which need to beat the game?

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          • Adrián Alucard

            It’s WB who made a game where you sholud buy lootboxes to actually finish the game. It’s buying lootboxes or insane grinding, just like Fire Emblem games. They removed arenas where you cand grind easily and replaced with 3 DLCs made only for grinding (one for exp, one for gold and one for weapons) so it’s either you spend an insane amount of time grinding or just buy the DLCs.

            EA offer lootboxes too but are not needed to finish the game. They are just unfair.

          • Nhat Anh Hoang

            So the same apply to Nintendo, you are defending EA, said lootboxes are not needed to finish the game, Xenoblade and Zelda also unless you think you can’t beat the game without it. Defend EA, but bash Nintendo, what? We have a bias typical here

          • Adrián Alucard

            I’m not defending EA, just saying you are wrong. DLCs and lootboxes are bad no matter what

          • zelgadis greywords

            they are not the same because you have to pay for the lootbox everytime you want one and with the amiibos, additionally to being a colectible figurine you can use how many times you want ( with the limitations that the game you use impose, in the BotW 1 time per day EVERY ZELDA RELATED AMIIBO)

          • Adrián Alucard

            Amiibos are way expensive than most lootboxes, so is expected you can use those “physical lootboxes” more than one time.

            Also why force people who are not insterested in collecting figures buy figures? Amiibos are not a “toys to life” experience. Amiibos are only physical DLCs. No more, no less.

        • Daniel Pepper

          Thankfully you’re not running any studios or we’ll never be able to play a game in this day and age.

    • Tide

      I can maybe agree with the quests in January. It’ll depend on how much work are put into them.The challenge mode and new story at least 6 months out so I doubt they are just sitting on that content now.

    • Toni

      Why launch a game at all if you can just keep adding content to a game until the devs die? have some sense will ya, game development can’t go on forever, the game is done and complete, all the DLC content they want to sell is unecessary filler in order to make some money back because working with hundreds of people on one game for years costs a shit-ton of money, can you understand that?

      • Adrián Alucard

        I’ll just copy and paste other reply I made earlier

        Do writers keep writing the same book forever? do composers keep adding notes to ther music forever? do painters keep painting the same painting forever? do film directors keep filming the same movie? Nope, you can keep doing it, of course, but when artists think their work is done they just finish it.

        • Toni

          Nonsense, a movie will just make part 2 of it, nobody is crying about that second and third movie not being part of the first one and lasting 6 hours? a writer can just prolong their book forever if he wants, but he doesn’t carry the risk and responsibility of high costs over years that need to be covered, if he’s successful he won’t have to worry about time again, not so much with games, they’re not that independent, they’re part of a company that needs to make money and gets a lot of that money from investors who expect the company to make more in order to get something back from their investments, otherwise those investments were a waste of time, which again will lead them to abandon Nintendo, your logic is just half-assed

        • Blackbishop

          Seeing how Star Wars movies actually do that I’m gonna say yes, there are some studios that do that.

        • Game_God
    • PRIMUS

      It is already a complete game. You do not have to buy the Expansion pack.

  • Fandangle

    Announcing DLC before the game is out is dumb. Announcing extensive DLC plans before the game is out is REALLY dumb. DLC is cancer, make a game complete and then launch it, or at least make real expansions, minor DLC isn’t an expansion no matter how much you call it one.

    • KnightWonder

      Uh huh…

    • Ryan

      This isn’t major DLC? Like it or not, this content would never have been released if it weren’t for the expansion pass. I have no idea why people complain about this stuff. Just don’t buy it? Did Zelda cut content from the game for it’s DLC?

      • Fandangle

        New story content, quests, and a new blade aren’t major DLC

        Okay. No. You’re just wrong.

        if it weren’t for the expansion pass.

        I don’t believe that either. Especially after what they did with XCX’s DLC.

        Did Zelda cut content from the game for it’s DLC?

        YES. YES IT DID IN FACT. Aonuma openly admitted it and the article has been reposted several times on this very website. The Hero’s Path mode was intended for the original game but they cut it for DLC later on. PAID DLC. Worse there is cut content they don’t PLAN to EVER release because it was intended for the Wii U’s dual screen capabilities and would not work on switch. Zelda is literally the WORST example you could have picked.

        • zelgadis greywords

          oh, wow, they cutoff the hero path, i cant play without it, help me please. ( BY the way, i havent purchased the DLC at this moment and have more than 400 hours of play)

          • Fandangle

            Who said anything about needing it to play? If you can’t play without hero’s path then there is literally something wrong with you that you’re mentally deficient enough to need that. You also don’t need voice acting to play, or most polygons, or a majority of the sidequests, or the open world. You could just block link off, railroad him through the towns and then plop him in hyrule castle. You know what else they don’t need? most of the outfits in the base game. They should totes just cut all that, charge you specifically for it since you seem totally intent on defending terrible business practices.

            Quality human being right here.

          • zelgadis greywords

            do you know what sarcasm is?

          • Fandangle

            Do you know what calling a bluff is?

        • Game_God

          @ Fandangle Aonuma didn’t cut anything, it was an idea that they got to toy with after the release of the game, shut up salty troll ;P

          • Fandangle

            You’re literally contradicting aonuma’s own words here.

          • Game_God

            @ Fandangle As I said, it was an idea they had & could toy with it after release: “We had this Hero’s Path mode in mind from the start, but we couldn’t seem to find the right formula and it was going to take a lot of time to find it. How to show it, which reading mode to use… We didn’t know how to implement it in the game and it required some time, but luckily we had that thanks to the DLC.”
            It was not cut like you said, because it was never there, they needed to find the good formula for it to work, which they did after release.

          • Fandangle

            It was not cut like you said, because it was never there, they needed to
            find the good formula for it to work, which they did after release.

            Except it was cut, literally right there you quoted it He said they had developed it for the main game to a degree but cut it and now they’re selling it again, as paid DLC despite it being the simplest feature in existence.

            they needed to find the good formula

            This makes me think you don’t know what he’s talking about. This is no more than maybe a 100 lines of code, if even that. Maybe not even that. He’s literally talking about figuring out how long to make it or how to display it properly, it’s not complex at all, it was probably just a single programmer unhappy with some minute detail or him and a programmer disagreeing with the length. He actively admitted that they had spent time developing it before release, which is my issue.

            So for one it was actively developed before release, for two it was released later as a part of a DLC “pack” that was filled with stuff that most developers would toss into a free patch or update. But I forget nintendo isn’t most developers and that they want money. They aren’t companies like re-logic who believe in free updates or platinum who believe in delivering a whole game upon release, they’re modern nintendo, who think it’s okay to develop a feature for a game and then later make you pay 20 bucks for it.

          • Addy

            Don’t waste your time with @disqus_Caupo3E1rw:disqus, he’ll just be all NDF mode, slap a bunch of pics of troll figurines, and that unfunny salty meme.

          • Game_God
          • Addy

            All these flavors, you choose to be annoying.

          • Game_God

            Greedy baby, wouldn’t love to have the exclusivity to salty trolling, others too can be annoying, deal with it annoying cry baby… time for your suppository too I guess, spread them wide, here it goes:
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a645f6175cb4cdafe91a2bc89fc78912d6ea344b74783d4530aeecc660360937.jpg

          • Addy

            How bout I take that salt shaker from you and do the same to you?

            Have fun being branded as a butt kisser for a corporation that only cares about your money and not you. Never thought I find someone more immature then 03bgood, and that’s quite an achievement.

          • Game_God

            There you go!!!

          • Game_God

            lol…

    • GoldenTriforce

      The game was going to release how it releases on December 1st with or without the DLC. People don’t cut content and release it months later, thats just irrational. This is extra content that began development after the release deadline. That deadline wasn’t going to get moved.

      • Fandangle

        People don’t cut content and release it months later, thats just irrational

        Except they LITERALLY DID THE SAME THING WITH ZELDA.

        Am I the only one that remembers Heroe’s path mode and Aonuma literally saying he intended for it to be released with the game but held out on it for a glob stuffing over priced DLC pack that’s honestly one of the worst things since horse armor?

        • GoldenTriforce

          Oh really? I didn’t see that, can you link it? Note: That could have meant that it was PLANNED for launch, but couldn’t be finished on time. Again, they weren’t going to move the launch. If content isn’t done for launch, its not going into base game….

          …now should it have been free? Probably, but thats Aonuma’s call. But Aonuma is not Takahashi, they’re decisions as project leads will be different.

          • Fandangle

            http://nintendoeverything.com/zelda-breath-of-the-wild-devs-on-why-heros-path-mode-was-added-as-dlc-timeline-more/

            Note: That could have meant that it was PLANNED for launch, but couldn’t be finished on time

            So your solution: instead of adding it in a free update you charge people 10-20 bucks for it? Okay.

            Again, they weren’t going to move the launch.

            the advent of patches should have fixed this, instead you’re literally being charged for cut content developed during the game’s development that they cut.

          • zelgadis greywords

            the didn’t charged 20 bucks for that. They charged for that and a lot of more content

          • Fandangle

            “A lot more” being a few outfits, the ability to set warp point (That also shouldn’t be charged for), and a “dungeon” that’s literally just copy paste elements that fixes a weapon. Yes. 10 dollars for literal game rebalances is totally a-ok and features most games get at launch or in free patches. I’m almost tempted to say “when nintendo does it” because this is honestly ridiculous.

          • GoldenTriforce

            And a story mode. I promise you that first DLC wasn’t $10. If it was, it would have been available separately, which it is not.

          • Fandangle

            Am I missing something or did they not release the expansion pass at an outrageous 20 dollar price tag and label the “things that should have been included in a free update” as DLC pack 1?

          • GoldenTriforce

            Oh they did. But that doesn’t cost $10. That is part of the $20 you payed for both packs. You can perceive it as paying $10 for pack one, but more realistically they likely did that to tide the people who bought the season pass over until the second pack which is likely where most of that money is going. Maybe they should have just waited until later in the year, charged $20 for the story DLC, and given pack one for free, but oh well.

          • Fandangle

            “They should have waited for marriage when they fiddled the bum of their legion of fanboys but oh well.”

            You’re right they should have released it free. That’s my point.

          • zelgadis greywords

            first i didnt say “when nintendo does it” you did. Second: you are forgeting at purpose the last part of the DLC, What if all the cost is in that last one part?

          • Fandangle

            10 dollars for the first dlc so they can develop content for another dlc that’s not even included in the first 10 dollar purchase?

          • Nhat Anh Hoang

            No, it is OK when Sony do it, not Nintendo

          • Fandangle

            I’d say it’s not okay when anyone does it but that’s just me.

          • Nhat Anh Hoang

            Every company does it, industry gaming standard

          • Fandangle

            If I told you everyone jumps off a cliff without a parachute would you do it?

          • Nhat Anh Hoang

            Voice acting was a mistake? LOL. Many people asked for voice acting in Zelda for years since Skyward Sword. And yeah, Xenoblade X is English voice only, DLC of Xenoblade 2 won’t come out till late next year, delay an entire year for some DLC? LOl. As if this franchise sell big, the first one is only around 800.000, X is 900.000 at best, and you clearly see X is AAA, need to sell 2 million at least. Delay this game 1 more year and people will be mad as fk and this game will be lucky to sell 800.000, not mention this game definitely cost more to make than X with all Japan artists Nintendo hired for this game

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          • Fandangle

            Many people asked for voice acting in Zelda for years since Skyward Sword.

            I don’t believe you.

            Xenoblade X is English voice only, DLC of Xenoblade 2 won’t come out till late next year, delay an entire year for some DLC?

            I played X in japanese. I mean, after the translators did nothing but sling insults at me and idiots who defended that crap, much like you’re doing now, just whined “Just play the japanese version :^)” I just imported the japanese version and played it on my region free Wii U. Also Xenoblade 2 has dual audio on launch.

            Also your numbers are pretty off for the sales. Actually they’re really off. X barely outsold the original and the original sold at least 1 million last I checked. I also wouldn’t call X AAA either. And I really don’t see where you’re going with this “Delay it” I don’t think anyone said anything about delaying it.

          • Nhat Anh Hoang

            Nope, Xenoblade is GameStop exclusive in the west, all the number figure it was 800.000 at best, X is only slightly better and X obviously cost a lot more to make, only below Mario and Zelda, way ahead others Nintendo franchise. Want full content? Definitely delay to next year to do that, DLC will come out almost 1 more year. For a niche game like Xenoblade, delay it mean kill it’s sales

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          • Fandangle

            Okay, first off, you’re literally talking out of your rump right now. The NPD numbers were never released in the west but according to reports it was one of the best selling games of the month of April beating out HUGE releases like Mass Effect 3 and Prototype 2. It sold much better relatively in the west than it did in japan. Mass Effect 3 sold a little over 1 million units in April according to Eurogamer’s report on it. So no. Your number is incredibly wrong. That’s JUST the US numbers too, not including Japan’s numbers or the UKs, where it debuted fourth most popular on the charts and wasn’t a Gamestop exclusive.

            X is only slightly better and X obviously cost a lot more to make,

            I describe X as “one step forward two steps back.” but we’re not talking about quality here. It cost a lot more to make, more than likely because voice acting. The world was bigger but it took about the same amount of time to make and it used about the same amount of developers. It was marginally more expensive but I would still not call it AAA, I wouldn’t call anything nintendo puts out AAA honestly because they don’t pump NEARLY enough into marketing in order for them to actually qualify as AAA. They’re a very conservative business and they’re not into the whole multimedia deals or the glorified ad deals that most AAA publishers put into their games. You wont see a single “Coke!” sign in any mario game. They’re high budget yes, but AAA? no. Nope. Not at all.

            Definitely delay to next year to do that,

            Firstly, I never said “Delay the whole game!” that’s your ridiculous conjecture. I said “release as a free update”. There are multitudes of problems with delaying it but there is also multitudes of problems with your assumptions on delaying it. First off, Nintendo has talked about how they develop DLC before. they say they have a small tangent team that consists of a handful of people from the main development team, a small group, developing the content, Sakurai talked about this while making Smash characters. The added man power would VASTLY speed up the process. We’d see this out in maybe a month or two if they had the entire team on it which isn’t that bad, the problem is that they’d miss the december launch window, and Christmas season is an INCREDIBLY important release window for video games.

          • Nhat Anh Hoang

            So Zelda isn’t AAA? Xenoblade 1 was done in April 2010, Xenoblade X take development in June 2010 at the latest and it was out in April 2015, it also is HD, of course cost a lot more than something like Fire Emblem Awakening and it sold a lot less than Awakening and Fates. Xenoblade X definitely cost more than many Nintendo franchises outside Mario/Zelda and maybe Metroid Prime so sell less than Fire Emblem is nothing to write home about. Why don’t you show the number sales of Xenoblade 1 and Xenoblade X?
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          • Fandangle

            It depends. Nintendo rarely talks about the budget of their games. The AAA identifier is mostly about “money spent on” instead of “quality” or “size” like for example the Witcher series is mostly considered “AA” because they don’t have huge marketing budgets, and for nintendo marketing is the first thing they cheap out on. NoA couldn’t market Jesus to Christians.

            Just because the games are impressive and quality doesn’t mean they’re AAA. AAA isn’t even an identifier for quality it’s just saying “We spent soooooo much money on it!” It’s mostly a western market thing as well.

          • Nhat Anh Hoang

            Witcher series is not AAA, well OK. Say that to everyone LOL

          • Fandangle

            I usually do, and I usually have to explain what AAA means as a term, why it was coined, and how it’s applied because most people usually understand it as “High profile releases from big name studios.” When that’s only one qualifier for it. The other qualifiers are how much money is spent on the actual game and marketing (Nintendo consistently spends less on marketing and actual game development than your average studio) which is what the 3 ‘A’s stand for. Production “quality”, money spent on marketing, and profile.

          • Nhat Anh Hoang

            Yeah, sure, see how many people agree with you that Witcher series is only AA

          • Fandangle

            Yeah, I’ll be sure to talk about how the earth is round to a flat earther.

          • Nhat Anh Hoang

            You are ridiculous now, convinced majority gamer Witcher is AA only, then sure when a single person try to persuade many people what they won’t believe, let see how it turn out

          • Fandangle

            I’m still waiting on your argument. “Y-you’re ridiculous, stop spouting facts at me!” is all I’m hearing right now.

          • Nhat Anh Hoang

            So show me that everyone agree with you, i think there is at least one, that is you

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          • Fandangle

            Argument ad populem. Literally look up the origin of the phrase AAA. Stop getting so angry when people try to discuss things with you. You’ll get better responses if you do. But at this point I’m pretty sure you’re a troll because of our other comment threads.

          • Nhat Anh Hoang

            Yeah, i only agree with majority people, not a single low key one

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          • Nhat Anh Hoang

            Yeah, show me the proof or you can’t? I don’t have time to get angry to typical people like you

          • Fandangle

            You’re the one that made the claim though. You’re the one that brought mass opinion into it. I never claimed anything either way except to continually poke fun at how dumb you are.

          • Nhat Anh Hoang

            Nope, you claimed Witcher series are not AAA, why don’t you show me the evidence that people agree with you?

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          • Fandangle

            Do I need to link you to the Wikipedia article detailing what AAA entails? You clearly don’t understand what it means.

          • Nhat Anh Hoang

            I know what it is but majority people don’t think so and can you tell me what budget the Witcher series used?

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          • Fandangle

            A majority of people think a lot of wrong things.

            A majority of people agreeing on a thing isn’t an argument.

            Here’s the Wikipedia article because you insist on arguing with your own anecdotal and downright idiotic evidence: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AAA_(video_game_industry)

          • Nhat Anh Hoang

            Show me the wiki won’t change anything, moreover it said AAA games on 7th gen is at least cost 15 – 20 million to make and total suit the budget of Witcher 1 & 2, Witcher 3 cost 40 million to make, it is one of the cheapest AAA game to make in 8th gen

            2017-11-22 12:47 GMT+07:00 Disqus :

          • Nhat Anh Hoang

            If it have important thing to me, i will, no hesitate

          • Fandangle

            They charged 20 bucks for an expansion pass where half the offered content was cut content, widely complained about rebalances to a weapon, and things that other games do for free.

            Regardless of what your opinion on where the money is going it’s still a 20 dollar price tag for an expansion pass where half the content offered is just bad DLC. And then what about the people completely uninterested in the story dlc because let’s he honest the story was fairly standard and the English translation was borked to the beyond like all NoA translations are?

            I was actually trying to be fair by splitting the price tag In half. They’re labeled dlc packs 1 and 2 after all. They’re presented with equal importance but we’re just talking conjecture at this point.

            The problem is they’re charging anything for it. The salt in the wound is that the price tag is 20 bucks.

          • GoldenTriforce

            Again yeah, should have been free, but one producer’s call is not going to be the same as anothers.

            Also as Zelgradis Greywords said below, yeah, there is a lot more, mainly the story DLC, that is coming in that $20 DLC.

          • Fandangle

            Dlc pack two which was given equal standing as DLC pack one. Regardless of what it’s bundled with they’re still making you pay for it.

          • GoldenTriforce

            “Yes, it was mainly a matter of development time. ” Shouldn’t have been charged at all, BUT, it wasn’t going to be in the game if there was no DLC. That should have been free, clearly they were worried that people were going to be upset over $20 so they tried to cushion the content they were including. Should have showed story from the start and that probably would have worked better.

          • Fandangle

            So they charged 10 dollars for literal cut content, much requested rebalances, and content that most other games have in base? For the sole reason of making the 20 dollar expansion pass isn’t just some story content filled with bad voice acting doesn’t seem so bad?

    • Indielink

      The game went gold a while ago. This is all new stuff they just started making.

      • Fandangle

        How long is a while ago for the DLC to be announced and a full on expansion pass with story related DLC to be announced before launch?

        It would have to be at least another month, to get the story scenarios sorted out might take even longer. Then there is the timing, because those quests and reward items don’t just make themselves.

        They could have been using that development time to implement at least the first 3 points into the actual game if that was the case that they finished it 3 months before launch.

        • Indielink

          The game was finished around October supposedly and then they spent a month or two bug testing. Time is also needed to actually make and print the carts. They aren’t adding stuff into the game until the day before launch. That’s just common sense man.

          Just because there is a schedule for some of it doesn’t mean it doesn’t mean the story scenario is actually written yet. Case and point: Prime 4 was announced when they literally just started it.

          We know almost nothing about what this consists of yet, why are you so determined to be angry?

          • Fandangle

            Firstly it doesn’t take long to produce carts and boxes for a wide release. Secondly it’s not unheard of and it’s definitely not rare for companies to go up to the last minute and add content in. Thirdly you seem awfully happy to just pay for something that any decent developer would offer as a free update.

            That’s just common sense man.

            So they magically have all this intricate dlc and story content ideas ready for announcement as soon as they’re done developing the game? It doesn’t work like that. That’s just common sense man.

            Story scenarios aren’t just things you throw out and nintendo is being incredibly consistent with their dlc offerings these days. And if it’s anything like their last two outings with DLC or even like xcx’s dlc it’s not going to be good.

          • Indielink

            Everything also needs to be shipped out to stores and delivered and all that jazz and we know Nintendo uses slow sea transit as it is lower cost. Indie devs can go up to the last minute because of the magic of digital releases. Physical products don’t have that luxury.

            I am planning on seeing what the content is before i purchase, same as I did with Zelda. And I have no qualms paying for work that people do.

            Announcing something isn’t the same as having a finished product in hand. Notice the lack of details about any of this story content and the fact that it isn’t out for another year. This could have all been started last month during QA.

            I find Nintendo’s DLC has been pretty good. MK8 DLC was a great value, Hero Mode and the Trials in BoTW were fun, Hyrule Warriors can be played til the end of time with the DLC added. I imagine that FEW will be the same DESPITE not being my fond of the characters that game will contain.

          • Fandangle

            Everything also needs to be shipped out to stores and delivered and all that jazz and we know Nintendo uses slow sea transit as it is lower cost. Indie devs can go up to the last minute because of the magic of digital releases. Physical products don’t have that luxury.

            all of which can feasibly be taken care of in a rushed 2 and a half weeks or a steady month. Nintendo also has proven that they don’t care about rushed under stocked releases either MULTIPLE TIMES with both classic mini consoles, multiple amiibo, and even their own systems.

            Announcing something isn’t the same as having a finished product in hand.

            and no one said it was. But you don’t seem to realize how DLC release windows work or why publishers push devs to make DLC as quickly and as early as possible. You don’t seem to understand how much planning or effort or artistic assets are needed for this sort of thing either. The fact that they claim to be completing this in less than a year and deciding their effort between new items quests, characters, and story. And this is allegedly just the start of development then they wouldn’t have nearly as much of a solid idea of it. And then there is the idea that DLC is a given that after a game is out that devs need to load it up with “optional” content.

            It’s just sickening to see nintendo adopt the worst practices of the industry.

          • Nhat Anh Hoang

            Yeah, it is sick to see some slow mind adopt the worst practices of people who always complaint and want everything is free

          • Fandangle

            Hyperbole isn’t really an argument. It’s just you trying to make a strawman out of the person you’re arguing with.

          • Nhat Anh Hoang

            Hyperbole here, everyone. DLC is already industry standard for 10 year, you can come back to N64 to play your dream game

          • Fandangle

            Yeah, because just because everyone jumps off a cliff without a parachute, making it a cultural standard, means that it’s totally okay to do.

            There are MANY developers that get buy without awful DLC practices. There are developers that get by without doing any DLC, there are games that have nothing but cosmetic or minor DLC that only add new music or costumes to the game, and there is genuine expansions. The last game Nintendo did that was a genuine paid expansion with actual bonus content was Hyrule Warriors. In Zelda you get literal cut features, game rebalances that were one of the major talking points in reviews, features that are so minor that it’s audacious that they charge for them, and a bad “dungeon” that’s just a bunch of repetitive”kill all enemies!” bull.

            Then there is the “story” DLC which is pretty much guaranteed to be bad since the story itself is pretty bad. The Voice acting was a huge mistake.

            Then you got FEW, which literally sells you characters already in game, and they’ve openly admitted they’re withholding content to blackmail fans of classic games into buying it for the hope of getting the game they actually want.

            and now there is Xenoblade 2 which you get a whole load of nothing, and then a Story DLC at the end of it. As compared to Xenoblade X which had it’s DLC included with the western release.

            This is such a far cry from Nintendo of a year ago. It’s ridiculous.

            I’m not against DLC as a whole, I’m against DLC like this.

          • Indielink

            So almost a month for shipping and another two months for bug testing and fixing any game breaking issued. That’s THREE months that the artists and writers aren’t working on anything. That could have been the time the scenarios and new character art were being made. Most of the asset creation can be pulled from the main game and be built up from there. That’s how Nintendo built freaking Majora’s Mask in only a year.

            There are certainly companies that make terrible use of DLC but it is not a bad thing in and of itself. Game development is wildly expensive these days. I don’t blame developers for wanting to make back the money they spent. Zelda took 300 people 5 years to make, if they want to put 60 people aside to make new stuff to sell as add-ons while the others go work on new things then that is fine as long as the quality is there and it wasn’t removed from the main game. This isn’t 2K with the DLC already being on the disc and having to pay 10 dollars for a 5MB access key, Nintendo says this is new and I’ll believe them.

          • Fandangle

            The game is bug tested all throughout development. I also don’t see where you’ve got two months, it’s an ongoing process and it’s absolutely ridiculous to test huge swaths of content when it’s simply easier to test it as you add onto it. It’s just simply not feasible or even smart to dedicated that much time to it when you can be much more thorough when testing specific features as they’re developed. Also the artists are typically let go from the project or become less useful even earlier than that. Unless they need a new design for something. Writers are usually kept on call, but I think you mean scenario planners who are again reduced importance later on in development.

            Also you’re conflating developers and publishers. Most developers don’t care about things like that they just want people to play their game. It’s publishers who usually care about making the money. Nintendo was one of the few companies that kept their publishers and developers tightly knit and embraced dlc with apprehension but that Era died with iwata and now we’re seeing increasingly worse and worse dlc practices. In a few years they’ll be no different from Sony from the looks of it.

            There’s no difference between nintendo developing this before the games release and the 2k scenario the only difference is nintendo was smart enough to not put it on disc.

    • Daniel Pepper

      The game is complete.

      They’re calling it an expansion pass and the content it offers is fairly meaty

      • Fandangle

        “The game is complete” Yeah, no. To quote the thousand of raging SMO fanboys every time I said something remotely negative about the game “You haven’t played it yet, you don’t know what it’s like”.

        In all seriousness though, It’s story DLC in a JRPG. It’s major content they’ve obviously have been planning for months that they held out on and are now announcing a whole month before launch. Monolith aren’t strangers to this either.

    • Tlink7

      No one cares but a very vocal and very, very minor group of people

      • Fandangle

        Exactly. No one cares about the people defending this.

        • Blackbishop

          Sure, that’s why this game is going to flop…

          • Addy

            No, It’s going to flop because it’s not a Mario, Zelda, or Pokémon game.

          • Hidden Flare

            Just like Splatoon 2, Arms, and (ok maybe) Fire emblem Warriors… OH WAIT!

          • Addy

            While Splatoon is kind of new and Arms is new, they do sell decently and have potential to be long lasting IPs, but pale in comparison sales wise with Nintendo’s big three IPs. As for Fire Emblem, the sales is picking up outside of Japan since Awakening, but not in a good way.

          • Blackbishop

            The thing is anything else pales in comparison to that so it doesn’t even count as argument. I’m sure Nintendo and everyone else don’t expect Xenoblade 2 to make such numbers.

          • Fandangle

            -words never spoken once in the entire conversation line.

          • Blackbishop

            Sure no one says it is going to flop… just that the people really angry with the DLC aren’t going to purchase the game regardless of quality and content and they hope to send a clear message with that which can be reasoned by reading other comments in this announcement… what do you expect to happen if their best scenario happens? The game is not going to thrive for sure. You even somehow know MOST of the Switch owners are angry with this thus they are going to do something about it, most of the time that action is to vote with their wallet. Don’t blame me for what you are implying.

            The best stance to me is to ignore the DLC, don’t like it don’t buy it. If the game doesn’t suffer from it then there is no problem with it’s existence and it is too soon to judge that. That also sends a message.

          • Fandangle

            You’re being awfully presumptuous and imposing. Are you really going all out in making a strawman?

            But as for your last point. That is the don’t like it don’t buy it mentality. Not buying a game because bad dlc practices is perfectly valid. If they didn’t buy the game then the devs would see a trend of games with dlc tanking and would thus stop. Most DLC takes bare minimum effort to make yet devs still charge ridiculous amounts for it. Yet nintendo has lately been charging ridiculous amounts for it. It’s just one step above horse armor.

          • Blackbishop

            I wasn’t the one saying the minority here are the ones that are fine with waiting to see more to judge it which is what @Tlink7 implied.

            As I also said, it is too soon to judge that because there is barely information about it. But good luck with that, the people deciding to avoid this game because of the DLC announcement aren’t certainly going to change anything and will miss a good game.

            Times have changed and neither Nintendo nor any other company who does the same practices will care about that specially if the DLC is worthy for most of the consumers.

          • Fandangle

            Maybe you should reread the line. I was making a condescending sarcastic comment in response to tlink’s incredibly idiotic condescending comment. He’s just another rump diddler who is infuriated when people challenge his world beliefs that he responds to comments “Well you’re just a vocal MINORITY!” bullstuff because it tends to confuse people despite the fact that it’s unprovable. The reality is that a majority of people couldn’t give two firetrucks about an internet comment section unless the backlash over something is big enough for people to actually write articles about it. People getting angry over things like DLC offend people like tlink7 because in the end they’re just blind fanboys who default to defending a company from any sort of criticism.

  • GoldenTriforce

    Xenoblade X also had DLC actually. It was just included for free in America, so this is not that crazy.

    • KnightWonder

      No to mention, this is expanding into next year. So it’s not like it’s been completed. They’re still working on it and are releasing it as its completed.

  • Albel

    No matter what anyone says, I do like Nintendo DLC, same as with Zelda I personally enjoy the trend of making the games I choose to invest my time in last longer. I’ll enjoy coming back all over 2018 and training up and preparing for the new story part in a year.

  • Ryan

    Nintendo DLC is the best DLC. I can only hope Odyssey get’s an expansion pass announced for it.

  • KnightWonder

    I’m not much of a DLC person, but Nintendo’s DLC is something I can handle. For one, it’s done post launch. The first item are Support Items, that doesn’t take long to implement, which is why it’s coming out the same month. At the same time, another team may be working on those quests for the second part leading into January. Then we wait till Spring, Summer, and Autumn, which are still a ways away. Giving them lots of time to finish it all up. And knowing Nintendo, it may be $19, like the BotW DLC, which, looking at the list, is a pretty good deal. When it comes to DLC, I look for the amount of content and the price. I like the amount, I just need to see the actual price now.

  • Stuart O’Quin

    Some people will see this as a bad thing. I see it as continued support! If they had delayed the game by a year and added more (side) content to an already massive game, we would simply be waiting longer for a finished product.

    • KnightWonder

      Same. Xenoblade games are pretty darn massive, even the original, which was much more linear than X.

    • Tide

      Yea, ppl tend to forget that devs have to pick a point to stop. They don’t just work on a game until every single on of their ideas are in the final release. A lot just doesn’t make it into the release because they didn’t have enough time to finish it and it wasn’t worth delaying the game for.

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    • hi v3.0

      100% agreed!

  • Stuart

    Look,I get mad when the devs clearly took out content to sell as DLC and the game launches barebones, however with a game as massive as this, I see the DLC as optional as possible. Without the DLC we are still talking about an 150+ hours of gameplay.

    • KnightWonder

      The point where DLC becomes a problem for me, is when it’s clear they’ve taken out chunks just to sell back. This, however, seems more of an expansion of the actual game.

      • Firepistol95

        exactly. If it looks like cut content then ill wait for reviews or game of the year editions. Reason wht I dont buy the Destiny games since u need the expansions to make the game “good”.

        • KnightWonder

          Yeah. However, I remember Nintendo coming out after the whole fiasco with the BotW DLC, saying their DLC is always made post launch. Which is why we don’t have specific dates, not even for the December stuff.

        • Tide

          haha good call. I remember when the first Destiny was sold with the first 2 expansions on disc. You had to pay to unlock content you already owned.

          • KnightWonder

            I bought Vanilla Destiny…then The Taken King.

      • Tide

        Personally DLC should enhance the base game and not be needed to enjoy or complete it.

        FF15 was a major offender in this case for me. One of the main characters had some major development off-screen, it becomes a topic of the main story line AND they refuse to tell you anything of what happens without buying the DLC. What a let down.

        • KnightWonder

          Yeah, that should have really been in the main game. Though, it does make me curious as to what new adventure they’re making for the game.

  • KnightWonder

    The pass is $29.99 btw. So not bad considering all you’re getting.

  • GoldenTriforce

    $30 is a lot, but there is a whole story expansion AND some more quests so thats not that bad of a value.

    • KnightWonder

      And a new Challenge Battle Mode…whatever that is.

  • Vive

    It’s Xenoblade.

    Are you really worried that there won’t be enough contents in the base game?

    Xenoblade Chronicles and X were huge.

    • Game_God

      No they are not concerned about that, they are concerned about trolling, derailing the comments of positive comments & focus on stirring hate & more trolling

  • Stuart O’Quin

    So excited about this game! Xenoblade X made made my Top 12 on Wii U list:
    https://youtu.be/6SUglODVdXw

  • AquaBat

    Say it with me now.

    “IT’S OKAY WHEN NINTENDO DOES IT!”

    • Gamingfan

      if its something bad I boycott it. Thats what I do with sony’s paid online.

    • Fredy Rodriguez Ortega

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      ok I am not convinced yet

    • Dragonage2ftw

      Dunno what you’re on, but people are generally okay with season passes, so long as none of the content was cut to be sold later.

    • RoadyMike

      Every. Single. Time

    • hi v3.0

      IT’S OKAY WHEN NINTENDO DOES IT SINCE IT’S ONLY $30 WITH TONS OF CONTENT RELEASED THROUGHOUT THE NEXT YEAR 😉

      • Addy
        • RoadyMike

          GOD I hate that picture

        • hi v3.0

          You’re complaining about a $30 DLC with plenty of content that’s releasing in a course of a year? Are you gonna commit suicide with lootboxes?

          • Addy

            I told you before. I’m not spending $100+ on a game that may(not) have content removed. What ever happened to full priced games being complete and in having little to no bugs? Now we have games being released half-finish with content missing or locked behind a paywall, patches that get released months after the game hit stores only for them to make the game slightly less buggy. I should quit gaming, but not the old method of playing video games.

        • Game_God

          @ Addy You should do something about that acne, how about getting out of your mom’s basement to catch some sun & fresh air from time to time?

          • Addy

            That meme was used to mock the Nintendo defenders saying “It’s okay when Nintendo does it.” Over and over and over again. But when they companies do the same thing, they get mad and start acting like rabid animals. Why do people keep giving Nintendo the free pass? That company should deserve the same criticism as other companies do.

      • AquaBat

        Ah, yes, ONLY 30 dollars, ONLY half the price of the game, ONLY a grand total of 90 dollars spent on a full and complete game that only gets finished an entire year later

        There’s that grand illusion again

        • Evan Gustavson

          Right… /s
          I mean, saying a Nintendo game is incomplete without its DLC is like saying a movie or anime marathon is incomplete without reading all of the supplementary material as well…
          Supplementary content is always supplementary.
          Ultimately, even BotW’s story dlc isn’t necessary.
          It comes to a good ending on its own, and I don’t think you’d be complaining if the epilogue was in the form of a manga strip instead of paid content.

          The only reason AAA games still sell for 60 is because DLC is a thing.
          You’d be paying $90 for this game if they didn’t use DLC as a means to keep prices competitive.
          In a world without DLC, you’d still be paying $80 for the game and still have to wait an additional year for the game to be complete.
          The main difference is whether or not shelling out the last 20-30 USD and year of waiting would be optional.

          You’re the one fooling yourself.

          • AquaBat

            So in a perfect world I’d be waiting an extra year and paying $80 for games but never dealing with terrible DLC business practices again.

            Is there supposed to be a downside to this?

            By the way, nice job undermining your own point by comparing the paid DLC to a free epilogue comic. You realize that by using that logic, they COULD easily have made the epilogue into a free comic and not charge half the price of a game in a Season Pass, but instead chose to demand more money from customers? Slick debate skills, bro. You just made the thing you’re defending look even worse.

        • Game_God
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  • Locky Mavo

    Just when you thought the main game was going to be long enough. If Xenoblade 2 is anything like the other Xeno games, it’s going to be hella long in terms of gameplay hours, then they announce this?

    • Firepistol95

      eh its optional. The game is most likely 100+ hours of gameplay if ur not trying to do everything. If u want more for the game then the pass is there for u. U can get it if u want if u dont want to thts fine, u wont miss out a great base game experience.

      • Locky Mavo

        Oh, I’ll definitely be getting the pass, I just think it’s incredible that such a long game (that’s now been confirmed 100hrs +) is only going to get longer next year.

        • Firepistol95

          ah ok when u said “then they announce this” I thought u were getting pissed. lol but I think ill wait on it until the 4th or final dlc is released (and here wht ppl say how much content it adds) since I need to save my $30 on some other game. lol

          • Locky Mavo

            Nah, more pleased about it, than anything else.

  • Fredy Rodriguez Ortega

    DLC? riooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooot
    *raises pitchforks and lits torches*

  • RoadyMike

    *Sigh*
    I just wish it could go back to the times when everything was on the game disk/cart. Anything “extra” would be unlocked by completing certain tasks or the game itself, not behind a paywall. Guess that’s just me though

    • Firepistol95

      well most games I remember playing back in 6th gen and older usually had content tht they culdnt put into the game due to time constraints, low funding, etc. and occasionally was able to b pushed off into the sequel. dlc is just a way to give devs more time and money to add the content they culdnt b able to with the base games due to the lists I mentioned above. but I agree tht certain companies like EA cut off sections of a game to make u pay for it, but all games ive played tht were exclusive to Nintendo tht had passes, had fairly priced and decent content to go with tht price in their expansion passes.

      • RoadyMike

        I’ll go ahead and admit I’d probably get pissed anyway, but to announce all this DLC before the game is even out? That only leaves a sour taste. I never liked this trend in the industry
        And whatever happened to not putting out a game until it’s completely finalized, features and all, from Nintendo? What about the “delayed game” mantra

        I remember when everyone on “the Nintendo side” ridiculed everyone else for their games being chopped up and sold separately, how they’re never getting the full game with everything it has to offer unless they bought all the DLC

        But now that Nintendo is doing it, it’s somehow perfectly fine? BS

        • Firepistol95

          well forget wht I said. I had this response I made but the site deems to delete my response and I dont feel like having to re-type it. cya (and dont worry the response I was trying to make wasnt hostile. I was being mature about it.)

          • RoadyMike

            I understand. I hate it when that happens. Dumb mod bot thing

        • Radish

          Remember when DLC was optional so it’s pointless to complain about it? Oh wait, it still is.

  • Reggie

    I did this with Breath of the Wild, being a Zelda fan so I had some faith in it. But the DLC in that was hardly anything special and I almost regret having gotten it. I’ll be passing for Xenoblade 2, especially seeing as this would be my first venture into that series.

    • Firepistol95

      we havent seen the 2nd pack for BotW tht is story content but I think it will probably b worth it if it adds a minimum of 15 hours of story and more in the side content. and I dont understand ur quote “Ill b passing Xeno 2 and being my 1st venture to it”? U saying u will get the game or not?

      • Reggie

        I meant to say that I’m passing the DLC. I still intend to get the game.

        • Firepistol95

          ahhh ok. I might get the pass once the 4th or final dlc is released and wht ppl hav to say about it. If its good then ill pay up if not then I wont and probably bash them for it. lol

          • Reggie

            Yeah. I’ll admit that story DLC is more worth it.

  • Roto Prime

    Thank you for saving me money Nintendo, now all I will buy will be one LE rather then five! Keep this up!!!

  • Ser2k2
  • Tlink7

    Don’t like the DLC? Don’t buy it. No need to have a 200+ comment section full of rage every time the words ”DLC” and “Nintendo” are in the same sentence lol

    • Game_God

      They don’t even own or play Nintendo consoles, they are just here to troll…

  • LB

    id rather have dlc options than micro-transactions.
    pay money if you want more sidequests > pay money if you want ingame blades, items, and cosmetics.

  • Bart

    Game expansions were already a thing way before the term ‘dlc’ was invented, you know. You just bought it all at once (and physically) instead of staggered like this. No one complained.

  • Addy

    Wow, four new releases in a row that I got disenchanted by, a new record.

  • Addy

    Oh I just remembered, Xenoblade X had DLC. In the original Japanese version, which were made available in-game for the international versions.

  • hi v3.0

    If the price is $20-$30 then this is not bad at all
    EDIT so it’s $30! People shouldn’t be hating on this

    • Addy

      I’m not paying $100+ for a game that was carved like a Thanksgiving turkey, being forced to wait months for bug fixes, then seeing a GOTY / Deluxe version released for costing less in the future and not being advertised. Screw this current generation of video games, I’d rather see a massive market crash happen and then well see how people react when they experience what happened in 1983-84.

      • hi v3.0

        Then quit gaming

        • Addy

          I’d rather play the SNES, then whatever companies barf out this day and age.

  • PRIMUS

    You can buy the Expansion Pass any time. Even next year.
    New Story and Adventure – Fall 2018. A whole new game period. Think for once gamers think.

    • Addy

      Yes, you’re right. We can pay an additional $30 for content that may(not) be removed in order to cover developer costs any time we want until the server shuts down for good.

      • Nhat Anh Hoang

        So Zelda should be delay to release in 2018, even 2019. OK

        • Addy

          No, I’m saying once the servers for a game console is discontinued, the DLC will be gone.

          • Firepistol95

            not really, by the time the servers close down ppl will already hav the dlc files out on the internet for ppl to grab and a few tricks later boom ur able to play the dlc. I did tht with Fallout New Vegas on X360 b4, felt bad and tht was my only time doing it. lol (or unless they released Game of the year/complete editions where the dlc is on disk/card)

          • Addy

            True that DLC isn’t really gone for good, but getting it illegitimatly usually requires modding the console or storage devices which is something I don’t know how to do nor want to risk wrecking my stuff if I fudge it all up.

  • Connor The Dreamer

    People get worked up over season passes like this for no reason even though said content isn’t even ready for several months, (making a purchase of the pass on day one completely pointless) all while the actual game it still complete with things to do like in BOTW/Rabbids, yet when actual games come out that AREN’T complete and rely on DLC (free or not) like ARMS that’s OK somehow… Seriously, I have a lot more problems with the way ARMS and Splatoon 2 were released than I have with optional season passes that allow for extra, optional stuff to be added throughout the next few months. Not buying either of those until all the free updates stop or until the rest of the characters/items launch.