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Super Mario Odyssey receives first review in EDGE, awarded with a perfect score

Posted on October 11, 2017 by (@NE_Brian) in News, Switch

This month’s issue of EDGE was originally supposed to be with subscribers at this point. However, the magazine was delayed “to accommodate an exclusive embargo.” Subscribers will have the issue tomorrow, but we’re hearing that it’s already showing up in stores – and Super Mario Odyssey is apparently on the cover.

We don’t have any images just yet, but Mario is shown in a white tuxedo. But more importantly, EDGE appears to have the very first review of the game.

What we know at the moment is that EDGE awarded Super Mario Odyssey with a perfect 10. This image from the magazine was snapped:

In its history, EDGE has given 19 other games a perfect score. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild, which was released earlier this year, is one of them.

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  • ShonenJump

    Nice! 2 weeks away from this master piece! Many wanted a 3d Mario sandbox game. Now we got it and portable too! And you can play with a friend. Hype !!

  • TDude73

    A 10 out of 10 for Super Mario Odyssey for the Switch. Kudos to EDGE Magazine for that honest review!

    • Belazur .

      They are always honest.
      Not only then when a Nintendo game gets a good review score.

      • PachterStation

        How do you know Edge are always honest? Explain…..

        • TDude73

          Quit being a f*cking hater, wannabe. And thumbing up your own comment makes you a certified douchebag.

          • ≈ KobobKC ≈ ᔦꙬᔨ

            What’s up with the aggression?

          • Limit Break

            Professional Nintendo fanboy, most likely.
            It makes them furious when you question them.

          • Justin McQuillen

            What’s wrong with liking my own comment? Make an objective argument against it.

          • Rich Scales

            it means youre very insecure…. objective argument made

          • Justin McQuillen

            That literally is not an argument, that’s a non-sequitur.

          • Limit Break

            So wait, when some journal is sucking off the game you are waiting for you don’t have even the slightest shred of critical thinking going off ? But when someone questions your fanboy-filled optimism you call them names ?

            …You need a doctor, man.

          • Game_God

            Go play Paystation kiddo!

          • HAppY_KrAToS

            is it a problem for you that 70 millions gamers are playing thousands of games and genres and are having tons of fun ?

            go play on your nintendo box that can only play nintendo games with splatoon-mario-etc cell shaded/simple 2 color gradient type of graphics, unable to run a game with real textures.

            when you’re done playing the nintendo games, what are you going to do ? start botw a 50th time ?

            we’re gonna laugh, the day nintendo will find out they can make some extra billions with loot boxes like activision or Ea, and all your nintendo titles will ask you to spend hundreds bucks. because sooner or later, they will have to quit the 90’s.

          • Game_God

            HAHAHA!!! Cry me river eye-candy ignorant… thx for proving my point hardlycore baby, go pay for bad software & don’t cry so much ignorant baby 😛

          • Connor Johnson

            Can y’all please please please stop hurling childish insults at each other? It’s pointless.

          • Rich Scales

            absolutely correct. They try to say Fifa doesnt have frostbite because the dev couldnt be bothered…. were talking about the switch… it runs at 307mhz on battery. It has to have less textures for the XBOX360 version of skyrim. Then theres nintendo…. asking people to PAY for 30 year old games by re releasing the nes and snes as classics….. s rew that…. i have em all on a modded og xbox

          • Magical Podcast Dot Com

            What’s your point? Literally anything can be gotten for free by stealing it. Most people just aren’t interested in stealing, presumably because they have the integrity which you seemingly lack.

          • Eagle367

            Times like these I wish disqualified showed how many dislikes a post gets. Just curious

          • Rich Scales

            you cant get through to them…. remember theyre only children

          • Limit Break

            *gets hit in the gut*
            …You are right… I guess I have nothing to say to this.

          • Devlind

            Wut, he only made a question wondering about that. It wasn’t even hating on the score/review…

          • Eagle367

            Ignore extremists

          • Eagle367

            I thumbed up his post just because you were being a douchebag

          • Vigilante_blade

            Buddy, chill. People disagreeing with you is not the end of the world

          • Stop posting

          • Vigilante_blade

            No.

          • Rich Scales

            are you 8?

          • Vigilante_blade

            Add 22 years to that ages and you got it.

          • Rich Scales

            typical child like nintendo gamer response.

        • Magical Podcast Dot Com

          Nothing in life is a certainty, but when a magazine has had 311 issues full of video game reviews and has only given 19 perfect scores in its entire history then it’s pretty safe to assume that those scores are reserved for actually great games. You can look at the list of 18 others and most people would agree that there is nothing particularly fishy about that list of games from a quality standpoint (taste notwithstanding):

          Super Mario 64 (1996)
          Gran Turismo (1997)
          The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (1998)
          Halo: Combat Evolved (2001)
          Half-Life 2 (2004)
          Halo 3 (2007)
          The Orange Box (2007)
          Super Mario Galaxy (2007)
          Grand Theft Auto IV (2008)
          LittleBigPlanet (2008)
          Bayonetta (2009)
          Super Mario Galaxy 2 (2010)
          Rock Band 3 (2010)
          The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword (2011)
          The Last of Us (2013)

          “Edge has also retroactively awarded perfect scores to the games Elite, Super Mario Bros. and Exile, all of which were released before the magazine’s inception.”

    • Vigilante_blade

      While it “could” be very good, I think it’s a dangerous thought process to have such a set in stone opinion of game that isn’t even released yet. Besides, you can easily be honest and have a negative view of things others like.

      • Radish

        Kinda like how a certain someone had a “dangerous thought process to have such a set in stone opinion of” Fire Emblem Warriors before it was even released. xD

        • Game_God

          ZinnnnnnnnnnnnnG!!!!
          Ouch, that one was straight to the groin… well done!!!

      • Eagle367

        Yeah. But honestly how’s it been.

  • KnightWonder

    Kind of want to read the article to see what they say.

  • Jorge Alan Gonzalez Barrón

    Another GotY contender?
    My personal list has to be NiER, BotW, Shadow of War and maybe Nioh.
    Would be awesome if Odyssey and Xenoblade2 made it into the list too.

    • Steven Smith

      Shadow of War GOTY? Lol not this year… Not this decade

      • Cerulean Shaman

        Yep, exactly.

      • Donovan Tull

        Yeah. I’ve got the game, and it’s great. Maybe it would’ve stood a chance back in 2016, which was a rubbish year for games. But against contenders like Breath of the Wild, there’s no chance.

    • Cerulean Shaman

      Shadow of War isn’t getting anything near GoTY haha, but hey, free to honor it with a mention I guess.

    • Galvanized Rap fan

      Take out Shadow Of War and replace it with Persona 5 and all is well…

      • Jorge Alan Gonzalez Barrón

        OMG HOW COULD I forget P5!!!
        I still think highly of SoW but yeah, to make a spot for P5 I would easily remove it or Nioh, if I had to keep the same number of candidates

    • Nice list. Nier and BotW are pretty special. Hoping Mario and XC2 are contenders for that.

    • Justin McQuillen

      You forgot Knack 2

  • Ser2k2
  • Ser2k2
    • TruExtent
    • Thomas_NE

      NE comment section slowly turning into IGN’s.

      • Sagadego15

        And neogaf is being salty as well

        • Game_God

          That is what you get when you have an ecosystem poluted by “Moarrrr
          Powarrrrr graphic wh0res [email protected] tr*lls” instead of mature true gamers.
          What I find funny about these PS4/X1 “We havz the Powaaaarrrr” kids is
          that they get offended when I tell them that their beloved PS4/X1 are
          underpowered [email protected] with paying multiplayer compared to my PC… go
          figure! Power is the benchmark to everything gaming but only when
          comparing with less powerfull hardware I guess ;P

          • Justin McQuillen

            Not only that but BOTW running on Wii U honestly demolishes most of their games in not only a visual comparison but especially in a technical comparison. Looks way more amazing even on Switch. Not to mention PC gamers getting the full BOTW 4K experience if they can run it on CEMU. But I thought sony always win baby… knack 4 baby..

      • Justin McQuillen

        Agreed, get these normie plebs away from muh nintendos

  • Aiddon

    I can already hear message boards screaming about fanboys and fake news. Funny how GOTY lists are probably going to have tossups between two Nintendo properties

    • OniLink97

      Bit worried they might split the votes though and something else win

      • Robert Allen Stivers

        Sonic Mania, FTW?!

        • Eagle367

          Just so everyone knows I upvoted him, he didn’t do it himself

    • Fandangle

      Divinity OS2 blows botw out of the water. Mario, while solid, will not be anything to really sing home about. The score is probably just nintendo pressuring them.
      I’d also throw in cup head for being an Incredibly original game from presentation alone.

      • Cerulean Shaman

        I loved Divinity OS2 but BoTW was definitely the better game. Opinion of course, but scores aside and terms of raw influence I’m betting on Nier, BoTW, or Persona 5 being the games of the year this year, possibly with Fractured But Whole, Divinity, and Horizen Dawn having some chance.

        • Fandangle

          I don’t see how. BotW was just another open world game that got incredibly repetitive with some incredibly obvious flaws (the voice acting, poor translation, no reliable item storage, lack of dungeons, no postgame, progressing actually makes the game easier, excessive collectibles with little to no rewards, nothing that genuinely challenges you even with high level gear like optional super bosses) while divinity:os2 is a truly exceptional game.

          • masterjedi

            I liked the voice acting in BotW. I guess you did not consider the divine beasts to be dungeons? I certainly did. No postgame, what do you mean by this? I have ALWAYS thought that as you progress though a game, if your character gets stronger the game should get easier until you fight bosses. That’s what makes a hero’s journey in a game so epic. You start out and everything is too much for you to overcome but as you gain skills, find new armor or whatever, you become stronger and gradually those enemies that were wiping the floor with you before are no match for your improved skills. The Karate Kid is not the same movie if Daniel does all that training with Miyagi and still gets his face kicked off in the first round. While the korok reward was terrible, the fun of finding them was really great (for a while). Also, does this divinity:os2 have all these elements you bemoan BotW for not having? Because you pointed out all these flaws in Zelda and then just said divinity:os2 was truly exceptional without providing any evidence to back that claim up. So far you are just giving us your opinion on which game you liked better.

          • knimren

            Some of your flaws are justified, others not. I have a hard time taking people serious who are not able to appreciate more than one game at once. It’s like they are physically impossible to do that.

            You are only writing about its flaws and completely ignore its strengths. An open world game has never reached this level of open air movement. No pre-defined ways, no limitations where you can go. An open world game where exploration dominates and doesn’t hold your hand or shows the icons where treasure is buried like in RPGs as Witcher 3 or Fallout 4. You are able to choose where you want to go after the tutorial location. You can take on the main quests in an order that you choose. Plenty of well designed puzzles in the shrines. There are issues yes, but you are being unfair by only focusing on the negative aspects.

      • kuribo4

        I haven’t played Divinity, but BotW is pretty much as good as it can get, so I kinda doubt the veracity of that comparison. Not that it can’t be a better gane, BotW isn’t perfect, but it is a masterpiece.
        “Mario, while solid, will be nothing to sing home about”
        Sorry, but that just shows ignorance on your part. The team behind the current 3D Mario games are pretty much the best game designers in the world. I have yet to find something that feels as good to play, brings as much joy and is as perfect (yes, these games are usually) as the mainline Mario games. To doubt Odyssey is just denial or igmorance.
        Also weird how you praise Cuphead for presentayion and don’t see that in Odyssey.

      • Radish

        I love Cuphead but the only original thing it did was its graphical presentation. The actual game has been done to death, and while good–it’s not original in the least. A 2d run and gun game will never win GotY in this age.

      • Game_God

        Divinity is another crap overcomplicated uninovative PC RPG for fat virgins with no life. 1 hour of Zelda BOTW has more value, is more fun & brings more to the videogame scene than Divinity could even wetdream of!!!

        • Fandangle

          Overcomplicated? I mean, I’ve played more complicated WRPGs before. It’s pretty straight forward, and even offers a simplified UI for simple folk like you who still use controllers. If you seriously think Div:OS2 is “overly complicated” then maybe you should actually just stick to simple games with little depth like Zelda BotW.

          • Game_God

            “simple games with little depth like Zelda BotW”, 1 of these 2 things: you didn’t play Zelda BOTW or you don’t know what depth means… don’t worry about me “the simple folk”, I know how to use a keyboard & a mouse, being a PC gamer for leisure & working in the 3D creation industry for quite some time… this “simple folk” just has no time to spare playing mediocre games the likes of Divinity, which are again over complicated & cater to people with no life who can spend their days mastering the game… finding time for the 180 hours I’ve spent so far in Zelda BOTW was a challenge of its own, between work, lovelife, my dog, family, travelling, playing other games… play your uninovative mediocre game for fat imature virgins & let masterpieces like Zelda be!!!

          • Fandangle

            Zelda hardly has depth honestly. The combo system is bare bones. The deepest it got was the parrying system, which was hardly unique or new. Sure it had nice atmospheric depth, but even then Divinity has that for miles and more. Even the weapons follow basic molds. Trident, Large weapon, small weapon, and I guess you could count the bow. You could say boomarangs, but even then they’re just small/large weapons that you can throw like and they’ll come back to you. It’s just enough to be interesting but not enough to make fights regularly exciting. They tried to fix this with level design in some areas but they obviously sacrificed beauty for functionality outside the plateau with little opportunities for stylish combat actions.

            I could go on but you clearly don’t want to talk about video games.

            finding time for the 180 hours I’ve spent so far in Zelda BOTW was a
            challenge of its own, between work, lovelife, my dog, family,
            travelling, playing other games… play your uninovative mediocre game
            for fat imature virgins & let masterpieces like Zelda be!!!

            I don’t think overcompensating because you’re failing to win an internet argument isn’t a valid point. At this point, considering how obviously angered you are, I’d sooner believe you’re the culprit of domestic abuse than critical thought on video games. Maybe you should calm down a bit before replying again, my friend.

          • Game_God

            You certainly have a great imagination… you seem to master the art of self-delusion, all fat virgins have to I guess, they cling to their fantasy world where they are the gods of their intricate imature delusions, keep on telling yourself fairytales… & yes I’m very angry, ARRRR!!!! lol

          • Fandangle

            At this point I genuinely can’t tell if you’re a satirical troll or if you’re just that mad over my post.

          • Game_God

            Your guess is as good as mine… in the meantime do yourself a favor, don’t badmouth gamechanging genius games like Zelda BOTW & stop praising generic overdone/self-pleasuring/overcomplicated/overlayered games like Divinity…

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/264e0b39b7269cfa1f225a379c5d157338ab430612e5c0f71202429d9a679d99.gif

          • Frostbitten

            You sound like a complete moron. Does Nindy pay you to be a shill?

          • Game_God

            Whatever, I do what I want!!! Why don’t you go fly fishing or something…

      • knimren

        Nintendo pressuring them? What? Nintendo doesn’t pay for reviews and doesn’t pressure them. Do you really think that they would do that to their MAINLINE Mario series? Literally the biggest brand they have? Do you really think that they wouldn’t make sure that the game is excellent?

        Also, a round-based RPG can’t be compared to an open world action adventure, you idiot. Go compare oranges and apples somewhere else.

        • Fandangle

          You’re making an assumption for the company that they’re above to when every other gaming company has been caught doing it. On top of the fact that they’ve recently went through a upper management shift and the fact they’re adopting several policies that are overall turning them into just another multiplat producer like Sony and MS.

          Also, a round-based RPG can’t be compared to an open world action adventure, you idiot. Go compare oranges and apples somewhere else.

          except you can compare them.

    • Justin McQuillen

      Yeah right dude, they will DEFINITELY try to find some plebware that they can somehow try to pretend stands up to these masterpeices, exactly like they did when they tried to say that one generic PS4 open world game did anything but pale in comparison to BOTW. They will try to say Cuphead was better or something.

  • I love the fact that two magnificent Switch games will be going at it for GOTY but I’m a bit sad that only one will come out as a winner when both titles deserve that honor. With the Switch having Breath Of The Wild and Super Mario Odyssey all in the same year the system has the greatest year one lineup of games ever in gaming history….non disputable

    • TDude73

      I feel the same way, paid. It’s gonna be the most difficult battle for Nintendo seeing two of the best Switch games battle it out for Game of the Year at The Video Game Awards.

      • MajoraMan28

        VGAs suck. The true GOTY is the one that earns most titles in the media.

        • Furthermore, among respected outlets. There’s a lot of unprofessional, inexperienced, and/or Western-biased media here.

    • Eagle367

      And here am I wishing but knowing it won’t happen that XC2 wins it

    • Justin McQuillen

      You’re right, they are gonna have a hard time trying to cover up the damage at the game awards like they did when Splatoon won best shooter and they “accidentally forgot” to give that award to Splatoon that night. It’s not gonna be easy for them to do that. Mario and Zelda aren’t appetizers, we’re talking about the 7 course meal right here, and everybody eats.

  • awng782

    Mario 64 was the first game to ever recieve a perfect score on Edge. 21+ years later, things have come full circle.

    • Gizensha

      And for the 20th the Magazine’s awarded, to boot. (Unless you count the three retro-review 10s or the 7 9s amended years later to 10s)

      • awng782

        4 Mario games and 3 Zelda games have received 10/10s on Edge.

        Nintendo’s 3D Mario and 3D Zelda developers are easily the best software developers in the industry.

  • OniLink97

    I wonder if the other games could now win GOTY as these two games could split the votes

    • Robert Allen Stivers

      Sonic Mania, FTW?

  • Stephen Yap

    Honestly, I lost faith for EDGE already. I mean, it’s nice that they gave this game a 10, but it’s not enough for me to look away from the scores they gave for other games, most of which are cringingly questionable. How is the very good Super Bomberman R (they forgot the R in the title. lol) a 4/10 game, especially with the free updates it received in the many months that helped the game similar to Splatoon and ARMS? And the great Pokken Tournament and Yoshi’s Woolly World on Wii U are 6/10 games? That’s blasphemy! I understand that opinions are reflective of one’s own honest thoughts, but I feel that EDGE is basically being far too critical of games that don’t meet their expectations.

    • Rayza

      All those scores are accurate

      • Stephen Yap

        Accurate on what grounds? Super Bomberman R still delivers on the good ol’ fashioned Bomberman gameplay. It got a single player mode after a long while and the multiplayer still kicks butt. Sure, it’s not one of the best in the franchise, but no way in heck is it bad. Pokken Tournament, while not an amazing fighting game, is still a fun and unique fighting game. I mean, it may not be a Pokémon game, but it’s still good. I’d even go as far and say that I liked it more than ARMS, which I thought was decent. As for Yoshi’s Woolly World, it’s the first GOOD Yoshi game we got since the one on SNES, especially after how “amazing” Yoshi’s Island DS and New Island were.

        • Gizensha

          Edge rate on a scale similar to the now defunct Amiga Power – They use more of the ten point scale than the highest four numbers, a 6 from Edge is about equivalent to a 7 or 8 from other publications, depending on if they’re willing to give games that are above average but nothing to write home about a 7, or reserve that for the merely average.

          Saying that, they still tend to lean towards the high end of the scale, with 2 games getting the 1 and 20 getting the 10.

    • Sinton

      When it comes to Super Bomberman R, it was panned by several critics, and many of the updates were fixed of things that were broken.

    • Constantinos Lapiotis

      You loose your faith for no logical reasons. Re-evaluate your faith.

    • dang69

      4 is a bit low for Bomberman R. At launch I’d say it was a 6.5

  • Rodrigo Coelho Costa Junior

    wait. ANOTHER EDGE PERFECT SCORE THIS YEAR?
    and for Nintendo AGAIN???

    • TDude73

      Yes… again!

    • Gizensha

      Hopefully this isn’t a sign they’re opening the floodgates again. Nine 10s over the 2007 to 2011 period was ridiculous.

      • Rodrigo Coelho Costa Junior

        not so much. they were deserving games. and just a few!
        having 6 publications accross the world with different writers who altogether review hundres of games per year and having only Twenty 10/10 in almost a 25 year of history of the magazine is impressive

  • Rodrigo Coelho Costa Junior

    I just edited the Wikipedia article to include Super Mario Odyssey to the list of their 10/10 games.
    Anyone know THE NUMBER OF THIS MAGAZINE ISSUE?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edge_(magazine)

    • Jeff Moreira

      309 I believe.

      • John Pickford

        Its 312. December issue.

        • Rodrigo Coelho Costa Junior

          wait, december?
          we are in october.

          • John Pickford

            The date on a magazine is the date it’s supposed to be taken off the shelf. So it’s always a month or so ahead.

          • Rodrigo Coelho Costa Junior

            I see. thanks!

      • Rodrigo Coelho Costa Junior

        thanks

        • Gabriel Dalposso

          Changed it again. You forgot to change from twenty to twenty one games 😉

          • Rodrigo Coelho Costa Junior

            that’s right!
            you guys are awesome

  • Tlink7

    Gotta love that the guy who took the foto did not care about the conclusion at all, just about the number

    • John Pickford

      I took the photo. It was just to prove I had the magazine and I posted it on Rllmuk forum.

      I don’t think you can draw any conclusion about what I care about.

      • Tlink7

        I should have probably worded my feelings in a different way. What I meant to say was something along the lines of me disagreeing how much emphasis we place on a mere number in the (gaming) review scene. I meant no offense to you personally

        Fancy the chances of you seeing my comment though, eh? 😛

  • Sinton

    Off to a promising start.

  • Fandangle

    “Review embargo” “perfect score” “exclusive”

    About 50 red flags just went up.

    • Bart

      I gotta admit this thought had crossed my mind as well, but I’d be very surprised if this game isn’t very good, it certainly looks like a winner.

      • Fandangle

        Yeah, 3d mario games are always solid and I’ve seen nothing to lead me to believe it’s a bad game, but a perfect game? I think this is going to be another BOTW situation where the game is overhyped and over rated despite doing nothing particularly new and having some obvious flaws as well as a lot of presentation issues.

        • Devlind

          Here, take a perfect cookie. Oh, I’m sorry, it doesn’t exist. Why? Because nothing is perfect. A 10 doesn’t mean that it’s perfect, it just means that it a was a work well done. An A+ in a test doesn’t mean you’re perfect or the smartest f*ck in the world after all, it just means that you successfully approved the presented points.

          • Fandangle

            A 10 means that despite minor flaws that it is truly an innovative game deserves praise. It is a perfect score meant for games that are seemingly perfect or games with flaws that are ignorable in the grand scheme of things. A 9 means that it is a great game but doesn’t do anything exceptionally new. 8 means it’s just a good game. 7 men as its exceptionally above average, 6 means it’s pretty average but still quality enough and enjoyable 5 is just average all around, 2-4 is various levels of boring trash games and 1 is just a borderline unplayable mess. Most people seem to think a ten point score is 7-10. Which is a problem.

            An A+ in a test doesn’t mean you’re perfect or the smartest f*ck in the world after all, it just means that you successfully approved the presented points.

            on just one test or paper? No. It does mean you’re exceptional in that regard. If you score 100s on everything then yes you would be one of the smartest people in the world.

            In general most rating systems in the gaming industry are beyond crap. There’s a lot of reasons to not trust high scores. Since the game is highly anticipated they are afraid of fanboys over reacting to a lower score, Nintendo could be pressuring them into high scores as well and paying them off in some way, or the journalist himself just caught up in the hype. In fact I find all of those infinitely more believable than the possibility than mario odyssey is a truly exceptional example of a video game considering past mario games and considering how corrupt and ridiculous gaming journalists are in general.

          • Devlind

            My my, I don’t want to start an argument since I think both of us believe firmly in our stands, and to be honest, I don’t care enough about it.

            For me, a 10 doesn’t mean that it must be innovative or near flawless. It just means that the gameplay, graphics and music (the holy grail of scores for me) are good enough to approve. You just mentioned that if you score 100 on everything it means you’re the smartests, but I still disagree. Even with that, you may not know how to change a tire, do taxes correctly, or even cheat with your partner. Those are flaws and a lot of people would think that you aren’t perfect, even with all of those 100. Why? because at the end of the day the score only measures how good enough you’re in whatever you’re being rated. The same for games.

            And you’re right, maybe some reviews are rigged, but that’s another topic.

          • Fandangle

            That’s not how a ten point system is supposed to work though, or even grading systems. A school’s grading system isn’t designed to judge content but structure and logic. Judging media is different than that. School grading systems only judge on one subject and if you get 100 in all of the class you’re considered an exceptional student. The typical rating system for literally every other media is 5 is the average 10 is exceptional.

          • Devlind

            Well, you are contradicting yourself now. Originally you were doubtful about the game being perfect because it got a 10, and now you say that 10 is just exceptional. You may be aware of this, but exceptional doesn’t mean perfect.

            “That’s not how a ten point system is supposed to work though, or even grading systems.”

            The truth is, even if you say so, that’s how they work. They exist to measure certain parameters, just that. That’s why there’s no category 6 on the Saffir-Simpson scale, because it was designed to measure damage towards human-designed structures, not wind speed, tide height or pressure. Gaming scores are designed to weight on gameplay, music and visuals (some even consider story, replay value, multiplayer, etc. if the game has them) If a game does great in every aspect available, it will score a 10. Easy as that.

            That doesn’t mean that it’ll appeal to everyone or that it doesn’t have any flaws, it just means that it was good enough to approve on everything that was being reviewed.

            That you think that it deserves it or not (or even if you think that that’s not how it works) doesn’t matter. If you aren’t ok with that, well, make your own review, score it and go on with life.

            “A school’s grading system isn’t designed to judge content but structure and logic. Judging media is different than that.”

            I find this unrelated, but I’ll answer. I don’t know about you, but thinking that media isn’t judged with structure/logic in mind is a little funny since MEDIA IS STRUCTURE. All the things that you see have been designed with a structure (I’m a writer, and I tell you, structure is everything. Even your favorite movie/game/book/TV show is formulaic), so telling me otherwise makes me assume that you have a very slight view on the topic.

          • Fandangle

            Well, you are contradicting yourself now. Originally you were doubtful
            about the game being perfect because it got a 10, and now you say that
            10 is just exceptional. You may be aware of this, but exceptional
            doesn’t mean perfect.

            I use Exceptional because it’s hard to describe a game with minor flaws but unique enough and innovative enough to actually be worth a perfect score.

            The truth is, even if you say so, that’s how they work.

            So we’re treating devs like elementary school kids instead of adults and contuing to use broken grading systems were games are rater a 7/10 being they didn’t pay us enough and this is a bad game, 8/10 being this is good but we don’t know how to properly convey what we didn’t like about it, 9/10 meaning this someone didn’t pay us enough for a 10, and 10/10 meaning “please ignore all our new console themed merchandise, it is unrelated and didn’t effect our score!” in Edge’s case with Mario here it would be “Please ignore the fact that Nintendo made an exception for us so we can get an incredibly coveted exclusive to an overhyped game that fanboys will likely rage about if it gets anything lower than a 9 and sometimes even if it does get a nine, which also ensures that we have higher sales as we’re the first ones who ‘critically’ review the whole game!”

            The grading system is dumb. I don’t know how many more ways I can convey it. It’s pure bad. You only use 4 points, so why not use a 4 point grading system? It’s what Roger Ebert did and he used it incredibly well. 1 is bad, 2 is below average, 3 is average, 4 is above average, and 5 is that exceptional game that comes out every couple of years that is just so fun and inventive that it genuinely deserves to be set apart from the rest. And yet you defend this ridiculous IGN model that is basically the result of corrupt journalists and editors too scared of losing ad revenue and exclusives, or worse, being blacklisted from game companies because they actually criticize their games.

            They exist to measure certain parameters, just that. That’s why there’s
            no category 6 on the Saffir-Simpson scale, because it was designed to
            measure damage towards human-designed structures, not wind speed, tide
            height or pressure.

            I don’t follow your logic. If the scale never used 1-3 then your comparison would be more accurate.

            Gaming scores are designed to weight on gameplay, music and visuals
            (some even consider story, replay value, multiplayer, etc. if the game
            has them) If a game does great in every aspect available, it will score a
            10. Easy as that.

            That’s totes why God Hand and Wonderful 101 and other “Hard to master” games that are genuinely amazing games I wouldn’t hesitate giving higher end scores like 10/10 because of just how unique and inventive they are are rated low because the reviewer didn’t personally like them, they sped through the story mode, and they rushed the review out. Worse yet you get games like Bioshock infinite which are horrendously bad sequels but average games in their own right getting good scores because they are entirely average games despite doing nothing well. Your rating system doesn’t distinguish “Well made” from “Actually pretty amazing” or anything after, the dumb “10 point but we’re only going to use the last 4 points” rating system is beyond dumb, and I swear it’s only not an issue when I talk to a fanboy.

            I find this unrelated, but I’ll answer.

            I’m going to ignore everything after this point because you CLEARLY didn’t understand what I was talking about so I’m going to dumb it down for you.

            Say your teacher gives you a test and it asks “Add 2+2 and show proof”

            A person writes down on the paper “2+2=4”

            BAM scored a 100.

            The point here is that grading systems here are meant for one person, to show them flaws and to improve upon them to achieve a 100 score. A person who always achieves 100s is quite posisbly the smartest person in the world because they have enough knowledge to achieve 100s consistently. I’d love to hear why you don’t think so however. It’s designed to grade LOGIC and STRUCTURE in the basest sense of the word. Games cannot be graded like this. Movies cannot be graded like this. TV shows cannot be graded like this. Music cannot be graded like this. Nothing but development work can be graded like this.

            Meanwhile game reviews aren’t that. Game reviews are meant to inform a customer on quality. I can think of several grading algorithms off the top of my head that are better than it. I also think a huge part of the problem is that there is no proper format for reviews, so many websites don’t disclose their process and their reviews read like glorified fluff pieces that are entirely too wordy and say little to nothing about the actual game. I’ve read so many reviews that are just pure padding for article size that I’ve just grown sick of it. You being a writer doesn’t really tell me much. sure, you could know writing structure but you need a particular mindset to actually be critical of something and then put those critical thoughts and feelings and interpret them into objective viewpoints and then words for an article and then condense that into a grading system. The way 99% of all video game websites approach this is backwards, or sometimes even worse, informed or biased by conflict of interest, personal fanboyism, or outside hype or fanboy pressure.

          • Devlind

            Oh jeez, I said I didn’t want to start an argument and here I am in front of a wall of text. I’m a weak man.

            After finishing reading your comment, I see no reason to write another wall of text aswering you. It seems we’re talking about completely different stuff.

            My point was that a 10 doesn’t equal anything special that needs to be set apart, it just means that it is good enough that it approved on every aspect that was being reviewed, no matter if other games/books/movies/whatever did better. You are talking about the process of how the reviewers determine their scores. Whether they are honest, are being paid or just want those clicks, well, there’s no way to stop it or even telling it, so why even bother with it? If you believe that Wonderful 101 deserves a 10, then it doesn’t matter what other people may think about it (great game actually. I can’t believe I got it for free with Club Nintendo). So yeah, I can only say that you shouldn’t worry about it that much.

          • Game_God

            Shut the F*ck up salty baby, if Zelda BOTW does not deserve a 10 & to be considered GOTY, then no game that has ever been made deserves it either, capice???

          • Addy

            Now who’s acting like a kid?

          • Game_God

            Your momma 😮

          • Fandangle

            I wouldn’t even say BotW is the best Zelda game. Best 3D one? Pretty inarguable. I’d still say a few of the 2D games are better.

          • Game_God

            #1 Zelda BOTW (NS)

            #2 Zelda ALTTP (SNES), WW (GC), LA (GB), ALBW (3DS)
            #6 Zelda SS (Wii U)

          • Fandangle

            This says leagues about you.

          • Game_God

            Too bad you’re deaf…

        • cendrizzi

          BOTW was the first game I have loved in many years. I liked a lot of games, Uncharted 4 and much more, but this game made gaming feel fresh again (I also haven’t owned a Nintendo platform for some time).

          I put more time in this game than I ever have any other. While I can respect your opinion there are many people like myself that considered this game a game changer (especially for open world type games).

          Honestly I would suggest you watch the video with Kevin Levine and other developers as they opine on what an amazing accomplishment this game was. The fact that they got so few things wrong when they left it completely up to the gamer to choose his/her path alone is an amazing accomplishment. It’s why Nintendo would take a week off and everyone would just play it (developers, etc) because the number of things that could have gone wrong are just staggering.

          I’m sorry you can’t appreciate the game for what most of us believe it is. It’s Nintendo’s first open world game and yet it pushed the genre far beyond what Ubisoft and Bethesda have been doing for more than a decade.

          Just the fact that people were finding new and interesting ways to play the game months after using the unrestricted physics was such an amazing thing.

          Anyone can do voice work and some other stuff, but the stuff this game got right is FAR harder to do than that stuff. They prioritized the hardest stuff and for most of us the presentation flaws you might have found is silly in comparison (Nintendo has never prioritized voice work and stuff).

          It’s okay that maybe it didn’t hit the right buttons for you but that doesn’t mean that for most of the rest of us this game was one of the best, if not the best, game we have played (it become my personal favorite).

          • Fandangle

            But here’s the thing, it didn’t do anything new, it didn’t accomplish anything games before it accomplished before it just did things competently. The general design of the game is great and it definitely has weak points from obviously cut systems, standards, and performance issues.

            Also I’d trust Ken Levine like I’d trust Peter Molyneux. Levine is so far up his own sherbet hole that I doubt he’d know which way was up. The game just isn’t generic cookie cutter open world like all of ubisoft’s trash and it’s not gimped like most other open worlds. The world is generally well designed and it doesn’t feel like they just slapped it together. It’s certainly well designed and very convenient in its general design but that doesn’t negate several of its issues.

    • awng782

      Those 50 red flags will probably start to go down once more perfect scores start pouring in.

      • Fandangle

        Not really. In fact I’ll probably become more skeptical of it because multiple people don’t have the same taste. It just means that the journos are either bandwaggoning and/or journalism is just too homogenized and is in desperate need of restructuring. Both could be true, I’d honestly would believe both over a mario game being truly exceptional as a video game. I’d accept it if this was actually Mario 64, that game mastered 3D platforming when 3D platforming was brand new and is still enjoyable to this day. I’d accept it with Galaxy because the planet gravity and the level design was truly exceptional additions to the genre. However 3Dworld, despite being thoroughly enjoyable, didn’t really add anything new and was incredibly easy up until the last world. This looks to be pretty much the same, adding nothing genuinely new and relying more on nostalgia pandering.

        Again, I have no doubt it will be a perfectly solid game, it’s just, I think everyone is overhyping it.

        • Game_God

          Spoiler alert: baby crying!!!
          Who stole your pacifier baby???
          Are you gonna cry yourself to death over ZeldaBOTW & Mario Odyssey tidal wave of 10s baby???
          I feel sorry for you… it must gives you terrible nightmares… & no pacifier to comfort you in your teared lonely bed at night… 🙁

          • Fandangle

            Quality posting right here.

          • Game_God

            I knew you would enjoy it, so I indulged you… you’re welcome 😉

    • masterjedi

      Its actually more of a red flag if the review embargo doesn’t end until very close to the game’s release. You see this when a publisher is not confident in the game and worries that poor reviews will hurt sales. The fact that the review embargo has been lifted so early is a very good sign.

      • Fandangle

        Not really. Review embargos in general are a red flag. They’re releasing it now, it’s obviously a marketing tactic. They want people to say “OH IT GOT A 10 THIS EARLY!?” and it’ll draw attention to it. The fact that this was an Edge exclusive too means that the Edge had a HUGE conflict of interest here because nintendo was making a special exception for them and nintendo was relying on them for marketing.

        Any of these phrases individually is one thing, but all of them together, this is pretty blatant marketing.

        • masterjedi

          Obviously it’s marketing but there’s nothing wrong with it. I think you have an idea that review embargoes are not widely used but that’s not the case. Large publishers use them all the time and it’s not limited to the game industry, movie studios use them too.

          As for Edge’s exclusivity, that’s how an embargo works. Publishers send review copies of the game to select reviewers with the embargo intact. This gives the reviewers time to thoroughly review the game without worrying that someone else is going to beat them to press. The publisher chooses when to lift the embargo. If the publisher is confident in the game the embargo is lifted early because it’s great press to get those high scores out there early. If not, they keep the embargo in place to prevent poor scores from hurting early sales. For example, Ubisoft kept the embargo on Assassin’s Creed 4 in place until 12 hours after launch.

          • Fandangle

            Except no, that’s not why embargos exist or how they’re used.

            The case for edge Is ESPECIALLY troublesome because they alone are allowed to release their review. If the embargo was decided before hand then that creates creates a conflict of interest because Edge would want more exclusives like this to boost sales. If it was decided after then nintendo is deceiving audiences by only allowing higher scores out first to give consumers consumers a false impression.

            No matter how you put this exclusive embargo lift it’s just scummy.

          • masterjedi

            https://youtu.be/qRcCSYX-wLI

            Here’s a video that does a good job of discussing what a review embargo is and how they are used.

            https://www.gameskinny.com/5mzpa/what-exactly-is-a-game-embargo

            Here’s a written article that discusses the same topic.

            There’s nothing scummy about Nintendo giving a reporter (in this case Edge) the scoop on a story (the story being the opportunity to review Odyssey before anyone else.) This is a part of journalism. There’s no conflict of interest because Nintendo could easily blacklist Edge for a negative review whether or not Edge’s review was first or simultaneous with others.

          • Fandangle

            Here’s the problem here:

            Gaming journalists are the problem. Trusting them while talking about their reviews is like trusting nintendo when they’re talking about their own games. They’ll say anything to get people to buy it or to recuse themselves of ANY form of guilt on anything negative that comes up.

            There’s no conflict of interest because Nintendo could easily blacklist Edge for a negative review whether or not Edge’s review was first or simultaneous with others.

            I’m sorry but are you literally retarded? That’s a textbook example OF conflict of interest. The pressure to not get blacklisted would drive the review score up because EDGE is a business in a failing industry desperate for clicks and magazine sales to the point that they’re easily malleable. You’re either incredibly stupid or incredibly gullible.

          • masterjedi

            I see. The problem here is you do not trust game reviewers. For you, it doesn’t matter if they review a game early or at the same time as every other reviewer, you think they all give good scores because they don’t want to be blacklisted by developers and publishers. In your world, the only honest game review is a poor one.

            I do like how you completely ignored the fact that both the video AND the article supported the way I said review embargoes worked. You latched straight onto part where they explained how a publisher/developer COULD use them to blacklist a reviewer. The bottom line is you are wrong about what a review embargo is, why they exist and what their purpose is.

            Your logic is poor and your attitude is poor. I was trying to have a civil conversation with you but when your arguments started to turn into Swiss cheese you resorted to calling me names. Did you think that was going to sway me in some way? Did you think I was going to respond in kind by insulting you thus allowing you to play the role of victim? Not this day. In the future, I hope you get a better handle on the way you present yourself online. These are real people you are interacting with and the protective bubble of anonymity the internet affords you doesn’t change that. I hope you get better at online conversation with future people but you have exhausted your opportunity to interact with me. Have a good day and enjoy your gaming. Blocked.

          • Fandangle

            I see. The problem here is you do not trust game reviewers. For you, it

            doesn’t matter if they review a game early or at the same time as every
            other reviewer,

            No. I literally stated this twice now. Are you trolling? It’s hard to tell whether you’re trolling or if you’re just a dumbfluff. I don’t trust this situation in the LEAST, and neither should anyone with a brain between their ears. Since you seem to have fudge for brains I’ll break it down again for you.

            Edge wants sales.
            Nintendo wants sales.
            Nintendo gives edge a review copy.
            Nintendo tells edge they can release their review early.
            Edge is pressured to write a good review.
            If Edge does not write a good review then Nintendo may not let them release their review early.
            If Edge does not write a good review then Nintendo may not give them review copies next time.
            Edge really wants sales.
            Edge really needs to cash in on the Mario Odyssey overhype.
            Edge bumps up the review score a few points.
            Edge does this by actively lying to consumers.
            Edge and Nintendo are happy, both are getting sales.
            Customers are lied to.

            you think they all give good scores because they don’t
            want to be blacklisted by developers and publishers. In your world, the
            only honest game review is a poor one.

            No. You’re the one who brought up blacklisting. I pointed it out as an example. Also you haven’t proven this review is honest yet, all the evidence points to the contrary. Both the article and the video don’t connect the body to the conclusion in the least. They ESPECIALLY don’t connect in any way to something you’ve said.

            I do like how you completely ignored the fact that both the video AND the article supported the way I said review embargoes worked.

            Except they didn’t. They literally didn’t. Again, I have to ask if you’ve actually read the article.

            . You latched straight onto part where they explained how a
            publisher/developer COULD use them to blacklist a reviewer. The bottom
            line is you are wrong about what a review embargo is, why they exist and
            what their purpose is.

            Except I am right about what an embargo is. I’m trying to explain to you why they’re bullfudge and shouldn’t be trusted. Meanwhile you’re too busy acting like a weird fudgepucking fanboy who simultaniously presents evidence that completely contradicts your own claims but also acts holier than thou, provides no real arguments of your own, and can’t formulate for fudge.

            An embargo exists because Publishers want early advertising and hype and journos want early clicks so they can make money off people on that game’s hype, except journalists are wholly reliant on publishers for this. They could easily smother out journalists who review their games in a negative light by giving them extended embargos. Journalists in this situation are almost actively ENCOURAGED for better reviews. This is why I don’t trust ANY embargo review. Most of all I don’t trust an EXCLUSIVE embargo review because that means even MORE pressure for a reviewer to give a good score. And it’s not even just the reviewer. There are editors and website admins and executives that can change this sort of thing before the globstuffed article is even on the website. INB4 you fail to address this once again.

            Your logic is poor and your attitude is poor. I was trying to have a
            civil conversation with you but when your arguments started to turn into
            Swiss cheese you resorted to calling me names.

            No. Arguments don’t become invalid because someone called you a name. I’m making fun of you because you clearly are some kind of mentally deficient donkey stuffer who can’t think critically. I almost wonder if you’re one of those people who believes everything posted on the internet.

            If you’re really serious I can explain exactly why you’re wrong and I can break down both the video and the article for you, but holy fudgesnacks you’re so far off the mark I seriously think you’re trolling here. The only thing you’re telling me here is that your point literally can’t withstand being called stupid. You’re telling me that your argument is weak. And it is, you didn’t make a single argument you linked me to an article that didn’t tell me anything that I didn’t already know.

            I only just now noticed after I typed all this that you said “blocked” but I’ll post anyway. Blocking is a coward’s tactic. You don’t want people to address your points you just want a hugbox where you can say “nuh-uh” and instantly everyone believes you.

    • Game_God

      … and what red flags go up in your head when sony offers game “journalists” consoles, huge oled TVs, invite them them at partie with tons free liquor & escort girls roaming the premises???

      • Fandangle

        A lot more red flags? Just because Sony does a lot as well doesn’t mean any possible missteps that nintendo make are any less bad.

        • Game_God

          You’re right about that, but Nintendo is not known for bribing gaming outlets, on the contrary gaming outlets tend to be overly critical of Nintendo in general… so I don’t see any base for red flags…

          • Fandangle

            Not known doesn’t mean never will. they’re a company who has gone through a recent leadership shift. The fact that they’re more marketing heavy now speaks volumes about their priorities. Gaming outlets were often speculated to only be critical of nintendo because bad publicity and general mongering. You never heard the joke about nintendo not ever paying polygon enough money?

  • Gamingfan

    Make the switch $200 cheaper in australia and Im sold.

    • Velen (Not WoW)

      *Just looked up the price of the Switch in Australia.*

      …God####, for once I agree.

      • R.Z.

        All dollars are not created equal …
        (using the current conversion rate it’s cheaper than in the EU where it sits at 330 €, and it’s “only” about 360 USD, no idea if the Australian price includes taxes though)

    • Jacob

      after converting the currency, it’s only $70 more than the US’s price

      • Devlind

        Where I live it cost $272 more than the USA’s price, so yeah, $70 it’s not that bad.

        • Paddy Alfan

          Woa, mad. Where you live? That Is the price of 2 switch.

          • Devlind

            Not in the USA or Australia 😉

  • Vigilante_blade

    Personally, i don’t beleive in perfect scores, but t’s cool. I just hope there is no motion input forced in it at all. If so, I will buy it.

    • Sinton

      You don’t believe in using the entire scale?

      • Vigilante_blade

        In theory, yes, but a ten to me implies flawless. And flawless games do not exist, and will never exist. Evne what I consider the greatest game ever made, Smash Bros. Melee, I’d give no higher than a 9.8

        • Sinton

          Did you ever get an A in school? Was it a flawless paper?

          • Vigilante_blade

            I have. This is how most of my university courses went. A+, mostly, a few A’s, a handful if A-. And in such cases where I got an A+, I had no grammatical errors, and my methodology followed all of the rules that a researcher should follow. In a sense, it was flawless.

          • Sinton

            So you’re saying it would be impossible to improve those papers you got an A+ on?

          • Vigilante_blade

            The purpose of research is to add to the pool of knowledge. As long as terms are clearly defined, the variables and methodology are disclosed in an honest and thorough manner, your research is perfect. Whether the conclusion lines up with your thesis statement or not is irrelevant as your goal is to seek out results, not predict them. You are comparing apples and oranged because in the case of research, any and all papers that use consistent methodology honestly can be deemed perfect. Research is not an art form. It is an academic endeavour.

          • Sinton

            And what’s the purpose of video games?

          • Vigilante_blade

            To serve as entertainement. Research is reliant on facts. Once you found said facts, that’s it; you achieved you goal. On to the next step.

            Entertaining people is not as clear cut an endeavour.

          • Sinton

            But when you rate a video game, isn’t the question «on a scale from x to y, how entertained were you?» I don’t get why you say that Melee is your favorite video game of all time, but if you wrote for EDGE, you would rate it 9 out of 10…

          • Vigilante_blade

            I don’t know for you, but even with a game like Melee that I consider unrivaled, I can still see flaws with it, hence why we made changes in Project M. Even now, I look at the game that I helped make, and while I am very proud of it, I would go back and tweak some things if I could. A game without a flaw is impossible.

          • Sinton

            I agree that a game without flaw is impossible, but my point is that goes for everything in life: video games, art, school papers, beer. I’m sure you could have improved something on one of you A+ papers as well, but that doesn’t mean you didn’t deserve the best score possible.

            I do agree with you that 5 should be average, though.

          • Vigilante_blade

            I think out disgreement really just stems from how we define things. I think we’re mostly on the same page.

          • masterjedi

            I think a review score is objective and thus it can be deemed a perfect game in the eyes of any reviewer. Like you said, its a form of entertainment so my score on a game is based on how much I was entertained by that game. I think the big thing is a reviewer has to justify why they scored a game whatever they scored it. For instance if I am into motion controls and I love the way motion controls are implemented in a game, I might deem the control scheme perfect. But then I need to state that as my reason for saying the controls are perfect instead of just saying “the controls were perfect.”

            As to your other point, I tend to think 7 out of 10 is average because that’s 70%. To me a 5 is a failure because that’s 50%. I have always considered average games 7, good games 8, great games 9 and truly once in a lifetime experiences 10. Some examples for me personally:

            Breath of the Wild-10
            Super Mario Galaxy-9
            Metroid Prime-8
            ZombiU-7

          • Vigilante_blade

            If it is your feelings, then it is subjective. However, whike reviews are subjective, they should at the very least take into account divisive features and score down appropriately. I loved playing through Bad Dudes. It isnnit a really good game.

          • masterjedi

            That’s fair.

          • AJK

            You don’t get A’s at university. You get 1st 2nd or 3rd (or 2.1. 2.2 etc).

          • Vigilante_blade

            In Canada, you certainly do. Try to consider worldwide perspectives.

          • AJK

            Doesn’t take away the point that a 1.1 or A* doesn’t mean you are perfect. Neither does a 10 mean perfect. Your logic is broken

          • Vigilante_blade

            Depends. In research, an A+ means that you have perfectly fulfilled the conditions to making a solid piece of research with good methodology. In tests, it means that you flawlessly answered every single question (Well, 95% or more), but a perfect score would mean that you performed with perfection. Video games however cannot and will never be perfect. Game design isn’t as easy to “get right”. In fact, it is impossible to make a game that makes every single person happy.

          • AJK

            I studied molecular biology at uni and have done a lot of research based work. Research is also never 100% perfect. You are also comparing 2 completely different things. An entertainment product is subjective. Plus, again, every review site or publication has an explanation of what their ratings mean. Edge for example specifies that a 10 doesn’t mean perfection.

          • Vigilante_blade

            I’ve already made the argument that enrtainement is subjective. That was my entire point. Nevertheless, I am of the opinion that 10 means perfect. And their scale is flawed.

          • AJK

            So your opinion is that a reviewer means perfect when they give a 10, even when the magazine itself states that a 10 doesn’t mean perfect? Riiiiight.

          • Vigilante_blade

            It means they are misusing the scale.

        • Devlind

          It doesn’t mean it’s flawless. When you get a “perfect” score at school it doesn’t mean you’re perfect, it just means that you successfully approved the presented points. For me, game scores work like that. If it gets a 10, it means it just approved everything that there is to approve, but it doesn’t mean that it’s perfect.

          • Vigilante_blade

            I do not see it that way. Ten implies perfect. 5 should be average. IMO

          • Devlind

            Well, have it your way.

        • AJK

          Edge doesnt award on a scale just flat, whole numvers. A 10 in a review doesnt imply perfection either. Each publication or site usually gives an explaination of their ratings.

          • Vigilante_blade

            Their scale is bad, then. Also, scores shuldn’t really exist. People should read first and foremost.

          • AJK

            Then why are you obsessing over a score? You are not a very rational person

          • Vigilante_blade

            Aren’t you the ones beating that poor deceased horse? I stated my opinion and it honestly should have been left at that. In the end, you should have told me how you saw things, I would have disagreed, and we would have simply decided to agree to disagree on the matter.

    • TruExtent

      A little late to the discussion but I got to play the demo at SD Comic Con earlier this year. I’m glad to say there’s no forced motion control from what I played. Everything you need was mapped to a physical button. HOWEVER I did discover one optional motion control. I was playing with two Joy Cons separated. I found I flailed a little at one point for whatever reason and discovered this: If you flick the right Joy Con, Mario will toss Cappy. The same action can be performed by simply pressing the Y button. But I will say once I discovered this I reverted to my days of Mario Galaxy and just used the flick of the wrist to flick Cappy around. It felt satisfying to me. In my time I didn’t pause or anything to see if this can be turned off but I would hope Nintendo smarten up and made it turn off-able. They did this for MK8Deluxe and I can only assume they’ll make it an option in Odyssey.

  • Roto Prime

    You had a good run Zelda BOTW…time to get dethroned!!

    • Devlind

      That’s only one score. Let other reviewers put their thoughts in and then we can talk about it.

      • Roto Prime

        D…D..D..D..Dethroned!!!!!!

        • Devlind

          D…D..D..D..DIZNUT- ok no.

          • Roto Prime

            LOLOL, hey you tried!!! And I got a good laugh!! Thanks <3

  • Jacob Groves

    DAY ONE BUY!!! Ofc I had preordered it already. Cannot wait.

    Knowing master Mario get his own another masterpiece game once again after Super Mario Galaxy 2!!!

  • awng782
    • Devlind

      I don’t know how to feel about this.

  • Devlind

    I just hope there’s a great reward for collecting all the power moons. I haven’t collected all the korok seeds yet in BotW (I’m missing 108 and I’m not using a guide to track them down), but I’ve heard that the reward is not very good (please don’t spoil it here). Still, it’s great to return to this after the Galaxy/3D-esque games (altough I will miss 3D World. Its multiplayer is so much fun).

    • It is not good. I got spoiled. I guess it’s about the challenge for that one, but yes; I also hope there’s a great, worthwhile reward in Mario at least.

      Galaxy has become my favorite Mario game, but 3D World was pretty special to me. I played it by chance with my friends (I wasn’t going to play at all), and we always had such a blast, no matter who was playing. I hope Nintendo can replicate it at some point on the Switch.

  • hankosanko

    a bit early to review a game that hasnt come out for another 2 weeks

  • PachterStation

    So, if a game scores 10 out of 10 or 100%, it’s a perfect game? There’s no such score. I’ll admit that the graphics look tip top and there seems to be new game play elements, but we all know the score with games like Super Mario, be it 2D or 3D. But Edge has been a joke with its review for years, which is why I cancelled my subscription around 2 years ago. Lastly, if a game scores 5 out of 10 or 50%, that’s an average score, meaning an average game. But with that, publishers and developers would start World War III with such a review score. But that’s part of the corruption within gaming. You scratch my back and I’ll scratch yours.

    • TDude73

      Boring comment.

    • TDude73

      Why the hell are you thumbing up your asshurt comment, douchebag?

      • Addy

        Why are acting like a little kid?

        • Game_God

          Why are you?

          • Addy

            Ask the guy above that question.

          • Game_God

            No, I’m asking you 😛

  • Josh Morland

    Nintendo kills it with their software IP yet again. Too bad I’ll miss out on it.

  • Rodrigo Coelho Costa Junior

    This is the first time in HISTORY that the same company gets TWO perfect 10/10 golden scores from EDGE in the same year.

    Way to go Nintendo

  • Brennan Cregan

    To be fair, they also gave Skyward Sword a 10/10.

    I mean, really?

    • Devlind

      Well, I think it doesn’t deserve that 10, but neither the hate that it gets from a selected group of people. Reviews shouldn’t be treated like some kind of definitive score, that’s why we have a plethora of reviews to read nowadays that may look into whatever other reviewers missed, so yeah, don’t worry about that.

  • Connor Johnson

    It’s too bad Jimquisition isn’t doing scored reviews anymore! Would be fun to watch people freak out at him lowering the Metacritic score. :p

  • Rich Scales

    lol of course it gets a perfect score…. if mario or zelda is in the title they give it a perfect score…. ive yet to play one I actually thought was NEARLY as great as they say it is….. maybe its because Im not 12 anymore

  • tyler roberts

    a big Nintendo game gets a perfect score by a major review magazine? Nintendo’s advertising budget is as big as always.

Related Game Info


Platform: SWITCH
Genre: PLATFORMER
Publisher: Nintendo
Developer: Nintendo
Release date: October 27, 2017
OWN IT: 2 [I own this game]
BEAT IT: 0 [I beat this game]
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