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Details from EDGE’s Super Mario Odyssey review

Posted on October 14, 2017 by (@NE_Brian) in News, Switch

Despite being two weeks away, Super Mario Odyssey already received its first review this week. UK magazine EDGE published a verdict in its latest issue. It couldn’t have been better, with Super Mario Odyssey being given a perfect 10.

If you’re interested in what EDGE actually said about the game, you can find some tidbits from the review below. There isn’t much in the way of spoilers, but a couple of points may touch on things that you may want to know for yourself – like the rough number of capture possibilities. So keep that in mind before proceeding.

– There are 50-odd capture possibilites. ‘It pays close attention to the physics and handling of each of these new forms, making each one enjoyable to command’.

– The transformations ‘are not always essential, and in many cases Mario’s repertoire is enough to get by, though it’s often quicker or easier to make the switch. Sometimes you’ll bench Mario for the simple novelty of playing as something else’.

– ‘Even leaving Cappy out of the equation, our hero has been furnished with his most expansive moveset to date….it’s tempting to say Mario has never felt better in the palms.’

– Portable mode feels a little like a compromise compared to playing with Joy-Cons in separate hands, partly because it can be hard to make out distant targets on the smaller screen. The TV feels like Odyssey’s natural home.

– There are a clutch of stage-specific quests that offer more traditional, structured progression but generally you’re free to choose what you do next.

– ‘Not all activities are created equal but you’re never far from a brilliant new idea or a clever twist on an old one’

– Mario’s finest ever selection of boss fights.

– ‘The party continues in the postgame too’ but no explicit details. There’s some kind of spoilery stuff about references to earlier games

– ‘There is a lot of BOTW in SMO, from the chance to scout out potential destinations from high above ground, to the way the soundtrack often lets you acclimatise to your surroundings in relative quiet before the stage’s theme announces itself. But it’s most obvious in the way its environments appeal to your natural curiosity, sights and sounds teasing you away from your present path – and in its sheer volume of diversions.

– ‘Link may have more Korok seeds to find than Mario has moons, but not by many.’

– ‘Odyssey feels like a true reinvention of the sandbox platformer’

– ‘by giving you a broader number of ways to collect moons, it’s a game that’s more considerate of every type of player’

– ‘Peach, for her part, is no damsel in distress and her role expands in the post-game, although not in the way you might expect’.

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  • Pachirisu

    is it possible to die from too much hype???

    I can already feel this is going to be a an instant classic and will be remembered just as fondly as SM64

    • Eagle367

      I am a university student. I don’t have the budget but I am forced to pick either Xenoblade 2 or Mario Odyssey. Will someone give a generous donation to a fellow gamer.
      P.s: the low budget part is true but I am not begging for cash or the game just want it so damn bad

  • Vigilante_blade

    Why do reviews never go in depth into controls?

    • KnightWonder

      It’s a Mario game.

      • Vigilante_blade

        Where controls are the most important aspect.

        • KnightWonder

          Right, and so far, people have been praising them. Saying they’re tight and fluid.

          • Vigilante_blade

            And some have said they were terrible. ANd even if they were good, some dislike motions

          • KnightWonder

            You can turn off motion controls.

          • Vigilante_blade

            They only stated you could throw cappy with a button. That is all.

          • KnightWonder

            I’m telling you, there won’t be any motion controls for the pro controller.

          • Vigilante_blade

            Prove it to me and we can stop having this back and forth.

          • KnightWonder

            Okay. Where in Mario Odyssey do you have to aim?

          • Vigilante_blade

            I don’t know, because Nintendo has not given us official confirmation. You know, it is possible that it is optional, and I am not discounting that possibility, but Nintendo has never confirmed it.

          • KnightWonder

            http://nintendoeverything.com/super-mario-odyssey-details-controls-gameplay-variety-diverse-kingdoms-more/

            And yes, it does support Gyro. However, it’s still optional, with having the throw also mapped to buttons.

          • Vigilante_blade

            Throws, yes. But what about the rest? Can you speed up a bullet bill further with a pro controller? I’ve only seen “shake” prompts. Can you attack with a cheep cheep? I’ve only seem shake prompts. Can you completely turn it off? Because having the option to press a button woill still be frustrating if it registers your movements when trying to avoid motions. Those were not confirmed yet.

          • KnightWonder

            Like I’ve said, during the Treehouse, they stated motion controls can be turned off.

          • Vigilante_blade

            Prove it to me, then.

          • StrawhatEevee

            Why is it on him to prove it to you? Look it up yourself. They said directly that the joycons have motion controls, but the pro controller does not. How would that even be possible anyway?

          • Vigilante_blade

            If you’re ging to make an absolute comment, then you must be able to back it up. He has been unable to.

            I have at least found “some” evidence to show some concern at the very least. It’s not completely conclusive, but it is better than the nothing he provided.

            https://youtu.be/M_R2IG-KDnA?t=316

            I see plenty of people claiming that they are completely optinal, yet NO ONE has managed to come up with undeniable evidence.

          • StrawhatEevee

            Giantbomb is a joke of an outlet. Nintendo DIRECTLY stated it in the Treehouse Stream. We told you where to find it. If you care enough to leave a ridiculous string of comments, why do you not care enough to check out the stream you were directed to? You’re the one obsessing over it. Why would we pour back over 20 hours of footage to get you a time stamp for something we already know that you refuse to believe? Do it yourself.

          • Vigilante_blade

            GiantBomb has fantastic reviews that give a lot of information. I have already scoured through the entire Treehouse streams when they happened and they never made a mention that it would be fully optional, I have done my research. However, the burden of truth is on the one making the claims. If someone is trying to tell me tha tmotion controls are fully optional, then they should be able to back it up. I did not make that wild claim, he did. If he’s scared that he can’t find it, not my problem.

          • StrawhatEevee

            It’s not a wild claim, genius. They said it during the stream whether you want to believe it or not. Do a quick reddit search like I just did to verify and you’ll find dozens of people referencing it.

            It was during one of the night time segments of the desert kingdom. One of the guys on the treehouse stream said something akin to “Sorry, I’m used to joycon motion controls. When using the pro controller, it’s harder to control the hat spin.”

            I also like you’re lecturing people on giving definitive statements that are just facts about something someone said, but you’re giving definitive statements about opinions. My opinion is that Giantbomb is absolute trash. If I feel that way, it can’t be a definitive statement, can it? Please back up your wild claims and prove to me with a seventeen page dissertation that Giantbomb has fantastic reviews. Include charts and graphs. This will count for 70% of your grade.

          • Vigilante_blade

            Then link me to the statement. And your statement does not clearly say that motion controls are optional.

            This is not how debating works. Someoen makes a bold statement, and I ask for proof, then they respond with “No, YOU show me proof”. What this tells me is that you don’t have evidence ad are trying to shift your responsibility to me.

          • PanurgeJr

            They *did* give you proof: recollection of the Treehouse broadcast. *You* disputed that with no evidence of your own.

          • Vigilante_blade

            They just told me it was in Treehouse. That is true. However, anyone could just say that. I could easily say that Treehouse confirmed that Luigi was playable (which is untrue). If I don’ tprovide you with the part of the video that says that, and I say “No, YOU go watch the entire thing to confirm it”, then that is an unreasonable demand. He has to back himself up.

          • PanurgeJr

            So basically you are assuming anyone commenting could be lying? Less of a reason to listen to your arguments.

          • Vigilante_blade

            I don’t necessarily assume that the person nex tto me is lying, albeit this is always a possibility. Misremembering can also be it. But he claimed tha tmotions ar eoptional, I invite him to find the quote and link it to me. The three of you have been incapable of doing so. Plus, Evee, and KnightWonder very much dislike me. I don’ tput much trust in them at face value.

          • PanurgeJr

            You haven’t proven they dislike you.

          • Vigilante_blade

            I think Evee had proven it herself by calling me a psychopath

          • PanurgeJr

            Doesn’t mean Eevee dislikes you. Besides, you haven’t proven he or she is a she.

          • Vigilante_blade

            Whatever the case, I see your game. You are wasting my time.

          • PanurgeJr

            Given that you could have stopped an hour ago and I could do nothing to stop you from stopping, didn’t you just waste your own time?

          • Vigilante_blade

            I try to keep some faith in humanity.

          • PanurgeJr

            You mean, you give people as much of an opportunity to agree with you as possible. Because I’ve yet to see evidence that you believe people can disagree with you but be honest in doing so.

          • dzzy

            I do not know you, but with this false logic you could be one…

          • JasonBall

            He gave a link to an article where a guy who played it before launch says they’re required.

          • StrawhatEevee

            It’s not a debate you psychopath. You asked a question. Someone answered. If you choose not to accept that answer and everyone else backing up the answer, that’s on you.

            If this were Bumbleton, North Dakota’s regional debate championship, I’m sure you’d be the best, little buddy, but it’s a freaking Switch game where you asked a question, someone was nice enough to answer, and you’re having some weird hissy fit about your perceived possibility of motion controls. You. can. turn. them. off. If you don’t believe anyone here, don’t want to do a reddit search yourself, and don’t want to go to the treehouse section I’m telling you where it was said, then you’ll just have to live with this terrible fate of motion control uncertainty purgatory, because that’s as good as you’re going to get.

          • Vigilante_blade

            Psychopath? Aren’t you taking it waaaay too far? Again, I’v enot seen the so-called evidence. Give me the evidence, and if it is sensible, I will beleive you. Also, StrawhatEvee. I will ask you to apologize. Accusing someone of being a psychopath is a grave accusation.

          • StrawhatEevee

            Here’s your apology. You’re a nutcase. You either are way too committed to some bizarre form of trolling or you’re really that concerned with motion controls and the art of debate. Either way, it’s pathetic and may Arceus have mercy on your disgusting soul.

            As for your inquiry, I’ll state this one more time. It’s in the desert section during the night time portion when they unveil the watered down two player mode. It’s where they are showing off grabbing the purple coins with the hat spin and he is using the pro controller to perform said spin. He falls from the palm tree trying to grab them and says he’s used to using joycons where there’s motion controls. If you’re too lazy to go to the video yourself, then people that don’t give a crap about your concern are certainly not going to be motivated enough to do so for you. It’s a miracle someone even detailed which video it is and gave you a synopsis. I must be a really nice guy. Now, please take your meds, you crazy person.

          • Jacob Groves

            DO YOUR RESEARCH FOR SAKE!!! YOU ARE CRAP HERE!!!

          • Vigilante_blade

            I did. I provided said research. you have refused to look at it.

          • Nowhere Man

            He gave you directions. Some things you can do yourself to save everyone the time.

          • Vigilante_blade

            Look, if he’s going to claim he has “proof”, he needs to show it. I’ll be honest here, he’s not the first one to tell me to go look a tthis video sinc ethe game was out. I’ve watched it at least five times in full. I haven’t seen any actual statement that says that you can completely turn motions off. SO now, I ask him to support his words. Tell me where they said that, and I will gladly peruse that part of the video. I am however, not wasting time trusting lunatics who call me names and type angry messages in all caps. I’d sooner trust an aligator with my head. I have limited time, and if they make a claim, THEY must back it up.

          • Nowhere Man

            But he gave you directions to find the proof. At least ATTEMPT it. If you can’t find it, let it go and move on. If you do, great job! You didn’t have to respond 50 more times to do so!

          • Vigilante_blade

            Sure, I’ll watch it if he points me to it. It’s “his” claim to evidence after all.

          • Eagle367

            I’ve learnt not to mention any motion controls to you since that is your weak point but how you’ve been?

          • dzzy

            Are you sure you are sane? You ask for evidence, people post evidence and you come back with claims that evidence is not evidence, to back up your already proven wrong false assumption.

          • Vigilante_blade

            If the evidence is not conclusive, then we may as well just not call it evidence at all. I’ve already provided evidence.

          • stop replying to this guy, he’s not even a real vigilante

          • Vigilante_blade

            I am Batman.

          • zelgadis greywords

            from your source

            “Nintendo seems to be pushing the use of the Joy-Con controllers in their separated, Wii-like configuration as the ideal way to play. I tried out both the Joy-Con controls and the more traditional Pro Controller — and I honestly can’t believe I’m saying this — but the motion-augmented controls really felt like the way to go. The wrist-flicking motion to throw Cappy becomes second nature after a few minutes, and it felt more natural than doing the same thing through a button press.”

            so either you reading capaciticy is not so good or you are blind and only what you want to see

          • PanurgeJr

            He did prove it to you, by giving you his source. If you expect him to find the video, edit the portion where it is discussed, and post it here for you to view, then your standards of proof are ridiculous, your concerns are best ignored, and everyone else can continue to have a meaningful discussion.

          • Vigilante_blade

            I watched his “source” in its entirety, and nowher ei it did it support his statement. You can’t just throw sources and not give me the statement.

            Here is an actual source of mine from The Verge:

            “”You also can’t avoid motion controls: some things are reliant on them, even if you’re using a more traditional control scheme. This is particularly true when it comes to captured enemies, most of which almost always have additional abilities that are tied to a flick of the controller. Possessing a Cheep-Cheep will let you swim around without worrying about air, but your only defense is a motion-activated attack that requires shaking the controller. If Mario captures a Lava Bubble or a frog, he’ll be able to jump higher if you shake the controller while jumping, actions that just work more naturally with the undocked Joy-Con than it does a stationary gamepad.””

          • PanurgeJr

            You haven’t proven your source said that. Nor that his source said nothing.

          • Vigilante_blade
          • PanurgeJr

            And your proof Treehouse said nothing?

          • Vigilante_blade

            Dude, you didn’ teven read the link I provided. Yous tarted typing right away. You hav eno interest in the truth.

            And he made the wild claim that theys tated that it was fully optional, it is on him to prove it. I have already watched it in full before and there is “nothing”. I can’t link you to a specific point in the video, since to know if there is an absence of information, you’d have to listen to all of it. It is far simpler to prove that it was said however, and I don’t see any quotes. If you are so confident that what he said was true, then do abck him up and try and find the statement.

          • PanurgeJr

            Of course I didn’t read it; it wasn’t pertinent to my point, which is that you haven’t been able to supply the same level of proof you’re demanding. You say you watched Treehouse and they said nothing; someone else says they did. Why should I believe you, especially since remembering one moment is more believable than remembering them all?

          • Vigilante_blade

            It was extremely pertinent to the discussion. You simply refuse to actually consider my evidence. You are being closed-minded.

            KnightWonder has made a bold statement, and when asked to support his argument, he failed to do so. It is possible for him to prove his point if he finds the argument and posts it. However, provig the absence of information means I must have you watch four hours of footage. If you are willing to, be my guest.

          • PanurgeJr

            You are the closed-minded one, refusing to accept anyone else’s claims. I’m quite open to KnightWonder.

          • Vigilante_blade

            Then why do you refuse to read what I sent you? And why does KnightWonder fail to give me sources?

          • PanurgeJr

            KNIGHTWONDER HAS GIVEN HIS SOURCE. TREEHOUSE. WHAT DON’T YOU UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT?

          • Vigilante_blade

            I don,t remember his “source” actually saying that. If he can point me to where they do say that, sure, I’ll beleive him.

          • PanurgeJr

            Really? Your evidence is “I don’t remember”? How is that, in any rational system, more believable than “I remember”?

          • Vigilante_blade

            I actually do remember them saying nothing about it. You are literally basing you entire judgement on KnightWonder’s words, not actually providing any evidence whatsoever.

          • PanurgeJr

            One person claims to remember a moment; another claims to remember three days of broadcasts. Which would you believe?

          • Vigilante_blade

            What I do remember is actually looking up the information because I reaaaaaally wanted to know. All I found is that throwing the hat with motions was optional. However, this doe snot prove that all motions are optional

          • Nowhere Man

            We want proof that Treehouse didn’t say it. Where’s your proof? You can’t make a definitive statement without giving us proof! How do we know they didn’t say it?

          • Vigilante_blade

            Go watch the entire thing, then. Knightwonder asked me to do the same to find his “evidence”. H emade the claim, then he must man up and support it. I’ll even accept you doing it in his place. I’ll just say…. between all of you and myself, I have provided more evidence than you already.

            Furthermore, it is FAR easier to prove that a statement as been made than to prove that one hasn’t been made. The only way to prove that the statement wa snot made is by making you watch the entire thing. Alternatively, if you are this certain that it was made, you could link us all to the specific part. But you won’t, because it’s not there.

          • Nowhere Man

            I’m not trying to provide evidence on anything :). Just trying to show you how absurd this whole thing is. Obviously, you did not get that.

          • Vigilante_blade

            Oh, I do think the situation is absurd. For making an inconsequential statement, I got called a psychopath, a disgusting, horrible person, yelled a tin all caps… I work in a foster home for children with various issues, and even they don’t go as crazy as this comments section at times.

          • Nowhere Man

            I don’t think you’re a psychopath or a disgusting, horrible person at all! I do, however, think you need to learn to let certain things go. You very well may be right (and I agree that proof should be provided with factual statements), but there’s only so much you can push back on before it just becomes a nuisance. If it becomes clear they won’t provide the link, let it go. You work in a foster home, you should have greater perspective in life. This is petty and insignificant; you gain nothing from winning this argument. That’s all I’m trying to say.

          • Vigilante_blade

            I actually was referring to what Evee said, but she seems to be a little on the emotional side. Understand that I don’t like motion inputs, and I really love video games. i will continue to criticize them, even if some people can’t tolerate the idea of even “seeing” anything negative leveraged at Nintendo.

            I understand where you are coming from. They are clearly beyond reasoning. They refused to read any evidence I provided them with, and they refused to back up their statements. However, this is my day off, and I’m quite bored, so I am humouring them. So far, I’ve been copy pasting statements I’ve made and slightly touching them up. I will stop soon anyways because I have to go to the movies.

            Still. I think this community should at the very least try and clean itself up. This is a very sad state of affairs. We need some degree of moderation.

          • Eagle367

            “. For one thing, it’s quite a lot more than aiming. You flick your wrists to toss Mario’s hat. You shake them to climb up things faster, and so on and so forth. It’s core to much of what Mario does, though traditional controls still govern his movement, jumping and so forth.

            On the other hand, you can still do all of this on a Pro Controller without the motion controls, or in handheld mode with the Joy-Cons attached, so there’s options.”
            https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2017/06/16/hands-on-with-super-mario-odyssey-on-the-nintendo-switch/amp/
            There you go buddy.

          • Vigilante_blade

            Again, he made the statement, he must find proof. And how am I supposed to prove “absence of informaiton” without having you watch the entire thing? If you’re going to claim that Nintendo said that, find the statement. You made the claim, you defend it.

          • PanurgeJr

            When you defend any of your claims I will. Until then you don’t get to assert that you and you alone are correct in the absence of proof to the contrary.

          • Vigilante_blade

            Again, the only way I can prove it to you is by having you watch the entirety of the stream. You are unwilling to. You also refuse to read my article, which lends credence to my point. I give you evidence and you refuse to look at it.

          • PanurgeJr

            And your evidence that your claims don’t require evidence?

          • Vigilante_blade

            I have actually provided evidence that there are some doubts to be had:

            https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/20/16336134/super-mario-odyssey-nintendo-switch-motion-controls-hands-on-complex-impressions

            Also, all we have right now is KnightWonder’s word. A single person’s bold claim is not evidence enough. I haven’t seen a single statement in Treehouse that supports his claims.

          • PanurgeJr

            It is hardly a bold claim that someone who comments on a Nintendo fan site watched the E3 Treehouse stream.

          • Vigilante_blade

            And yet I watched it as well. Why would his testimony be listened to over mine? He had the chance to support his argument and failed to do so.

          • PanurgeJr

            You miss the point. A priori, neither one of you is more believable than the other. But your “testimony” requires more assumptions. One of which is “I’m right they’re wrong”.

          • Vigilante_blade

            Hey, man, I gave you evidence, you refuse to even look at it. You are literally a waste of my time.

          • PanurgeJr

            You gave me no evidence that someone else’s recollection of events was flawed, while yours wasn’t. But, you know, whtevs

          • Vigilante_blade

            Yeah, I won’t respond to you anymore. You hav eno interes tin having an actual discussion.

          • Just wait for reviews.
            After reading all this, i gladly thank Jesus for not knowing someone like you in real life.

          • Vigilante_blade

            Well, that was not very nice, was it?

          • I’m not nice, i’m not politically correct.
            I only say what i see and i what i feel.
            It’s called “truth”.

          • Vigilante_blade

            Can’t please everyone. I will still wish you a good day, however.

          • Same to you, have a nice day.

          • Indielink

            I think you are all ridiculous getting so heated over this. That being said, I just read a preview article from Forbes. Quick summary, motion controls are used quite frequently but are all highly accurate but the Pro Controller does not use motion if you are not a fan of it.

            https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2017/06/16/hands-on-with-super-mario-odyssey-on-the-nintendo-switch/amp/

          • Vigilante_blade

            Your article even calls it motion controls Mario. Plus, it is far older than the ones I linked.

          • Indielink

            I am well aware of that statement. I am also pointing out that non motion Pro Controller play is mentioned.

          • Vigilante_blade

            This? “On the other hand, you can still do all of this on a Pro Controller without the motion controls”

            It does add some weight to it, sure. THough it is a June article and other articles say opposing things. It’s still quite unclear today.

          • PanurgeJr

            Let me guess–your definition of “discussion” is any exchange which ends in the other person admitting that you were right.

          • Vigilante_blade

            A discussion is an exchange of ideas. The end result matters little. I understand that the definition above is your own, yes.

          • Evan Gustavson

            You’re insane. Until one side offers proof, they’re both hearsay.
            The article Vigilante posted specifically states that some things require motion controls.
            That gives him more of a leg to stand on.
            Also, it’s perfectly fair to assume that on’s own recollection is more accurate than a stranger’s.
            Why should he believe a stranger when all that stranger says is: it’s somewhere in his hourlong presentation, I don’t remember where,

          • They also told him it was referenced in the reddit multiple times though, and the people on reddit can pull their info together just as reliably as any other gaming site. (Trust, I give up on some game sites for how unreliable they are.)

            He also told which specific part of the video it is, so he can easily just Google some of those keywords, or scroll through the timeline on the video to find it. He’s either being lazy, or not willing to find out that he’s wrong. Which, the latter is kind of becoming his shtick.

          • PanurgeJr

            First of all, I’m not insane; I was drinking and having a good time. A fantastic time, in fact.

            Second of all, what is the obsession this thread has with proof? This isn’t a court of law, it’s a comment thread on a Nintendo fan site; it is perfectly reasonable for someone to basically say “I watched Treehouse and they mentioned it then”, and equally unreasonable to demand that further proof accompany any such statement. Of course that statement may be wrong, but that’s okay–it’s a comment thread on a Nintendo fan site, it will be corrected in due time, and it isn’t a big deal.

          • Fredy Rodriguez Ortega

            and what about portable gaming? they can not use motion control

          • Vigilante_blade

            That did not stop breath of wild. And motions still work in portable mode.

          • Fredy Rodriguez Ortega

            aiming is easy done slowly moving the console around but flickering the console where the screen is sound stupid to me. It is almost there just wait to release date and don’t get too crazy about it.

          • William Kinkaid

            Here’s an idea … Don’t buy the game. Then you won’t have to worry that the ultimate lie was pulled on you.

          • Vigilante_blade

            I won’t, don’t worry. Not at launch. I’ll see after.

          • rui lemos

            Hey douchebag I played that game yesterday I can throw Cappy speed bullet or whatever with buttons or motion it’s just two ways same function now stop whining

          • Vigilante_blade

            What evidence can you show me that you actually did that?

          • DarkVader

            I played the demo more than once, Mario has never felt this good (despite always having tightest control of any game character), actually the motion controls of cappy’s direction and inclination is spot on, it adds to the overall tactile feel of the controls, you can turn them off or play using joycon grips (my 2nd demo play through used 2 joycons with a grip tethered to the demo unit) or pro controller, I found the separate joycons + motion control to be superior personally.

          • Vigilante_blade

            You know, it’s finew that you like it, but even if you do, I dislike motions to the very core. Your experience and mine will be very different.

          • DarkVader

            You didn’t catch the part where I said I played a second time with the grip and it wasn’t possible to aim cappy with motion…then again I went down in the comment thread and boy, do you need help! it’s either you’re extremely brainwashed by the “motion control is not cool” bandwagon or you have nothing better to do than keep replying with the same argument, either ways, ease up dude!

          • Vigilante_blade

            Did you not consider that is isn’t a bandwagon and I just genuinely dislike motion inputs?

          • Paddy Alfan

            That’s what I said to my missus after our first honeymoon.

        • Nowhere Man

          And always good.

          • Vigilante_blade

            Depends, Super Mario Galaxy had attrocious controls IMO, and I thought the camera in 3D World could have been improved.

          • hi v3.0

            The majority disagrees

          • Vigilante_blade

            If you are talking on Nintendo Everything…. sure. If you are talking about gamers in general, then you would be wrong, I believe.

          • hi v3.0

            Yes I’m talking about gamers in general, many have said Mario Galaxy has some of the best use of the limited motion control system

          • Vigilante_blade

            As far as I’ve seen, people believe that the spin is dumb and should be relegated to button inputs, the ball minigame is very annoying, and the pointer is pretty pointlesss. But I also hang around in places that don’t only focus on Nintendo though.

          • Chris Parlamas

            You can play motion free entirely. I played the demo unit at Target with the joy con grip. There is a button to throw cappy and do all the things “shaking” does. I don’t need to give proof or a source because I literally just played it yesterday and have nothing to gain from lying. Stop being crazy.

          • Vigilante_blade

            Have you posessed a cheep cheep?

          • Chris Parlamas

            What exactly does that have to do with anything? The demo had no cheep cheeps

          • Vigilante_blade

            Images have been posted showing attacks with the pro controller being motion based (shake controller). Giant Bomb has also stated that it seems motion only. The Verge also seems to support that. I am just saying, your limited time with the demo is indeed valuable information, but not representative of the whole game. I do appreciate you telling me of your experience of course.

          • Chris Parlamas

            I would imagine the Y button would be used for the cheep cheep. The Y button was used in place of shaking controller to accelerate the bullet bill. The motion controls were turned off on the demo, I believe.

          • Chris Parlamas

            Never mind Y button is to dive. Idk maybe very few things do require motion? So what? It’s not much of a bother.

          • Vigilante_blade

            To me, any amount of motion is a dealbreaker. I just really dislike them.

    • awng782

      I have read a lot of your comments throughout this site, and I refuse to believe one can be annoyed by motion controls that much.

      • Vigilante_blade

        Considering that people all have different tastes, I don’t see how this is surprising to you.

        • awng782

          You seem unusually scared of the possibility that the game will have “shake your wrist” motion controls.

          • Vigilante_blade

            A game in Canada is over 100$ with tax. I don’t earn much money. If there is a chance that a game will not be fun for me, then buying it is a huge mistake that will ensure that I hav enothing to pla for a little while I value my time, my money and my entertainement.

          • awesomeparadise3

            AAA games in Canada are 80$ with the highest possible tax rate being 15% (GST & PST combined). The highest possible price would be 92$. That’s a flat out lie.

          • Vigilante_blade

            You did not count Quebec’s provincial tax… I am no liar, kid.

          • awesomeparadise3
          • Vigilante_blade

            Went to Amazon, tried an order of Super Mario Odyssey. 96$. Heh, sure, I was wrong, confused it with the pro controller pricing, but still pretty expensive. Besides, this us not the main point. I won’t spend 96$ for a game with something I do not like.

          • awesomeparadise3

            What I want to know is how you forgot Quebec’s sales tax? Especially if money is such an issue for you.

          • Vigilante_blade

            Before you responded. I had forgotten to add that I confused the price with the pro controller. Yeah, I was wrong. I am more than willing to admit that.

          • awng782

            Mario Odyssey will be a fun game whether you use shake your wrist or not.

          • Vigilante_blade

            Fun is subjective.

          • awng782

            You are free to let your overwhelming concern over motion controls ruin your fun.

            Me?? I’ll be picking this game up and enjoying every bit of it like everyone else.

          • man it’s probably best if we all block this guy, he’s a super boring troll

    • Pokémon Sun and Moon

      Here’s the Proof Pro Controler require Motion Controls. If you don’t want to buy the game because of this dont buy
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ae905748aeec808d070b3f1fae2e5a793242fae96bb8f43f733898052ae4c548.png

  • Dunkare

    So, is it possible to play this with the Pro controller or will I be forced to swing those tiny Cons?

    • KnightWonder

      All controllers are supported.

    • Vigilante_blade

      It’s unclear. Some say you are forced to use motions, even with the pro controller. Some say no. We’ll have to wait.

      • KnightWonder

        I highly doubt you’ll use motions with the pro-controller.

        • Vigilante_blade

          Yet it has a gyro. It is a possibility we have to steel ourselves for.

          • KnightWonder

            Gyro is used for aiming, not for flicking.

          • Vigilante_blade

            All motion is problematic to use.

          • KnightWonder

            I disagree.

          • Vigilante_blade

            Fine by me, but forcing it will only divide fans.

          • KnightWonder

            They’re giving you controller options.

          • Vigilante_blade

            Again, prove it.

          • DoragonBōruSūpā89

            Omg…It isn’t on him/her or anyone else in this discussion to prove it to you. Go watch the E3 treehouse demos and multiple other showings of the game where Nintendo reps have stated that motion controls can be turned off. People nowadays are so damn needy & proudly unintelligent it’s pathetic. OBVIOUSLY IN A CONSOLE THAT PLAYS ALL GAMES IN A HANDHELD MODE YOU CAN PLAY SUPER MARIO WITHOUT HAVING TO SWING YOUR DAMN CONSOLE AROUND WITH THE JOYCONS CONNECTED TO THE DAMN SCREEN. Use some common sense for globs sake.

          • Vigilante_blade

            Calm down, buddy. I HAVE done this research and found no actual “official” confirmation. All they said is that you can throw the hat with Y. Remember that Nintenod once stated that you could play the Wii U version of BotW with the Pro controller, but failed to tell us that motion puzzles would be in, requiring the Gamepad. Nintendo likes to play with words to not necessarily “lie”, but to hide information.

            Again, if you can’t back up your statements, do not make them.

          • DoragonBōruSūpā89

            They aren’t hiding anything. They straight up said that motion controls weren’t necessary. You can throw cappy with Y and use some button or combination of button presses and joystick direction to use every action in the game without motion controls.

            “— like sending Cappy spinning around Mario in a circle, or throwing the hat up or to the side — are awkward to implement using stationary controls. So while launching that spin throw with the detached Joy-Con is as simple as flicking your controllers to the side, doing the same thing with docked gamepads or the Pro Controller requires rapidly spinning Mario in a circle and then launching Cappy with a button press.” – TheVerge

            There…next time Google it ffs

          • Vigilante_blade

            Hat controls, sure, but I read other outlets claiming that you can’ tdo basic things without them.

            “You also can’t avoid motion controls: some things are reliant on them, even if you’re using a more traditional control scheme. This is particularly true when it comes to captured enemies, most of which almost always have additional abilities that are tied to a flick of the controller. Possessing a Cheep-Cheep will let you swim around without worrying about air, but your only defense is a motion-activated attack that requires shaking the controller. If Mario captures a Lava Bubble or a frog, he’ll be able to jump higher if you shake the controller while jumping, actions that just work more naturally with the undocked Joy-Con than it does a stationary gamepad.”

            https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/20/16336134/super-mario-odyssey-nintendo-switch-motion-controls-hands-on-complex-impressions

            Conflicting evidence, buddy.

          • SpectralDynamite

            Yeah, because clearly it’s their job to tell you the contents of every puzzle in the game and how to solve them. That’s not info that’s owed to you. You find it out yourself.

            Wouldn’t it make sense that if you can throw Cappy with Y, the other functions that can be done by shaking can also be done the same way? Sometimes you gotta use deductive reason to figure stuff out. You’re not owed all the answers

          • Vigilante_blade

            It would make sense, but Nintendo has often “not made sense”. Again, I’m not even saying that this isn’t a possibility, but people need to stop acting like they know what they are talking about when they clearly have ZERO evidence.

          • awesomeparadise3

            Ah yeah, Zelda had a tiny amount of forced motion controls. Literally unplayable.

          • awng782

            I don’t think any “fan” will complain about “flick your wrist” motion controls. You are the exception, not the rule.

    • SpectralDynamite

      You can do both. Remember that this has to work in handheld mode, too.

    • DoragonBōruSūpā89

      Don’t listen to Vigilante_blade is isn’t “unclear”. Nintendo (also GameXplain, Switch Force, etc…) have stated that motion controls can be turned off. At least for portable play I’m not sure about in general but the consensus is that people playing with pro controller have played with little to no motion controls. And of course there are no motion controls playing handheld with the joy con attached…it’s unpractical+unsafe for the console (i.e dropping, hitting stuff…)

      • Vigilante_blade

        Don’t listen to Doragon. While it is perfectly possible that they are optional, Nintendo has never once stated that they are completely optional.

        • Greenekitten

          They have though. Since their very first showing at E3.

          • Vigilante_blade

            They haven’t. All they have said is that you can thow cappy without motion controls, not that you can completely turn them off.

        • Kun Adr

          If motion control is a requirement, how is it gonna play in handheld mode? We have to buy another controller?

          Smh.

  • Morian

    Interesting. But I find user reviews more useful, specially the negative ones. I want to know any flaws in every game.

    • SpectralDynamite

      I don’t see why you’d want to seek out the negatives over the positives. Why search for reasons to deter you from getting something?

      • Vigilante_blade

        Because people who can see the negatives are just better reviewers.

        • SpectralDynamite

          Actively seeking for a reason to not want something just sound counterintuitive. It basically means you were never interested in it to begin with. If I’m looking forward to something, I want to know what IS there and what I CAN do, not the opposite. I can see what it is I don’t like for myself once I have the thing and act accordingly. If someone lets me know beforehand it’s whatever, but specifically searching for bad reviews is beyond stupid.

          • Vigilante_blade

            Reviewers are supposed to look for both the positives and negatives. You need to hear the negative elements of a game. Only a poor consummer would wish to only consumer positive reviews.

          • Endeavor

            Motion controls aren’t required you can play th e game without them but there will some stuff and abilities that you can’t use without them for example the high jump for the frog etc……

          • Vigilante_blade

            Keep in mind, unless i have full, conclusive evidence, I will keep my preorder cancelled. And there is no actual evidence that you don’t need it. Plus, limiting a high jump to a motion input would be horrible design.

          • zelgadis greywords

            the same can be said in the opposited. Have you find any evidence that motion controls are mandatory?

          • Vigilante_blade

            If ANY of you actually bothered to read what I posted here multiple times, then yes, I have some evidence: https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/20/16336134/super-mario-odyssey-nintendo-switch-motion-controls-hands-on-complex-impressions

            Besides, it was KnightWonder who made the claim. He must prove it. Zelgadis, if someone makes a statement that is absolute, then that person must prove his point. I could tell you that I have “evidence” that Luigi is playable (not true, just an example). If you didn’t believe me, then I could tell you “It’s in day 2 of treehouse live!”. Would you actually bother watching the entire day 2 event? Clearly, no. If I made a claim like that, I would go look it up, and grant you the link.

            Besides, I’ll do the same as Knightwonder. I have seen no evidence that motion controls are fully optional in the video. Go watch day one of Treehouse live in full. If youw atch all of it, you will see the evidence.

          • zelgadis greywords

            first: knightwonder have provided you with the source of his acliams, is your turn to check if its true or false, bad luck it is in a quite lengty video ( and by the way, not so long because you can jump to other parts easily and check in witch one is the mario part) and second, in the test you have provided not only it doesnt contain anything about the motion control to full COMPLETELLY MANDATORY, but instead contain parts that tell that you can play with the control system you want ( And no, the defense that you activate with motion sensor is not MANDATORY) ( that it was what i asked to you)

          • Vigilante_blade

            Again, it is his claim, it is his responsibility to find it. I have a life.

          • zelgadis greywords

            nope, he provided the source and the material, is your resposibility to check if its true or false, even if its a pain doing it

          • Vigilante_blade

            Keep in mind, I “have” checked it and found nothing. So how are you going to prove it to me now?

          • zelgadis greywords

            and again, you made your claim and posted the link, no more, no less, exactly the same as him ( him a 6 hour video, you a 5 minutes long text). we also have a life

          • Vigilante_blade

            6 hours to five minutes… I think mine was far more reasonable to ask of you. Plus, I posted the quotes repeatedly.

          • Mark

            You know, just to be safe, you had better go sell your Switch on Ebay, just so you don’t run the risk of purchasing any other critically acclaimed perfect-scoring games that include motion controls. Go buy an XBox One or a PS4 (wait, no, sixaxis) or a 3DS (wait, no, touchscreen requires motion) or something. Better steer clear of VR completely, too. If you’ve got a tablet or smartphone at home, better chuck it in the trash, because they also have gyro sensors on them. If it’s important enough to post almost fifty times in two hours, dismissing everyone who offers any sort of advice or evidence, and acting like a whiny child and insulting almost everyone who responds to you, then it’s way too important to risk actually ever purchasing it.

            Here’s a hint: there hasn’t been a sandbox Mario 3D game -without- motion controls in fifteen years. Mario’s fans AREN’T clamoring for a game devoid of motion controls. There’s no split between fangroups. There’s just most people, who are OK with it if done well, and people who are ready to fight to the death if anything that approaches ‘waggle’ appears on their game and will call a game complete garbage if it forces them to actually move a controller in three dimensional space. Guess which one you are.

            This is absolutely disgusting. I really, really hope you’re ten years old. Because there’s an excuse for this behavior if you’re a ten year old who’s maybe being bullied by other kids for still liking Nintendo, and needs to defend that his Mario game doesn’t have “baby motion controls.” But if you’re an adult, then these hours-long tirades on a fan forum is just childish in the extreme.

            Either way, grow up.

          • Vigilante_blade

            Why does everything have to be so extreme with you guys?

          • hi v3.0

            “All motion is problematic to use.”
            Your extreme anti-motion control attitude has been pissing people off for a long time and you know it.

          • Vigilante_blade

            THing is, it shouldn’t piss people off. I don’t like ’em. Accept it and move on. People should stop forcing their opinions down my throat like they often try to do here. I am more than willing to hear them out, but they must also accept that I may disagree with them. That is what being an adult is.

          • Mark

            Huh. Being an adult is accepting that other people think differently than you, and moving on.

            Do you see the irony here? At all?

            … no?

            … will you see the irony in another twenty or thirty responses?

          • Vigilante_blade

            I do accept that people think differently from me. I’ve always done that. If you read above, I’m not actually mocking people on their taste towards motion controls. I am merely speaking of my personal preference, while being called various names.

          • Mark

            Wow, you’re still not getting it. At all. And I’ve read all of your comments. Without specifically insulting anyone, you’ve been stuck-up, dismissive, obsessive, extremely demanding, petty, and childish. You’ve been demanding everyone prove all of their comments and refusing to listen to anyone who doesn’t provide some sort of notated reference. You’ve also held up an article from The Verge as your evidence for why the game has complete motion controls and is crap, even though the entire focus of the post was how wonderful and intuitive the controls were of Mario Odyssey and that the author had to reevaluate how he felt about motion controls.

            Not to mention that the person who wrote the article for The Verge had only been able to play a 90-minute controlled demo. A demo is never the final version of the product, and often is set up so that the person plays what the publisher views is the best way to play. Hence why they weren’t able to play off-TV at all. Often, demos won’t allow you to access menus or settings, and have those features turned off. Unless Nintendo says specifically that you can turn off motion controls, or we hear in a review from the final product that you can turn them off, or it’s out and people who have played it tell you that you can turn it off, then you don’t know for sure.

            Well, except that someone in this thread already said he played it and that you didn’t need motion control. Rui Lemos played it, and we know that Mario Odyssey’s actually in Best Buys now to play. But you still stupidly demanded some sort of proof from him, as if he played it with a video camera in order to specifically prove you wrong. The argument could have been done there and then, but you kept going like the child that you are.

            If you cannot see how completely childish, immature, and petty you’re being, and how you’ve completely taken over the comment section about Mario Odyssey’s review into being a narcissistic debate about how you hate motion controls and that the game is not worth purchasing if it’s included in it, then there’s absolutely no hope at all in you ever listening. Which makes you the worst sort of troll: the person who pretends that he’s just here to debate, but is really just trying to passive-aggressively insult everyone.

            You are not worth any more typing on my behalf.

          • Vigilante_blade

            I’m not going to be all enthusiastic and nice when speaking to people who are very hostile towards me. I’ll give them basis human respect. That is all.

            I have also read that article, and I,ve seen this song and dance many times… Nintendo releases a game with motion controls. People claim it is incredible and finally works. Then alter on, when they had more time with it, they realize that it was just the novelty effect. I’ve tried Skyward Sword. I’ve tried Mario Galaxy. I’ve not had any fun. And even IF they did work, I don’ tlike th econcept of using motion controls. It takes me out of my immersion. So no, don’t try and force me to like them, please. It won’t happen. I’ve accepted control sticks, I’ve accepted rumble, shoulder buttons, triggers, analogue triggers, etc… I am open to new experiences. I. just. don’t. find. it .fun. Is this clear enough?

            “Unless Nintendo says specifically that you can turn off motion controls, or we hear in a review from the final product that you can turn them off, or it’s out and people who have played it tell you that you can turn it off, then you don’t know for sure.”

            Yes, that was my point… Hence why I asked for evidence when KnightWonder claimed that they were fully optional.

            “Well, except that someone in this thread already said he played it and that you didn’t need motion control. Rui Lemos played it, and we know that Mario Odyssey’s actually in Best Buys now to play.”

            I have no evidence that he actually played it. Justr saying you did something is not proof. What if I told you that I went to the moon and discovered turquoise aliens with elephant trunks? Would you believe me at my word? I won’t bank the purchase of a game on a guy who called me a douchebag and could hav epotentially made this up on the spot.

            Again, buddy, ther eis no need for ad hominems here. If naything, isn’t it immature to call someone petty, childish and immature? Aren’t you being hypocritical here?

            What have contributed here? You’ve provided nothing. You’ve slung insults at me, and called it a day. Debating is quite easy. Find evidence. Support it. Please, don’t waste my time with ad hominems. I will gladly welcome counter arguments, so long as they hold up. If you want me to change my mind, give me something I can’t counter. I actually WANT to be proven wrong here.

          • Varen

            I have never met you, but holy crap after reading your comments do I hate you SO bloody much. You can’t be like this in real life. There’s no way a human being can be this pretentious, arrogant, snobbish, childish and completely devoid of how to properly interact with someone. No wonder everybody and their mother is ragging on you in here. You’re coming across as some elitist jerk who is so stuck in their opinion that they refuse to acknowledge other people’s opinions and treats them the individual like utter garbage. The fact that you’re Canadian disgusts me beyond belief. Although you are from Quebec and the people in that province do tend to act as though they’re above others I’ve noticed. If you acted this way to someone outside the internet, people would have zero tolerance for the way you’re acting and would treat you much harsher.

            The fact that you’re also an adult astounds me. I’ve never, EVER meet an adult that has treated others as you have with such disrespect. I find it very difficult to believe you’re not a troll of some sort. This is an elistest attitude that goes above Melee players.

            I am truly sickened by what I’ve read from you today. Nobody got through to your thick skull and

          • Mark

            First – I’m not debating you. I’m telling you that your behavior is what I would expect of a six year old. I don’t care whether there’s motion controls on Mario or not, and I don’t care to prove it one way or another. I’m telling you that what you’re doing is toxic behavior and needs to stop.

            Second, I’m not insulting you. Insulting you would be calling you names, or giving you some sort of unearned slander or libel. Rather, I’m pointing out specific character qualities that you’ve demonstrated over the past 24 hours.

            As far as I can tell, no one here is trying to ‘debate’. Whether Mario Odyssey requires the player to use motion controls or not is not a debatable topic. It’s something which is either true or false, ultimately provable only by empirical evidence, which does not exist yet. It’s technically not even provable by a statement from Nintendo, because such things can change over time.
            Everyone here is just trying to show you exactly to the extent that one does or does not need to use motion controls with what we know so far.

            And you’ve insinuated that they’re all liars. Every single person who ever says something that you don’t like, you’ve demanded that they back up everything that they say with evidence. Even the people who have played the games as part of a demo station in a Best Buy or Target. You’ve told them that their word isn’t good enough, and that they need to prove it or else it doesn’t pass your high level of analysis. This is a crazy level of exactness, especially coming from a person who admittedly didn’t like the last two sandbox Mario games. And in all honesty, it looks far more like you just don’t want to be proven wrong and instead are essentially claiming that the only evidence that can prove you incorrect is evidence which -cannot- exist yet, as the game is not out.

            And worst of all, you legitimately don’t think that you’ve done anything wrong. You think that you’re being a nice and kind person who’s treating other people with basic humanity. To be honest, I agree with the ‘psycopath’ statement – not as an insult, but as a person who’s studied psychosis. This is why I called you a narcissist – not as some sort of throwaway insult, but as a description of someone whose actions are completely crazy, yet completely convinced of your own normalcy. Why else devote your entire day to battling people online about something as stupid as motion controls?

            How many other 200+ comment news posts do you see on this site, where one person is responsible for almost half of the comments, arguing against everyone?

            Do you legitimately not see what is unhinged with this behavior?

            The ‘block’ option was created for people like you. I’ll be glad to not need to read crap like this again.

          • Vigilante_blade

            All I have done this entire time is ask for evidence over a bold claim that was made. One that no one has yet to be pointed out. If anything, the general behaviour of this comments thread is toxic, but I stand here as the victim of irrationally angry fanatics while I am simply choosing not to believe KnightWonder at his word alone.

            Look. I value my time and money. And I have informed myself thoroughly on whether motion controls were forced or not. That is a prime concern for me. I have watched the entire video and have found no evidence whatsoever that KnightWonder was saying the truth, despite his refusal to back his own statement. I have done my part and did the research. And call me cynical if you want, I do not trust the words of people I barely even know. I operate on evidence. Fans have lied to me on the topic of Breath of the Wild. I am not making that mistake again. Every single person that went to best buy played a demo unit. It doesn’t represent the full game. While I appreciate their input, it can only go so far.

            And yes, I do believe that I am quite nice, but even I have a limit to my tolerance. I would also like for you to apologize. Calling somone a psychopath is a grave accusation. I assure you, I take no pleasure in the pain of others. And unlike these people, I have remained civil. This is essentially.mob behaviour, and you are enabling it. I don’t think you would do it intentionally, but to see people filled with so much hate at my very reasonable behaviour, I can only see fanatics trying to forced their views on others. As for me keeping up this charade… I have no tolerance for bullying. I am not giving an inch.

          • hi v3.0

            It’s more like you shoving everyone’s throat that you very hate motion controls, if it wasn’t because of you keep complaining about motion controls people wouldn’t be so negative towards you.

          • Vigilante_blade

            I’m pretty sure there is nothing wrong with saying “I don’t like this”. Unlike the “opposition” for lack fo a better term, however, I don’t actually berate them for their position. I challenge it, but I don’t call them psychopaths and disgusting human beings for it…

            Look, I will keep complaining about motion controls whether you want it or not, at least until Nintendo spends an entire generation providing options. Then, I might cool off on it. I love video games, and I’d like to continue loving them. Catch my drift? Look, I know I pissed a lot of people in your discord chat by leaving, but I’d hope you guys (not necessarily including you) can at the very least calm down, and speak like gentlemen.

            I hate motion controls, but I don’t necessarily hate the people who use them. Hate the problem, not the people.

          • SpectralDynamite

            Wow. I poke fun at people who cancel over there not being Japanese audio or a slider to make your boobs bigger or smaller, but you’re the kind of person who’s afraid to move his wrists barely even an inch while playing a game and willing to deprive himself of an overall great experience because of this honestly stupid principle. Trust me, YOU’LL be among the very few missing out.

            And considering your ridiculously staunch stance, you probably didn’t play either Galaxy game or wanted to off yourself if you did, in which case, I feel sorry for you THREE times over.

          • Vigilante_blade

            “Afraid” is a gross exageration. I just don’t like it.

            I actually played the Galaxy games and did not enjoy them, personally. I tried to give it a shot, but it wasn’t for me.

          • awesomeparadise3

            Consumers only need to listen to a variety of reviews. If they’re all from different places and they all happen to be good then that’s one of the best possible signs that whatever you’re looking at is of good quality. Actively looking for a specific view is inherently going to bias you. Besides, it’s not like there ever was or ever will be a game that’s literally perfect.

    • GoddyPango

      >commenter as loli as their avatar
      >the ‘people’ who up voted the comment have anime as their avatar too

      Why am I not surprised?

      • Vigilante_blade

        Are you actually going to make fun of those who like Japanese art? Are you a 90’s schoolyard bully?

        • GoddyPango

          No. Weebs tend to be very narcissistic and have an elitist attitude. And they don’t shower.

          • Vigilante_blade

            Ah, troll account.

          • GoddyPango

            >calls me a troll

            I won the argument

          • Vigilante_blade

            There was an argument?

          • GoddyPango

            I guess

          • JasonBall

            Go back to under your bridge.

          • Symbol de Au

            I don’t represent all weebs you know?

  • StrawhatEevee

    Almost as many moons as korok seeds? Dear lord… And Peach’s role post-game will be different than we expect..I wonder if that is Japanese nonsense for she’ll be playable or if it’s something truly unexpected. Not that I’d mind a playable Peach, but it’s certainly been predicted a lot, so not exactly unexpected.

    • I guess it’s wanted but not expected quite exactly. I really hope she’s playable, but I do wonder what they mean.

      • Mark

        Peach gets ‘captured’ by Bowser and is suddenly the new final boss of the super-hard-challenging stage.

        THAT would be unexpected.

        And awesome.

        • Kun Adr

          Maybe Mario will possess Peach.

        • Yooo. You have me excited for something that I know they’ll (likely) never do.

        • StrawhatEevee

          Haha I’m down! Champion’s Road with Peach final villain.

    • MajoraMan28

      The post game would involve Peach and Pauline. Their conflict would turn her character into an unexpected twist.

      Calling it right now

  • GoddyPango

    If you have an anime girl as your avatar, your opinion doesn’t count.

    • Paddy Alfan

      Poor me :{

      • GoddyPango

        Eh, it’s not that bad. You’re an exception! :}

    • Tlink7

      What about me?!

      • Busterblade

        You’re not even supposed to be seen, unless the one seeing you is gasping his last breath, and you got a nice score from it!

        • Tlink7

    • hi v3.0

      🙁

  • dataminor

    I’ve had this sucker preordered since it was an option, but this is enough to kick me into overdrive. Stoked!

  • Tlink7

    I was hoping the 100+ comments would be like ”oh I am so excited for this game :D”… Boy, was I disappointed xD

    • Locky Mavo

      You can always count on at least one guy to disappoint.

      • MagcargoMan

        “You can always count on at least that one guy to disappoint.”
        Fixed

        • Locky Mavo

          Nah, I’m not going to single any “one” person out and be labeled a “bully”. Even when no names are mentioned.
          Besides, there’s usually more than one on this site and most regulars know who the usual suspects are.

    • BrerBrett

      Jesus, me too. This vigilante guy is ridiculous

      • Mark

        Tell me about it. What a complete child.

        • Ruby

          Google is paying 97$ per hour,with weekly payouts.You can also avail this.
          On tuesday I got a brand new Land Rover Range Rover from having earned $11752 this last four weeks..with-out any doubt it’s the most-comfortable job I have ever done .. It sounds unbelievable but you wont forgive yourself if you don’t check it
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      • SpectralDynamite

        I think from now on maybe we should just downvote and leave him to be angry by himself. Save us all the trouble.

    • Indielink

      Dude I was so excited for some good conversation….

      • SpectralDynamite

        Same… it really takes the wind out of my sails, not gonna lie.

    • SpectralDynamite

      We can always rely on one of at least 3 people to come in ruin the fun.

    • @Vigilante_blade:disqus needs to be banned. Everyone block him.

      • awesomeparadise3

        I may not like him but isn’t that a bit overkill?

        • Isn’t 80 posts about his motion control fetish overkill?

          • ronin4life

            Perhaps.
            Not against the rules of the site though. Not at all ban or block worthy.

            Just scroll past if someone annoys you.

          • what rules?
            can’t scroll past 50 posts

            block him, he makes the same worthless comment every time
            never says anything else
            i’m not convinced he actually even cares about it
            probably just doing it to mess with us
            because he is a low quality troll

        • Vigilante_blade

          Unfortunate, because I don’t hate you.

          • awesomeparadise3

            Sorry. I didn’t mean to come off that harsh. I just wanted to say that even though I might get annoyed sometimes, there’s really nothing serious to get steaming mad over. Some people are overreacting.

          • Vigilante_blade

            Would you allow me one minute of being very open and honest with you? I’d like to reach out to you, outside of the context of this current discussion.

            Look, I am an opiniated person, and I’m not dumb. I know that I hold oppinions that bother a fair share of Nintendo fans. But the things is…. those are my honest beliefs. I’d much rather be honest with myself, and towards all of you than to try and fit a mold that isn’t “me”. I’d rather be hated by a portion of this community than act in a disingenuous way.

            I’m not trying to hurt people’s feelings. However, I really value people having different opinions and feeling free to voice them. I believe in being able to disagree, debating heartily, and still haivng respect for one another. JasonBall and I have had very long discussions where we were on completely different sides of the spectrum. I still think he’s a cool dude. We talked before, and we never really have any hard feelings afterwards.

            Still, I am human, and at times, when I get a lot of verbal abuse, I can get a bit ticked off. Those responses you might see from me that are a little too…. direct… often stem from having had to respond to a flood of angry comments and trying to hold back on being rude. You’ve seen it here, many people have gone too far. They took this discussion far too personal, and it lead to unfortunate things being said.

            Whether you agree with my position of not, I’m sure you can agree that what happened here is not something any reasonable comments section should ever devolve into. You seem to see that.

            I really hope that we can learn to put all of this behind us and become on more friendly terms. You are free to disagree with me, and even vehemently defend your points, but I think that the beauty of the Internet is that is is a free forum in which we can exchange ideas. The variety is what makes it interesting. While I do disagree with you at times, and will strongly defend my points, I never do so with an emotional “I hate this guy” mindset.

          • awesomeparadise3

            Yeah totally.

      • Addy

        Or you can just ignore him. And act like a grown up.

        Oh who am I kidding, someone’s going to make a change.org petition and not realize this won’t work because 99.99% of online petitions never work.

        • It’s pretty hard to ignore someone that makes 50 posts in one article

          • Addy

            There is one way to end this, by clicking the red X on the upper right of your screen.

          • click your own X, bully

      • Vigilante_blade

        For what reason?

        • for trolling every thread you can on some nonsensical issue that no one cares about
          we know you don’t care about it, either
          we know you’re just lying to get attention

          • Vigilante_blade

            Oooookay. I know I can’t reason with you, so I’ll leave you to it.

  • Sinton

    How come EDGE can publish their review now, while the rest have to wait?

    • MagcargoMan

      Money

  • Gamingfan

    So there’s a chance the joy cons have to be used in this game. Everyone that says sell the joy cons if you dont like them and buy a pro controller, you’re exposed if this is true.

  • Gamingfan

    Cant trust many reviewers these days. Watch battlefront 2 get really good reviews even though its pay to win dog poop.

    • awng782

      Battlefront 2’s review scores will pale in comparison to Mario Odyssey’s. Loot crates will be one of its biggest faults.

      • ronin4life

        Still can’t believe they did that.

        “Hey everyone, specialist classes are back”

        “Yay”

        “AND the progression system from the “first” Battlefront has been upgraded… into a pay to win gatcha fest!!! Woo alright!”

        “Wut”

  • Coonfoot

    Wait, aren’t there like 900 Korok seeds?
    Oh dear…

  • Graeme Masciuch

    “it’s tempting to say Mario has never felt better in the palms.’”
    amazing unintentional comedy 😉

    • MagcargoMan

      Mama Mia!

  • Picnicl .

    I could be way off but, with the wedding plot, the song lyric about every journey being a ‘new’ romance, and the fact that at least one previous damsel, Pauline, is in the game, I wonder if this is Nintendo’s ‘All You Need Is Love’ game that’ll feature more than just Mario and Peach’s relationship? Dinosaurs in love?

  • Ruby

    Google is paying 97$ per hour,with weekly payouts.You can also avail this.
    On tuesday I got a brand new Land Rover Range Rover from having earned $11752 this last four weeks..with-out any doubt it’s the most-comfortable job I have ever done .. It sounds unbelievable but you wont forgive yourself if you don’t check it
    !dy201d:
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  • MagcargoMan

    Over 200 comments. Gee, Odyssey must be getting a lot of people excited in the comm…

    Oh…

  • Si2k78

    “Portable mode feels a little like a compromise compared to playing with Joy-Cons in separate hands, partly because it can be hard to make out distant targets on the smaller screen. The TV feels like Odyssey’s natural home.”

    Digital foundry seconds the fact that when playing hand held or table top mode on the 720p display, some distant details are not visible, but they don’t go as far as to say it’s a compromise to the tv mode. This is interesting, because one of the big selling points to the switch’s design is that you can have the same experience on the go as you can have on the couch. Edge’s review is counter to that assertion.

  • MagcargoMan

    Anyway, to comment on the article itself:
    “Even leaving Cappy out of the equation, our hero has been furnished with his most expansive moveset to date”
    I couldn’t really tell from the footage given Mario never regained all his punch and kick attacks from Super Mario 64 but then again he does have new abilities like the roll so maybe he does.

    “The party continues in the postgame too’ but no explicit details. There’s some kind of spoilery stuff about references to earlier games”
    I wonder if this likely referring to the Mushroom Kingdom (probably new areas of it that weren’t accessible before beating the game) or perhaps Isle Delfino as was implied on the world map.

    “Odyssey feels like a true reinvention of the sandbox platformer”
    I can’t really think of any other sandbox platformers to be honest.

    “Peach, for her part, is no damsel in distress and her role expands in the post-game, although not in the way you might expect.”
    I’m rather intrigued by this line, since “not in the way you might expect” implies her expanded role isn’t a playable one.

  • Addy

    Holy cow, people are losing their minds over one person’s opinion of how the game controls. If that person does not like how the game control then respect his opinion and move on with your life. But no, instead you idiots keep banging your fists on the keyboard and keep at it until you get your way or just give up. And calling that person a psychopath or having autism or whatever crude adjective you can think of without thinking first before you type like a regular human being and not an ape? My goodness. You people. Have fun in your hugbox, idiots.

    • Vigilante_blade

      I’ll say, we had disagreements before, but I do appreciate it.

  • Ardisan

    This comment section is f*cking awful. 250+ comments of pure stupidity and useless bickering.

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Genre: PLATFORMER
Publisher: Nintendo
Developer: Nintendo
Release date: October 27, 2017
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