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Kimishima on 3DS focus plus NX software lineup, profitability, missing the holidays

Posted on April 29, 2016 by (@NE_Brian) in 3DS, News, Switch

Nintendo just put up the Q&A portion of its latest investors briefing. An official translation will likely be posted next week, but Cheesemeister has provided a summary for some of the topics discussed.

In what’s been translated, Nintendo president Tatsumi Kimishima touched on how Nintendo will be focusing on 3DS in the near-term. For NX, he touched on the need to build up NX’s software lineup, profitability (what that means for pricing), and how Nintendo will be missing the holiday season. Head past the break for the translation.

Q: It seems the great reduction in the Wii U hardware sales forecast is influenced by the timing of the NX release, but how about 3DS?

A: This fiscal year, the 3DS has big titles as previously presented, and in sufficient quantity. Both hardware and software will make large contributions to sales. Also, while Wii U sales are forecast to drop to 800,000 units, the upside is that we can focus on the 3DS.

Q: While NX details are not being announced today, I want to know about its effect on results for this fiscal year. Previous launches have not had enough titles and were therefore slow to start. Can you promise to have a proper lineup at launch? The Wii U was a net negative, so also in consideration to cost, please tell me how the first year of the NX will contribute to results.

A: As the concept and other details of NX will be announced another time, I will just answer the points of your question. As you said the software lineup will be built-up. Having a full software lineup when the hardware launches is one reason for the NX launch timing. Also, we must be in a state to release titles not just at launch, but continually afterwards. We are planning for it to be a platform that will be played for a long time. Next, about cost, we aren’t thinking of the hardware being unprofitable. When the Wii U launched the exchange rate was that of a very strong yen, and so that we don’t have that kind of a situation again, launching as a loss-leader won’t be what makes up our business, so that’s how we’re progressing with NX development.

Q: You indicated that building up software is the reason why NX will be released in March 2017, and I know development takes time, but I don’t think there’s any reason in missing the year-end sales season. When the GameCube was launched in September, I recall that President Yamauchi said that, “It is absolutely imperative that we do not miss the year-end sales season,” and after the 3DS launched in February and NX will miss the year-end, making an impression that Nintendo’s conventional thinking has changed. Why is NX launching in March?

A: There is no change to our thinking about launch timing. When launching hardware, “How much software can customers play?” is important. Launch timing must be based on that. Customers having more money to spend during the holiday season is one big factor in starting then. But our integrated hardware/software business doesn’t end that year, but is something that can continue to be played for several years so we think that “releasing something proper” is the most important thing. By that, we don’t think “holiday season timing is a must” but rather that we should launch when we can provide something proper. That point has not changed.

Q: While the forecasted sales for the Wii U this fiscal year are extremely weak, NX contributions to profitability seem to be included appearing to be numbers showing that, “We have some confidence in the NX, which will start with a sprint.” Do you believe that the new NX will be able to cover for the decline of the Wii U?

A: We have forecast Wii U sales of 800,000 units for this fiscal year, a decline from 2.4m units last fiscal year. In terms of what will cover for it, essentially, the NX and smart device businesses will be central, and also, the download content business is included.

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  • Kallumsmarties

    I imagine we will see nee games at E3, just Zelda is the only one playable at the show floor and don’t wanna mix the NX in all of that. They will want to make a big event and puts all of their focus on the NX.

    • KnightWonder

      Right. They said Zelda would be their focus, but that doesn’t mean they can’t talk about other things as well on the side.

      • link2metroid

        They said Zelda U would be the only playable game.

        • KnightWonder

          Playable doesn’t mean the only game.

          • link2metroid

            There’s no more new Wii U games coming. Paper Mario: Colour Splash was the last to be announced.

          • Kallumsmarties

            I’m not just talking abut Wii U here. I’m talking about 3DS too. What I’m saying is they will probably announce new games at E3 whether they might make some small budget Wii U games or announce new games for 3DS, but they only want Zelda to be playable at the show floor. There was no mention of revealing new games at E3,

          • link2metroid

            Well I am talking about Wii U.

          • Kallumsmarties

            Well I’m not.

          • RoadyMike

            This is something I’ve been seeing for a long time now and it’s pissing me off.
            Why is it that when someone raises the legitimate and true case of the Wii U not having much (if anything) left for it, Nintendo fans say “Well, the 3DS has x amount of games, the 3DS is getting, 3DS,3DS”- Stahp
            We know how well Nintendo handled the 3DS after they saved it from that bad launch. We know the 3DS is getting games out the @zz. The concern HERE AND NOW is why Nintendo hasn’t done the same for the Wii U. The 3DS can take care of itself, the Wii U was barely cared for

          • Fisaulerod

            However, saving the Wii U would have been much more difficult. The 3DS didn’t have a strong competitor and developing games for the 3ds is much faster and cheapier than for the Wii U.

          • RoadyMike

            I’m not denying that, but it like they didn’t even try anymore halfway through. Almost like Sony and their Vita

          • Kenshin0011

            Sony stopped Vita focus/development to focus on PS4 just as Nintendo did for Wii U.

            Though objectively, Sony killed the Vita WAY worse than what Nintendo has done to the Wii U.

          • RoadyMike

            Hence the “almost” part 😛 .The situation is kind of the same

          • Fisaulerod

            Agree. They just give up at some point in …2015? (probably after the release of Smash4) . However I wouldn’t just say that it’s almost like the vita. Nintendo really tried to launch strong Wii U games for a while, but they couldn’t do much more. I mean, yes, Nintendo never fixed the marketing, and they never cut the console price, but the important points couldn’t be fixed. Nintendo heavily underestimated HD development, third party games were lost almost from the beggining thanks to architecture and low sales, etc. The Wii U was bad designed in almost all its aspects.

          • Radish

            You really need to give up on the Wii U. It’s dead. Get over it.

          • RoadyMike

            AHAHAHA, who, me? I know full well the Wii U is dead, I’ve known that for months now. I’m simply a disappointed customer.

          • Radish

            I’m happy with the games they did make, and happier that the future games will be on a better system rather than a dead system.

          • Kenshin0011

            I feel the same, though I realize there are people (more rather than less) that are not inherent Nintendo fans enough to give them a pass for flubbing the Wii U.

            I mean, there’s still millions who are salty over the Wii and completely left Nintendo products all together.

            Hopefully Nintendo is more self aware with the NX and tries to not only bring those who are long gone since 2010, but also some of their loyal fans where Wii U is the last straw and might be considering joining those who have abandoned Nintendo.

            The cold truth is that most people are not as forgiving as you and I. That’s not to say we don’t criticize or identify Nintendo’s issues, but it’s safe to say there’s a 95% chance we’ll be buying the NX no matter what.
            Most consumers aren’t like that.

          • Radish

            Yeah, but the lapsed Nintendo fans have no interest in the Wii U, so why should Nintendo keep supporting Wii U when it is far more important from a business sense to focus on NX? At least with NX you have a chance of bringing back lapsed fans a newcomers. That’s why I’m okay with this.

          • Kenshin0011

            Right! Wii U is done, and Nintendo made the right call to shift focus when they did.

            They really have an excellent oppurtunity with the NX to truly reinvent themselves, like a phoenix rising from the ashes, especially now that they are evolving past the “Wii” brand.

            The Wii U was essentially a test/transition console into modern HD gaming. The concept behind Miiverse is excellent, but isn’t executed all that well, in addition to their whole overall online service still lacking modern features. It’s like Miiverse was ahead of its time.

          • Velen (Not WoW)

            “evolving past the Wii brand”

            We still only know the NX by it’s codename at this point, just wanted to point that out.

          • Kenshin0011

            “I can assure you we’re not building the next version of Wii or Wii U. It’s something unique and different. It’s something where we have to move away from those platforms in order to make it something that will appeal to our consumer base.”
            – Kimishima, TIME magazine

            It will not be called “Wii” anything, it’s a generation past that brand.

          • Velen (Not WoW)

            My point was we still don’t know the system’s definitive name. For all we know it could be a play on Mii instead of Wii.

          • Kenshin0011

            Maybe, but I really hope not.

            I think they will keep Mii’s around as user avatars, but based on his comments above, the system will not be defined by the Wii brand and that includes Mii imo

          • ForeVision

            Forgiveness can lead to abuse if one is not careful enough, a lot of consumers decided they didn’t want any part of that, and they’re right for it. However, many a now grown adult has a soft spot for Nintendo, which is definitely in their favor, but all things come to an end, let’s hope they manage to salvage what’s left.

          • TheWeasel

            What I’m wondering is why people are so upset that the Wii U’s time is nearly up? Were they not expecting this? Nintendo home consoles have all been succeeded after being out between 5 to 6 years. The March release of NX means the Wii U will have had a normal console life span. Or what is it that I’m missing?

          • RoadyMike

            It’s how Nintendo handled the Wii U that irks me.
            Concept even they couldn’t grasp, terrible advertising, severe lack of 3rd party support(except for indies I guess), still bad online – you get the idea.

          • TheWeasel

            Ah, I suppose I see now. So, people were hoping that as long as the Wii U wasn’t being succeeded yet, there was still time to improve its situation, but now that the “finish line” is within sight, they can’t see much happening for Wii U until then?

          • RoadyMike

            Pretty much. The Wii U was finally on a roll too

          • TheWeasel

            That is true, I did feel like it was picking up steam. Surprisingly, I’m a bit disappointed that I might not get to use the gamepad in new ways for future games (assuming the NX does away with the Gamepad design). I’ve had a lot of fun using it in different ways, most recently with Star Fox Zero. It’s so different, but I’ve truly enjoyed it.

            Much like the DS’s two screens, it was strange at first, but eventually I appreciated the things it allowed me to do in games, and didn’t mind even when they didn’t fully utilize the functionality. I’ve noticed that many earlier first-party DS games had you use the touchscreen as much as possible, all the buttons and input could be done using the touchscreen. Later on, they started to not make all input possible on the touchscreen. I remember seeing a lot of touch/button input in Pokemon HGSS, but it went back to button only in Pokemon BW. But I digress.

            I will certainly keep enjoying my Wii U and its games for years to come alongside my NX.

          • Radish

            What do you mean it “was a chance for Nintendo to show everyone they had finally learned from the Wii”? The Wii was their most successful console; if anything was to be learned it was that the Wii was the best idea they’ve had in a long time.

          • RoadyMike

            Sales wise, yes, the Wii was a success. BUT, the reason the Wii was so successful is because Nintendo went after and appealed to a giant untapped demographic.
            Ironically, its that same mentality that played a part in why the Wii U failed. Casuals have moved to mobile, Nintendo has lost that market. That’s why they’re going into mobile now

          • Radish

            And that’s why I’m glad they went mobile finally. The Wii U was simply an attempt to bring Wii gaming into HD and win over people who enjoy using tablets. They wouldn’t have done that if Wii wasn’t their most successful console of all time. So to suggest that Nintendo needed to learn anything from Wii era other than it was a huge success is revisionist history. It’s easier to learn from your failures than your successes sometimes.

          • RoadyMike

            And people call me an apologist..
            I give up. Nintendo failed to read the market when the Wii U came out, they’re paying for it now, a lot of fans are regretting their purchase and their trust in Nintendo has truly been shaken; more than before.
            I’m out

          • Radish

            If you bought a Wii U and are upset with your purchase, that is on you. Clearly not a lot of people bought a Wii U, so Nintendo isn’t going to worry about upsetting the handful of people who actually bought one while they try to expand their install base with the NX.

          • RoadyMike

            Sure

          • Radish

            Nice talking to you, Smokey.

          • RoadyMike

            Remember, Only You can prevent flame wars 😛

          • link2metroid

            It hasn’t had a normal console life span. There’s been sparse releases throughout. The console is dead now, has been for some time. There’s still a year until NX arrives and what are all the quality games that are coming in that time for Wii U?

          • RoadyMike

            Some indie stuff…and..Mario paper rpg thing? Zelda will be on NX…

          • TheWeasel

            I’m not sure if you understand what the life span means. The length of the Wii U’s life will be completely satisfactory. Although, it could probably not be considered a very healthy lifespan (with regards to reception or software), but it will have lived a normal amount of time.

          • RoadyMike

            I’m not denying that a lot of games on the system were good, or that I didn’t enjoy them. It’s just that, in hindsight, the Wii U was a less than satisfactory purchase in the long run

          • Advance*

            Well I don’t understand why people act like Nintendo wanted the Wii U to fail. The 3DS is getting games because it was successful. The Wii U isn’t because it was a failure. It wouldn’t make sense to dump resources into a new big game for the Wii U right now when that would just mean one less game for NX’s launch.

          • Radish

            Finally someone here gets it.

          • RoadyMike

            Who’s saying Nintendo wanted the Wii U to fail? They themselves screwed it up,multiple times throughout the entirety of its lifespan. Now even they are jumping ship

          • Operative

            Which is still really weird considering ff and color splash are coming this year. It’s still deeply concerning.

    • Zuxs13

      They said we will see new games at E3, new 3DS games. We won’t get much of anything out of the Wii U.

      • Kallumsmarties

        I’m not saying we will get loads, but I do feel we will get something. Kimishima also spoke about DLC. Something they could easily do with the Wii U so that they can keep consumers busy.

        • r4ind4nce

          *rubs hands* Hyrule Warriors, baby! I could start drooling just thinking about those new DLC characters. And who knows, maybe they’ll throw some new MK8 DLC out there? Boy, that would be swell!

    • The said ONLY PLAYABLE they didn’t say the wouldn’t have any other games shown or revealed.

      Some people need to read the information first and understand what being said.

      • I swear I’ve been saying the same damn thing. Who knows…….Pikmin 4 could be a cross platform release but coming to the Wii U first

  • John Enigma

    And here I thought that Zelda U was gonna be the perfect swan song to the Wii U. But knowing that Kimishima-san said that Nintendo will end Wii U productions by March 2018, it feels like Nintendo will have some great games left for the console after all.

    • link2metroid

      No. Production of the Wii ended late in 2013 but the console was effectively dead in 2010. There was a couple of games in 2011, Skyward Sword and Xenoblade Chronicles but the year was essentially like this year for Wii U but even worse.

  • link2metroid

    That’s great for 3DS owners but what are we as Wii U owners supposed to buy?

    • ForeVision

      What this basically tells us is that Wii-U owners are thoroughly and royally screwed. There isn’t much left of Kimishima’s words in which he said that he wanted “more games for Wii-U like Super Mario Maker and Splatoon” as there’s total silence on this subject.

      There’s a very very faint glimmer of hope in that regard, but the 800,000 sales forecast and the focus on 3DS all but hang a dark sorrowful shroud above the owners of the Wii-U.

      • Radish

        Kimishima made that statement last year before Pokken, Twilight Princess, Star Fox, Paper Mario, and Zelda were released. These are the games he is referring to. Why would they waste more money on development for Wii U when they absolutely need to be strong out of the gate with NX?

        • Kenshin0011

          ^ This.

          I’m always so surprised when people do not remember the context and time that this was said by him.

          Besides Paper Mario Sticker Star 2, there’s no reason to believe anything else 1st party is coming from Ninendo.

          The only possible one would be Pikmin 4, but I don’t see why Nintendo would launch a game like that to just die on the Wii U.

          They’ve outright stated they only expect 800,000 this fiscal year, which indicates no more big releases.

          • ForeVision

            The moment they offer a good discount off of your NX purchase by returning your Wii-U, I would forgive them for letting the Wii-U die like this.

          • Kenshin0011

            Not only is the thought of that happening unrealistic and naive, but I wouldn’t want nor expect them to do that.

            The NX is a 3rd pillar and might not even be backwards compatible.

            So keep your Wii U, as I will keep mine, and enjoy it for what it is.

          • Joachim

            So far we don’t know also we don’t know if Nx will have Wii U digital backward library also add GameCube backward too. I will wait till they make some ‘real’ anouncement by Nintendo.

          • Radish

            That’s not how business works. No one is going to accept your Wii U because Wii U has no sales potential in the future.

            And I still don’t understand how all of sudden your Wii U is crap because it isn’t getting anymore games. Is your SNES crap as well? Just play the games you bought, there are still tons of games I have to get to, so I’m glad I can budget for NX while playing Wii U games.

          • ForeVision

            I’m not saying my Wii-U is crap, I just find it sincerely lacking in the titles of my preference, where-as it could’ve been different and so I find that to be a shame.

            And you can only replay a game so many times before you get tired of it, just for the record I’ve plenty of time on my hands due to things very far outside of my reach to influence, hence I’ve played through my entire Wii-U catalog and sold most of it.

          • Joachim

            He always twist your words you never said crap…….Very lame tho’ Don’t try to argue with him Lol Waste of time!

          • ForeVision

            Agreed, though I guess for me it’s feels like “Nintendo’s getting away with it” in what they’re doing with Wii-U and that’s what bugs me most. A wrong way of thinking perhaps but it feels unfair nevertheless.

          • Joachim

            Nintendo already say that, Kimishima said that after he was named president of Nintendo, don’t except good things from them to support the system after January 2017 is clearly enough they support the system for you guys only! Because Nintendo have 10/12M of faithful costumers they will buy again another console in the future so they know already that! Look the good side Nintendo isn’t Sony and left vita on the side with No-Support.
            Nintendo is a great company but I can’t be agree in everything or buy anything from them. Nevertheless, Nintendo it’s been good to me. Like I said in the past I have mix feelings the extreme secretly of NX could be good or bad, only time will say if they do the right thing or not.

          • ForeVision

            You’ve got a point. It’s hard nevertheless to shake the feeling that you as a Wii-U owner have gotten the flak. I wonder if Nintendo appreciates those who actually have their “mistake” in their living room….

          • Joachim

            They got flaked because the minority of Nintendo dedicate gamers liked the Wii U and the majority of gamers didn’t like it. The lack of third party dev, lack of spec, Gamepad (we have already iPads and tablets), first party with Gamepad or buy extra $€£¥ features pro-control, wiicontrol/nunchuck. Very pricey console if you think about it.

            Well think of this, Nintendo could drop Wii U in the second/third year like they did with Virtual Boy. Take a moment to appreciate what Nintendo did for you guys. At least Nintendo give you around 5 years.

          • ForeVision

            Could be, and i can see what people mean when they say it’s good that the Wii-U is at it’s practical end. However, what would indicate the NX is what it should be, an actual good console without any silly gimmicks? that’s the thing, we don’t know, nobody knows, and we’ve but to trust Nintendo and hope they’ve learned.

          • Joachim

            Yep…..Hopefully they already learn the lessons of the past and finally they work out one single control works in everything, with NOT mandatory accessories! If they don’t they’ll screw big time! Lol

          • ForeVision

            It will come, if they realize at least that most people buy Nintendo consoles not for the gimmick, but for the games and more often than not the gimmick gets in the way of the games (Starfox Zero anyone?). I’d guess their thought process with the Wii-U was tapping into the same demographic that allow the Wii to lift them from the bottom of the valley (and taking their loyal fanbase along via IP like Xenoblade), back to the middle/top of the mountain, however from what I’ve heard (don’t quote me on this) that demographic is now indulged in Mobile games (which they’re working on with their mobile part so i guess that’s covered).

            Which would leave this, hybrid home console or whatever it is free to have hardcore games like Monster Hunter and Xenoblade together with games oriented more towards everyone like Mario and Animal Crossing, at least that’s what it looks like.

            Do give me your take on this, as more thoughts to a discussion can only lead to revelations.

          • pcenginekid

            You might want to be less optimistic. It’s nintendo you’re talking about here. The gamecube was the last traditional console and it’s the worst selling nintendo system next to the Wii U. They’re not ever going to make a traditional console. Also, project NX was initiated when Iwata was still around so you can be assured that it’s going to be another gimmick machine to “widen the audience”.

          • ForeVision

            But even Nintendo in all their density has to get the message that the crowd which made the Wii the success that it was, has gone over to mobile. Besides, i get their wanting to differentiate themselves from competitors, and that this exact attitude saved them from their worst time, but has their need for a gimmick helped them all that much with Wii-U? Even Nintendo has to see the light some day.

          • Joachim

            It’s true many people buy is for the games but like I said the dedicate Nintendo fans or their parent teach their children about the old times of Nintendo. Not saying youngsters don’t like without you telling them, but overall is mouth by mouth. Many mistakes did Nintendo the mentality of Taka or Galapagos Syndrome. They need learn to open outside of Japan marketing, let’s see and hope the best for everybody who loves Nintendo won’t going out of business and they learned the good lesson heard the feedbacks of costumers in general. Not heard trolls or morons Lol

            Cheers^^

    • Kira – HylianKeyblade

      Well there are usually coming out good vc and indies now and then, so I don’t think it will be too bad for the Wii U, but I do agree that it does feel a bit barren for the Wii U now.

      (Personally I am will try to clean up my backlog a bit).

      Either way, hopefully there are at least one more first party Wii U game coming out :-).

    • Zuxs13

      Take a year off

    • awng781

      An NX.

  • Kira – HylianKeyblade

    I am glad we have more 3DS titles to look forward to either before or at E3 :-).

    I am personally fine with that the NX is coming next year as I know I will have to many games to finish anyway as usual ;^^. Glad to hear that Nintendo are trying to have as good as possible lineup for the NX.

    Either way, I guess we will know in less than 2 months :-).

  • GMB

    I’m worried about the ”we aren’t thinking of the hardware being unprofitable”.. I hope this doesn’t mean that they’ll go with the gimped hardware route again..

    • Andrew

      The only thing I can gleam from that statement is that, either they’re expecting to sell big, or the console’s price isn’t low.

      • GMB

        That actually makes lots of sense.. I hope you’re right.

        • Andrew

          We’ll see. The Wii U’s problem wasn’t necessarily major weakness in the hardware, just more difficulty in porting games over too it, combined with a lack of sales, and Nintendo’s internet not being that great (advertising issues and possibly other things could be added to the list). I say this because, while I’m sure the Wii U was behind the PS4 and XBox One, there were still titles being made both for those systems and PS3 and 360. And I know the Wii U is ahead of those at least.

          We’ll see what happens. I do hope it’s at least able to keep up with the competition, if only to improve Nintendo’s image. The one reason I’m concerned about that is due to how high the price could end up. I’m keeping my fingers crossed at $400 max.

    • No…..I think he’s saying that the NX may cost a pretty penny this time around. Notice how Kimishima-san never used the word ” affordable ” at all when talking about the NX and how he only said profitable? If this is the case then I’m ok with it so long as the games are there

      • Kenshin0011

        I hope so.

        Consumers nowadays expect premium products and as proven by Apple, Sony, Samsung, etc., do not mind paying a pretty penny for them.

        • How right you are my friend. What is the best selling smartphone in the world? The iPhone 6 and it was super expensive when it first debuted and still has a hefty price tag

        • Joachim

          Actually is more a trend of fashion to be accepted in the gruop thing.

  • Zuxs13

    He skirts the question of the NX launch timing a bit, he still refuses to say whether or not it was delayed or planned for 2017. It’s pretty obvious it was delayed, and hopefully for good enough reasons.

    He seems confident it will have a strong launch line up, but so did the WiiU. It’s the follow up games that matter, and it’s good to hear they have that planned out too.

    • link2metroid

      I agree with most of what you said but the Wii U didn’t have great launch games.

      • Zuxs13

        Yes I did. It launched with CoD, ME3, Zombie U, New Super Mario Bros U. and Nintendoland, plus several other titles. That is a great launch line up.

        • RoadyMike

          2 ports of games everyone else already played, a decent game, a rehash and a tech demo. Great lineup indeed

          • Melatelo

            I think Nintendo Land was much more than a tech demo. I’ve had some of the most fun gaming fun sessions ever with my mates on that title.

          • Fisaulerod

            And still it’s an average party game. it’s far from being a system seller.
            The Wii U didn’t have a Wii Sports or Zelda:TP. In fact, the first Wii U system seller was…Mario Kart 8, 1 year and a half after the launch.

          • Melatelo

            Wasn’t average in the slightest for me. Average would be MP10

          • Fisaulerod

            Average for most people. Only a few would buy a wii u for Nintendo Land.
            It’s not like the party game side of Smash or Mario kart, which are certainly system sellers.

    • Kenshin0011

      Yea I agree, the Wii U had a great launch line-up imho. One can only purchase so much software with a new system day 1 anyway.

      You’re right, it seems that the key here is being in a better position to continually stream games without droughts.

      Perhaps this March decision is also to give 3rd parties more time to develop, not just themselves.

      While we can assume the NX is going to be x86 and easier to develop for, who knows what the “gimmick” is, which may require some more time to flesh out.

      • RoadyMike

        The “give devs more time to dev” theory depends whether or not they have dev kits at all yet. Even they haven’t seen the actual console. They can’t develop games for something they haven’t seen or gotten their hands on yet.
        I’d rather they talk about the NX sometime soon, so developers have -something- to go by

        • Kenshin0011

          There are multiple confirmations that some 3rd parties have dev kits.

          • RoadyMike

            Must have missed those.All I know is that many developers are considering porting/developing games to the NX, not that they had kits already
            Link plz 🙂

          • Kenshin0011

            Well it was confirmed yesterday that tecmo koei has one.

            There are others and it seems to be that it’s mostly Japanese devs.

            I’m assuming that Nintendo when talking to other 3rd parties told then the specs and some capabilities, but bot everything, in an effort to keep it secret but still give them an idea that they can easily develop for it. Everyone will know more soon

          • RoadyMike

            oohh, I thought you meant that it’s been known for a good while that devs have the kits. I’m aware of SE and TK(though KOEI’s was pretty recent) I knew about those

          • Some indie devs has gone on record by saying they have dev kits too

          • Only one so far that confirm is KOEI Tecmo and Square Enix kinda screwed up with DQXI confirming it.

      • Nintendo is definitely going the x86 route with the NX…..at this point they really don’t have a choice but Nintendo’s in house developmental teams may need more time to get familiar with the architecture given that they’ve never worked with x86 before so this may explain why the date was changed from it’s previous state

        • Joachim

          Well if Nintendo wants be succesfull they need pleased devs with the easier software out there. Who want a complicated software?

    • Joachim

      Was delayed for the fiscal year in Japan ends in March so they wanna not mix Wii U sales to NX. They want a new fresh start!

      • Zuxs13

        Yeah I agree. I am just cautiously optimistic about the launch timing. I feel like 3rd party will be there, I am just afraid that with it launching in March, it will end up with 4-6 month old ports of third party fall games.

        • Joachim

          If the system itself will be outstanding media won’t slaughter NX, and that is 1+ a favor to Nintendo, third-party dev will make games if not media will slaughter third party for not support NX and believe me (EA, Activision and Ubisoft) wont like one bit bad publicity against them.

          I have mix feelings about the extreme secrecy of NX, bad and good the same time.

          I hope Kimishima can save Nintendo…….

          • Zuxs13

            Yeah I have a feeling we wont hearing anything official about the NX until September, and that would really suck. 4 more months of rumors and leaks.

          • Joachim

            Lol I know the feeling…..but the rumors in the next months sill be more solid because I bet Foxconn will leak something I bet that!

          • Zuxs13

            I agree

  • r4ind4nce

    Huh. With all this talk about the new Zelda being to only playable game at E3 I wonder whether we’ll see a similar demo load-out for users at home as we did last year, even if it’s just indies. Sure, Zelda might be the only playable game “AT” E3, but nothing is stopping Nintendo from bringing special E3 demos to people’s homes again. That seems like a pretty useful approach in my regard. But may they’ll really only show stuff and put most of their money on people being blown away by the new Zelda.
    Sheesh, I’m so ready to be blown away by that xD

    • Andrew

      While I think expectations should be tempered in any situation, it’s important to keep in mind that Zelda is the only playable *Nintendo* game there, as far as we know. This opens the possibility of games from other devs, third party like Monster Hunter, or indie like Yooka-Laylee could be featured for the system.

      • r4ind4nce

        Hey, right! People completely lose sight of that over all the naysaying. Good reminder!

      • RoadyMike

        I just hope IGA plans Bloodstained for the NX later on, though I wouldn’t blame him if he didn’t

        • Andrew

          I don’t think he can, since that was a reward tier on his Kickstarter. It wouldn’t look good to back out of it. More likely, it will happen, and an NX version will come out later on.

          • I think an NX version will happen sooner rather than later…..especially if it’s using x86 architecture. It would be super easy to port

          • Andrew

            Yeah. They can use a copy from their PC version and port it over, or use the Wii U version, whichever is easiest.

  • Kenshin0011

    We are planning for it to be a platform that will be played for a long time.

    This is great news! This makes me think the patent/theory is true about all the NX systems in standby mode lending their processing power to the cloud to give those who are playing the NX a boost in power. Conceivably, there’d be no limits to how goo the graphics and performance could be optimized over time!

    • If that is the case the NX will be the most amazing home console in the history of gaming. Maybe this is the reason why they opted not to show it at E3 because they feared that Sony and Microsoft would try to mimic their idea or it just wasn’t ready to be shown. I really hope Nintendo shows off the NX very soon and I mean VERY SOON

      • Kenshin0011

        If what I believe (and what i want) is true, which isn’t unfounded because their patent more or less indicates this, then I totally support them keeping the NX secret for as long as possible.

      • Joachim

        Also they do with the Japanese fiscal year ends in March 2017 and start the same month so they wanna start good fresh start and not mix the Nx sales with Wii U/3DS to be slaughed by media NX is a failure in sales.

  • Justmadeanaccount2

    I hope they have Mario Kart for NX at launch. 🙂

    • Kenshin0011

      I think that both NX Smash Bros and MK will come out pretty quickly 😉

    • Radish

      Mario Kart was just released 2 years ago. I wouldn’t expect it before 2018.

    • nah. Console Mario Kart games has always came 2 years after the system is out.
      Double Dash, Wii and 8 did.

      • Justmadeanaccount2

        Nope. Mario Kart 64 came out a few months after the console was released. Mario Kart is their most popular game, so it’s possibly that it could get a launch release because they need some heavy hitters

        • One games vs 3 games

          Uh sorry not happening.

          • Justmadeanaccount2

            Dude stfu and stop trying to start arguments over nothing. You don’t know what Nintendo is doing.

          • RoadyMike

            No one’s starting arguments tho. How bout you chill or get out? Its all good discussions here till we get banned

          • Justmadeanaccount2

            No one is talking to you. Why involve yourself? I can do whatever the hell I want to do, mind your business.

          • RoadyMike

            The same way you can do what you wish, other can to. I don’t see you mining your own if you’re telling others to shut up.So sit down boy

        • Plus Mario Kart 64 wasn’t really pushing the N64.
          Double Dash, Wii and 8 did.

  • Burning Gravity

    *insert comment acting like I know what I’m talking about here*

    • Kenshin0011

      My uncle’s neighbor’s cat works for Nintendo tho….

      • Bradley

        I think we are cousins

    • Bradley

      Interesting opinion you have there.

    • RoadyMike

      Shh, you’ll blow the cover of 95% of the internet

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    • TheWeasel

      Because of the fact that we’ve only had announcements and the like, and there’s little we actually know about anything announced, I’ve found it better to just stay out of the discussions on these articles. Nearly everything being argued by anyone on them is merely speculation of what will be or what will happen.

      • Kenshin0011

        Speculation is part of the fun though. As someone who is hyper-interested in Nintendo everything (hehe see what I did there), I can’t help but speculate about what’s to come, and coming to NE and discussing with a mostly awesome community here is great.

        • TheWeasel

          True, but you can burned out when you get stuck discussing or even arguing with one or more doomsayers who just want to complain for the sake of it.

          That’s too tiring for me right now, and I honestly don’t have the time for it. So I’ve stuck to just reading a few comments this time around, and occasionally pitching in.

          Usually, though, I prefer to not speculate too much and just wait for the authentic confirmations. Too many people wind up upset or disappointed because the reality isn’t what they expected, even if the reality wasn’t actually disappointing or bad.

          • Kenshin0011

            Yea it’s important to keep things in perspective and not be let down if what you believe to happen doesn’t happen.

          • TheWeasel

            I do understand that myself. The problem is when people who don’t understand that are disappointed and become the complainers and doomsayers that plague comment sections.

  • NintendoPSXTheSecond

    All I need to know is if they’re dropping the Wii brand. That brand name needs to die. It’s synonymous with kiddie, motion controls and confusion. You can call this new console ANYTHING, just drop the Wii brand please. Your brand name should have just always been NINTENDO (Insert weird quirky console name).
    Kill the Wii Brand.

    • RoadyMike

      200% agree

    • 49ers fan

      and you think that will fix it?… you know nintendo is in the kiddie business, thats their target. not 30 year old manbabies in mancaves, that whine every time when nintendo dont do what they want.

      • TheWeasel

        Are you saying that Nintendo doesn’t cater to you, then?

        • 49ers fan

          its you they dont cater to, i love nintendo.

          • TheWeasel

            They are catering to most of what I like, and I thoroughly enjoy what they provide, but I see you complaining fairly often about what they do and what they make. So why would you say that? I’m mostly happy with Nintendo.

      • Addy the Wanderer

        Add ‘virgin’ and ‘lives in mommy’s basement’.

    • Fandangle

      “It’s synonymous with kiddie, motion controls and confusion.”
      This is exactly what they’re going for though. Or did you miss how their entire western branch basically targets kids with their M and T rated games?

  • Reggie

    “Having a full software lineup when the hardware launches is one reason for the NX launch timing. Also, we must be in a state to release titles not just at launch, but continually afterwards.”
    Really hope this becomes true.

  • Some Guy who wanted to comment

    Is the 3DS immortal?

    • RoadyMike

      Yes and no. But mostly yes

      • KGRAMR

        Better question,is the DS immortal?

        • RoadyMike

          Yes.No doubt about it

  • KGRAMR

    Those are some positive things about the NX,but UNLESS i see the hardware,i’ll keep my hype levels to absolute ZERO.

  • Addy the Wanderer

    *Looks at pic*
    Oh god, he’s old!

    • Just turned 66.

      • Addy the Wanderer

        I never got a good look at him until today.

  • Vensen

    Please please PLEASE! Combine the 3DS and the NX together so we can play our 3DS games on the big screen! Some kind of Remote play support or something would be sick. I would like to play Majora’s Mask and OoT on my 39″. 🙂 Come on Nintendo, do it!! 😀 Playing 3DS games on your TV would be pretty neat.

    • Addy the Wanderer

      I have to disagree on having 3DS games played on tv. There are some things that’s best played on a handheld.

      • NintendoPSXTheSecond

        Also expanding the size of the 3DS screen to a TV screen? Dios mio it would look disgusting! So much blur and pixels. It worked for GBA because it was basic pixels, but something polygonal like 3DS would look worse than Xenoblade 3DS.

        • Reggie

          NintendoLife reported that an emulator has made it possible to run 3DS titles in good HD. Not endorsing that, but I’m just saying it’s possible.

          • Addy the Wanderer

            I find it sad that the Wii U was easily cracked to make emulation after 2-3 years in it’s life cycle, it took 5 years for a 3DS emu to make one.

  • Eivind Jakobsen

    If i only see 3DS games on E3, and Zelda is the only Wii U game…
    Dear 3DS, say hello to my new sledgehammer.

  • Kaihaku

    On the Wii U front this is a far cry from, “I of course believe that launching new hardware will not produce good results unless we first make sure that those who have already purchased our platforms are satisfied.”