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Director says Kingdom Hearts III on Switch “maybe” possible after the game’s initial launch

Posted on July 15, 2017 by (@NE_Brian) in News, Switch

Square Enix has been showing a ton of support for Switch thus far. But if there’s one big hole missing in the company’s lineup, it would be Kingdom Hearts III.

IGN asked director Tetsuya Nomura about the possibility of Kingdom Hearts III coming to Switch. He started out by saying that the system “is definitely a very interesting piece of hardware,” though other platforms are the focus currently. After the initial launch on the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One though, Nomura did say that “maybe we can start thinking about other possibilities.”

Nomura’s full words:

“The Nintendo Switch is definitely a very interesting piece of hardware, but if we lightly say, ‘Oh yeah, we’ll be on the Nintendo Switch,’ I’m sure people will come back and say, ‘But what about the PS4 and Xbox One? We want them out first. Don’t focus on other platforms.’ So for now, we want to focus on what platforms we’ve already announced we’re going to be releasing Kingdom Hearts 3 on. And so after, perhaps, maybe we can start thinking about other possibilities.”

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  • Connor The Dreamer

    So a KHIII Final Mix? I wouldn’t be surprised, since they’ve done it for the other major KH games. I’m still not expecting it on Switch though as it’s been in development for so long elsewhere

    • PikaPlayzHD

      at least it’s being considered and may potentially happen

    • jimmy

      Doubt it’ll be final mix, more like 3.2 or whatever like all the other KH games

  • Reggie

    Translation: No.

    Also I find it hilarious how he says that XBO and PS4 users would complain about not getting theirs first, but ignores how Nintendo fans have always been saying the same thing for eons now.

    • PikaPlayzHD

      did he say no?

      • Reggie

        No, but most often “maybe” means “no” with developers. They almost never want to say it as it is.

        • PikaPlayzHD

          Reggie this is TETSUYA NOMURA, he’s not like those stupid western developers, he actually gives a darn, it means he will think about it after the game has been released

          • Reggie

            Doesn’t matter. Japanese devs have the same mindset towards Nintendo and Switch, especially after the failure of Wii U, and they’re going to respond the same. It shows.

          • Jon Turner

            No they won’t; there ar Japan devs who are absolutely interested in developing for Switch. This is not a no, and it’s NOT RULED OUT. Repeat, IT’S NOT RULED OUT.

          • Reggie

            Quit being too hopeful. You’re just being in denial and setting yourself up for disappointment.

          • PikaPlayzHD

            Reggie you’re an idiot, japanese devs have different mindsets because Switch is a big thing there, over 1 Million Units sold there, it took FASTER than PS4 to reach those numbers
            Also you act like this is too demanding for the Switch, it’s not, ffs this is tetsuya nomura, he is familiar with the Switch’s hardware and he knows what it’s capable of so if he’s saying it’s a possibility, it’s a possibility, in fact he’s on the development team for a Switch Exclusive “Xenoblade Chronicles 2” so he knows the hardware better than most devs and if he says it could happen, it means it could happen because the Switch could definitely run it
            FFS morons like you complain about third party but when there’s potential third party on the way you’re all like “Nope not gonna happen, Switch is soooo underpowered” at this point i’ve given up on people

          • Fore

            You forget that Nomura isn’t the one calling the shots in SE, and if SE doesn’t think it’ll sell, then it won’t come over. You seem to forget that this (sadly true) image of Nintendo consumers buying only Nintendo games is prevalent, besides all the other issues.

            Look at the FighterZ situation. Bandai says “Buy XV2, and we’ll talk about FigterZ” and people only want FighterZ, so you end up with: nothing. The cycle will continue if people do not care to break it!

            And yes, compared to PS4/Xbox One the Switch IS underpowered. Or did you think this: http://nintendoeverything.com/developer-a-plague-tale-innocence-not-coming-to-switch-because-of-the-systems-lack-of-power/ was said to annoy potential customers for the fun of it?

          • Velen (Not WoW)

            Monster Hunter World hasn’t been confirmed to not be coming due to lack of power, Fore. Besides, just because a game looks graphically amazing doesn’t automatically mean the Switch can’t handle it. Just looks at the graphics of Super Mario Galaxy, Galaxy 2, and Metroid Other M, the hardware of the Wii was inferior to the Switch, and yet those games looked amazing even without being graphically demanding for the system. Granted.

            I think people seriously underestimate what the Switch can handle, and overestimate how much it would take to put something on the PS4 on the Switch.

          • Fore

            I’ve no clue, Velen. I just hear people saying it’s a lot weaker, it’s handheld tech, and these developers saying it’s outright not good enough for there games. I am no technical genius, though I hear from those who know more than I do that it’s simply not a very strong system, and can’t handle these games.

          • Velen (Not WoW)

            Yeah, here’s a few questions Fore. How many of those people are actually in the industry? How many of them have flat out said it’s not powerful enough? How many of them have said it’s not good enough for their games?

            You’re fabricating majorities here.

          • Tlink7

            It gets pretty annoying when people constantly go ”the Switch packs the punch of a hamster”… based on what exactly? I hope to God that we get a Metroid 4 trailer soon so everybody can just stop spewing that nonsense. I mean Rabbids and Odyssey look incredibly beautiful, but nobody seems to notice that…

          • Velen (Not WoW)

            They’re too focused on crapping on the Rabbids.

          • Tlink7

            *sigh*
            I don’t like the Rabbids either, but if a game looks good, then it looks good. I wish there were more objective people on the planet.

          • Reggie

            LMAO.

            Your attempt at trolling is hilarious. Please, by all means, do try again. And sure, feel free to get your hopes up. I won’t be there to comfort you when it inevitably gets crushed. Seriously, take off the rose-tinted glasses and look at things from a more realistic point of view. For them to release KHIII onto the Switch, they would have to reduce its quality and optimize it to be able to play, which is something a lot of devs (Japanese devs too) don’t want to do especially not for a Nintendo console. That or you’re just being in denial and are throwing a temper tantrum that Switch might not get the most hyped game yet. But believe in whatever you want.

            Also, Tetsuya Nomura is only working on the CHARACTER DESIGNS of Xenoblade 2. That means art. Does that mean hardware programming? No, it doesn’t. Tetsuya Nomura is nothing more than a guest designer the game. That does not mean he is familiar with the Switch. He’s not the one programming, other people are.

            Oh also, Japanese devs are wary about the Switch. Case in point: Dragonball FighterZ.

          • Michael C

            MOST japanese devs are not bringing big budget games to the switch.

          • Ninty Kad

            Ignore commenting this one people…

          • Davion Alexander Blackwíng

            You do realize this is not up to Tetsuya Nomura but to Square Enix, right? They’re the ones who make those decisions and give the money. And I doubt it’ll come to the Switch nonetheless, because of the difficulties of porting, even if it supports Unreal 4 natively, the adapting would be a hell of a job.

          • Ninty Kad

            Sorry I was talking about Michael C. He’s just a troll for attention. don’t try to comment to him

          • PikaPlayzHD

            Michael C MOST Japanese Devs are, it’s the western devs that are not

      • Lance Devon

        He said “maybe.” Means maybe if they’re willing they can have a port team full of interns do it while they move to the next game project.

        It means No.

    • Exy

      “if we lightly say, ‘Oh yeah, we’ll be on the Nintendo Switch,’ I’m sure people will come back and say, ‘But what about the PS4 and Xbox One? We want them out first. Don’t focus on other platforms.’”
      Nobody on earth has ever said this.

      • Reggie

        How about you actually read the damn article.

        • Exy

          Again?

          • Reggie

            Yes, because clearly you missed the “Nomura’s full words:” part.

      • Tlink7

        People are super selfish and I’ve heard that multiple times

    • Kenshin0011

      It was an odd response

    • I’m pretty sure he’s trying to say diplomatically that due to the Switch’s different (weaker) system specs, developing a seperate Switch version might compromise the other console versions.

      Then again this is Nomura we’re talking about, who knows what’s going through his head half the damn time.

  • NintendoPSXTheSecond

    Sensible. Would take even more time and resources to bend development for Switch as well mid-way into making the game. Better to just finish it first and think about others later.

    • jimmy

      I doubt it’s a no, the released the previous in so many versions on different systems so i doubt 3 will be the final cut

    • mistnik

      Agreed. I would love a Switch version, but if the game is already using up a lot of resources just to be able to make a 2018 release, I’d rather it come out first on the initial platforms, then they can dedicate full attention to later ports.

  • Rafael Bueno

    Impossible :/

    • TDude73

      Oh yeah… right, Raph.

      • Rafael Bueno

        what you mean?

    • PikaPlayzHD

      Possible!

      • Rafael Bueno

        how can it be?
        KH 3 is a big game so the Switch might not hit it well

    • improbable

    • Lance Devon

      Absolutely possible. But going to happen? No.

      • Jon Turner

        I wouldn’t rule it out just yet. If he said “Maybe” that doesn’t mean no at all. It doesn’t mean yes, but it doesn’t mean no either.

        • Lance Devon

          The issue is S-E seems to give support to Nintendo when they have an offset team to put partial efforts onto the Switch. Meaning; Unless they got a handful of disposable interns to do it for them, even the “Final Mix” release has a very slim chance of coming to the system.

          • GamerGuy

            That’s nonsense. KH3 Final Mix will come to Switch. Square Enix does care.

  • QuestionKing3445

    I thought the Nintendo Switch is suppose to be easy to port games to. They aren’t even going to bother testing it till it releases on Xbox 1 and PS4? Then why release it at all on the system months after the game been out on the other consoles. The games not releasing till 2018 which can always change. And be delayed like every other square enix big project game recently. Whatever -_-

    • Dylan W

      People will buy Kingdom Hearts 3 on the Switch even if it’s a few months after the PS4 and XB1 versions. This isn’t some random shooter that gets played for a few months and then people are done with it, this is a game that people have been waiting a long time for and will probably sell very well when it comes out and the months after.

      • mistnik

        Yep, I don’t mind a late release. Sure it sucks, but I’d get it anyway – portable mainline KH? Count me in.

      • Michael C

        big assumption, so far switch game sales are all 1st party.

        • Flying Carpet

          while I also don’t think they will make a switch version for the game, let’s not forget that Japanese games sell better on Nintendo’s platforms due to lack of competitions from western developers,Disgaea 5 for example

        • Lance Devon

          That’s a bigger assumption games sell on Switch period.

          • Fore

            But do they sell enough? Did Disgaea 5 sell enough? Are third-parties making good money on Switch, what with many people having the “Nintendo’s machine is for their IP, I’ll buy my third-parties elsewhere” mindset? Make no mistake, the cycle is kept alive by such a mindset.

        • Fredy Rodriguez Ortega

          so far Switch does not have 3rd party games yet

          • Fore

            There’s some coming. A couple of projects, but silence surrounds those. Perhaps uncle Nintendo is cooking something behind the curtains.

      • QuestionKing3445

        The game isn’t out yet and won’t be for another year. The games been in development since 2013. Do you really think people are going to wait 6 months to a year, for a game they been anticipating since the conception of the conclusion of Kingdom Hearts II? As of now my patience has almost completely dwindled, and it doesn’t help that they’ve teased releasing the game for the Nintendo Switch. But they want us to wait even longer than that!!!! Most of the games being ported over have new features or all the DLC so theirs a reason to port, but for future games they shouldn’t release months after its initial date on the Nintendo Switch. That really decreases sales for the console since everyone who a fan of the game will already have gotten it. -_-

    • Kenshin0011

      Current and modern multiplats simply require too much horsepower for Switch to reasonably handle without the games being downgraded too much than is acceptable.

      • Fore

        That is a big part of the issue. There’s also the possibility of it being down gradable but the dev-team unwilling to do so because it’d compromise the game to much. Along with the myriad of other issues (Afraid it doesn’t sell/have the target audience etc) Not to mention that Nintendo machine, Nintendo IP mindset.

      • Tlink7

        Yeah, no. PC games are still allowed to run on decades old machines with all settings on low, looking like poop. Why can’t the Switch have that, but much less extreme? It is not like the console is much more powerful than most low-end PCs that games like LoL and Overwatch still run on… If a game uses an engine the Switch supports, downgrading should take minimal effort. Especially for a game that would do well with the Switch audience; Kingdom Hearts 3.

        • Fore

          Compromising their vision T. I’ve heard it before, something similar came from Jeff Kaplan himself.

          • Tlink7

            It wouldn’t compromise their vision… KH3 is a cartoony game; you can easily decrease things like texture resolution, lighting effects, image resolution and get more or less the same look albeit slightly less shiny.

          • Fore

            Perhaps that’s compromising their vision for them. As I’ve said, I’ve come across something similar already.

          • Tlink7

            We shall see 😀 I know I’m gonna make a tweetster and pester some people

        • Bart

          That’s what I always think, if a game won’t run good, just lower the resolution and turn off shadows, usually works for me on pc. xD

          • Fore

            Keep in mind though, Switch is based off of mobile-architecture, not PC like PS4 and Xbox One.

          • Bart

            I… don’t really know the difference? Look, I’m hardly a programming expert, but surely a developer has the means to mess about with the graphical settings of their games?

            But tbh I think a lot of western devs are unwilling to do this because they need their fancy graphical effects to hide their mediocre art design behind… But that’s just me.

          • Tlink7

            @disqus_tXhnH3VMhR:disqus
            You’re talking nonsense, Fore; the Switch isn’t the Wii U or the latter’s predecessors. Nintendo’s latest machine doesn’t use some old, in-house architecture, it uses the one supplied by Nvidia, namely the Maxwell microarchitecture. The very same used by Nvidia’s GTX GeForce graphics card line made for (high-end) PC’s 😛

            Whether or not a device is mobile or not is irrelevant. Plus the Switch supports KH3’s engine, making the process even easier.

          • Fore

            I never said it’s based off of old architecture, or in-house. It’s a mobile processor, as said maxwell is used for mobile phones. You can deny that all you want, but it will make you look like a numpty.

          • Tlink7

            Maxwell is used for a wide variety of Nvidia products, including graphics cards… you denying its use outside of mobile devices is stupid. And again, mobility has literally no bearing. The Jaguar micro-architecture used by PS4 and Xbone is used by tablets as well, for example.

            You said ”KH3 can’t come because mobile architecture”, I proved you wrong.
            Architecture has nothing to do with power, so I have no clue why you’re bringing that up in this discussion. If the porting doesn’t happen, it won’t be due to it being difficult

        • Kenshin0011

          Comparing League of Legends, and even Overwatch, to what KH3 looks like it’s turning out to be is not reasonable.

          Just because it’s cartoony doesn’t mean it’s not graphically demanding. It’s a full blown UE4 game, and this mobile console is not of the same architecture as a PC. Besides, they wouldn’t want to release a version at bare minimum settings that looks like poop. Nintendo wouldn’t want that either.

          • Velen (Not WoW)

            I think you seriously overestimate what it would take…

          • Kenshin0011

            I don’t think so, not if the game is going to look decent and presentable.

          • Velen (Not WoW)

            As I told Fore, look at Super Mario Galaxy and Galaxy 2, and Metroid Other M (last one for the graphics, not gameplay) on the Wii. The Wii is an inferior machine to the Switch, and yet those games were graphically beautiful despite the console’s capabilities.

            Not only that, the Switch has UE4 compatibility, and while that doesn’t mean every game in UE4 can run on the Switch, I think you’re seriously overestimating the sacrifices that would be required to make KH3 run on the Switch. It doesn’t have to have all kinds of super fancy, high end effects to look presentable.

            Effects can be reduced, the shadows can be toned down in resolution, high end effects can be cut back, and models can be optimized. Just because you lose polycount and a little shininess doesn’t mean it can’t look “decent and presentable”.

          • Tlink7

            Are you saying Overwatch looks crappy? I’m not a fan of the game, but it looks great.

            I never said ”cartoony = not graphically demanding”, I said ”cartoony makes it easier to scale back the graphical fidelity without it being as noticable”. Plus, the Switch isn’t a wet noodle when it comes to visual punch, so it wouldn’t need to look like poop at all. I’m sure Nintendo wouldn’t mind a slightly less prettier version of KH.

            As for the devs… these are the same people who thought reducing this
            https://middleofnowheregaming.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/kh2-roxas.jpg
            to this
            https://r.mprd.se/media/images/50296-Kingdom_Hearts_-_358-2_Days_(US)(M2)(XenoPhobia)-4.jpg
            twice was alright… If the demand is there, Squeenix will do it 😛

          • Kenshin0011

            Good point about 358/2 days, I forgot about it!

            Certainly a Switch version is possible

          • Tlink7

            Possible indeed. I’m not saying I think it is extremely likely, but I think there is a decent chance 😀

          • Kenshin0011

            I thought there was a chance too, until Nomura’s comments yesterday.

            Delayed ports, unless they are a definitive/enhanced version with *better* graphics, usually do not sell well.

          • Tlink7

            True. Depends on how many people are willing to buy a console to play KH3 on (probably a fair amount, but I’m sure there are some people like me that don’t mind waiting a bit).
            And don’t forget this is Squeenix … they love to (re)release everything Kingdom Hearts about fifty times on every available platform xD

      • QuestionKing3445

        Unreal engine 4 has a new program that literally makes it possible for the game to be optimized for the switch it shouldn’t be that difficult to port it, or at least test it…

        • Kenshin0011

          Difficulty isn’t the issue. First and foremost, it’s because PS4 and Xbox have priority. Second, there’s the issue of getting the game to look and perform decently on Switch without major concessions.

          It’d be one thing if they could release it on Switch right at the same time as the others, but to release a visually inferior and deficient version 6 months to a year later? Unlikely they’ll bother.

  • Felipe M.

    This looks very unlikely unless they’d heavily downgrade the game.

    • PikaPlayzHD

      it runs on Unreal Engine 4 and the Switch is quite powerful, more powerful than you realize, the Switch could basically run every game that uses UE4, that’s the beauty of UE4, there could be some compromises but they wouldn’t be major and it wouldn’t look drastically different, it’s not exactly got “Battlefield Graphics” has it?

      • DeltaPeng

        Just because a game runs on UE4, doesn’t mean every system that can run UE4 can play it at the same level of graphical fidelity, framerate, etc. It should mean that it’s either runnable or very easy to port, but from there, it has to be optimized based on the system.

        We know Switch isn’t as strong as ps4/xbox1, so it’s possible it would struggle to run the game, assuming the game could just be played on the Switch without some initial adjustments

        • Kalmaro

          Isn’t that what he just said?

        • PikaPlayzHD

          that’s what i just said

          • DeltaPeng

            You mentioned there wouldn’t be major or drastic changes to the graphics if KH3 ported to the Switch bc of UE4, I disagreed (I make mention that the Switch might struggle to even run the game, because of the power difference).

            This is assuming KH3 pushes PS4 to the limits, whether it does or not, idk, but presuming this is the case. It also depends on how strong the Switch is comparatively to those systems. Some other devs complain about games and the Switch not being strong enough, on games which seem to have less going on than KH3.

            But hey, if they can pull it off, I’m sure it’d make fans happy. Most likely if it is ported, I’m saying it’d probably have to make more than minor sacrifices in graphics/framerate.

        • TDude73

          What you have failed to realize is that the Unreal Engine 4 is scalable for Nintendo Switch. Secondly, the system also supports Unreal Engine 4.16.

      • Michael C

        saying switch is powerful is funny….compared to my iphone maybe. The most powerful mobile device.

        • PikaPlayzHD

          Michael C it is powerful, it might not be as powerful as PS4 and Xbox One and that’s down to form factor but powerful nonetheless, have you not seen how good games look on Switch? there’s some really gorgeous games on this system, saying it’s not powerful is funny because it really is, it’s far from weak

          • Kenshin0011

            PS4 and Xbox One were released in 2013, and Switch is considerably less powerful. I love my Switch, and it has great looking games, but that’s the reality of the matter. Current and modern multiplats simply require too much horsepower for Switch to reasonably handle without the games being downgraded too much than is acceptable.

          • Fore

            It has a handheld form-factor with dockability. There have been sacrifices for that, such as it having cartridges with quite the limited space, as well as far less power than the competition. For it’s handheld form-factor, it’s unmatched. But compared to it’s competition, it’s like a school boy with a ruler, compared to a grown man with a baseball bat.

          • PikaPlayzHD

            Fore yes but cartridges also have benefits like they load faster, also this is not the 90s anymore, Switch Cartridges are more like SD Cards

          • Fore

            Doesn’t change the limited space, and doesn’t change the power issue. Your setting yourself up for disappointment, as Reggie said.

          • R.Z.

            Let’s hope it’s a measuring contest then …
            😛

        • Ninty Kad

          AGAIN, ignore this one

      • Fore

        Deltapeng is right, I’m going to have to say your far too optimistic on this one. Especially since I doubt the KH3 team wants to compromise their game that much, just for some extra sales.

        • PikaPlayzHD

          Fore ffs, also they wouldn’t have to compromise much, f off, moron, he’s saying MAYBE, meaning yes it is a possibility, he wouldn’t say maybe if there wasn’t a possibility, idiot
          you ask for third party then when we get chances of third party you’re all like “but Switch is not Powerful enough” I give up with you all, this isn’t exactly battlefront 2 graphics is it, the most compromise they might have to make is maybe some of the effects but that’s it really, Switch is more than capable of rujnning a cartoony game like Kingdom Hearts and it helps that it runs on UE4

          • Fore

            Watch the profanity, this isn’t a sht slinging contest. Just because I’m pouring some realism on your party, doesn’t mean you should harass me.

            Power is far more than graphics, something you thoroughly fail to grasp. Yes graphics is a big part, but more ram, etc, also means that games with more things going on can happen. Look at this: http://nintendoeverything.com/developer-a-plague-tale-innocence-not-coming-to-switch-because-of-the-systems-lack-of-power/ and if that isn’t enough for you, then I’m the one giving up on you having sensibility.

            I will buy third-party. Where people are clamouring for FighterZ, I will buy Xenoverse 2 and I know I’ll enjoy it, because I’ve enjoyed the previous entry on PC. The fact remains that the Switch isn’t powerful compared to the competitors, and that it’ll be the cause of missing games, along with other concerns such as not fitting the game on 1 cartridge. If you can’t accept that, then don’t discuss such things.

  • awng782

    Trying to get push a Switch version of KH3 at the same time as the PS4/XBO veraions would probably push the game’s overall release date to 2020, so I don’t blame him.

    I’m guessing a potential PC port of KH3 would follow the same fate.

    • PikaPlayzHD

      better late than never honestly, he probabyl wants to focus on the PS4/Xbox One versions because putting it on Xbox One alone caused development to take longer, so he probably wants to focus on getting those versions out before working on any other ports like a Switch version or a PC Version which is understand

      • Michael C

        you assume alot about that statement. you must know the engine and if/how it was made to scale for the two main systems.

        • PikaPlayzHD

          Michael C it’s called OPTIMISATION, every game must be optimised for every console those games appear on

      • Jon Turner

        I’d rather he finish the game first THEN port anyway.

  • ««H3©TöR»»

    If it is, I’d wait and see how it compares to other versions, otherwise, I’d just work to get a PS4.

    • awng782

      If you’re expecting graphical parity with the PS4 version, then there’s no need to wait…

      • ««H3©TöR»»

        How dumb do you think I am? I don’t expect it to look as good as the PS4/Xbone version. I’d want to see if the portability would make it worth the graphical downgrade we’d no doubt see in a Switch version.

        • awng782

          Ok cool

  • Vigilante_blade

    Wii U taught us all something: “Better late than never” doesn’t translate into game sales.

    • Dascylus

      Weird, I thought it was Mighty No. 9 that taught us that.

      • theFooFighter

        Mighty no.9 is that 1 time where a delayed game isn’t always a better game

        • delayed games are pretty bad pretty often

          • Dascylus

            There’s usually a reason for delays… and it’s mostly bad coding.

          • i get it – how do you predict when you’re gonna be done with something? there’s feature creep and things don’t work out as planned, bug fixes take longer. complaining about delays is goofy except when they delayed botw to make a switch version

          • Vigilante_blade

            Depends. Sometimes delays are for good reasons, like polish for example. It can be true that feature creep can soemtimes be an issue. At times, especially for new franchises, it may be better to narrow your scope and focus on a few features and make them shine than to just cram mediocre content.

            There can also be delays due to a game’s core concept jus tnot working out and thus having to completely rework it. It cna sometimes translate into a rushed game despite dev time being very long.

            The issue at hand though is that Nintendo verisons of games that come late after their original release on other consoles tend to fail, as fans have already got them on other systems.

          • theFooFighter

            Nah, if that the case every Zelda would be bad

          • skyward sword was bad
            first half of twilight princess was bad
            end of wind waker was bad
            both the ds games were bad

          • Dascylus

            I normally don’t agree with you… but you’re actually right.

          • theFooFighter

            We don’t talk about the DS games

          • LOL

          • Vigilante_blade

            I didn’t mind the end of Wind Waker at all, but I,m inclined to agree on the rest.

          • carlos holguin holguin

            Wind waker was bad? Oh god what hace i read

          • Vigilante_blade

            To be fair, he said “end”, even if I disagree on that specific point.

          • Carlos

            Skyward Sword wasn’t bad.
            Twilight Princess had some good parts, and although one of my least favorite was far from bad.
            End of Wind Waker was not bad, just a little tedious.
            Phantom Hourglass had bad execution but was still good, while Spirit Tracks helped to fix some of the issues and was also good.

          • the first third of skyward sword was cool, then after i played that same part two more times it turned out to be not as good

          • Aline Piroutek

            Uncle Phill is a cancer.

          • Vigilante_blade

            I don’t agree with him on a lot of thing, many things even, but I would never call someone a cancer. I know firsthand how horrible cancer is and I would never compare a man to it unless he was absolutely rotten.

          • Cancer isn’t good at all

          • Aline Piroutek

            A “cancer” person is the same as a troll person nowadays.

          • Vigilante_blade

            You are entitled to your opinions, but I also am entitled to disagree with you on the matter. I find that I wouldn’ tuse the term even to describe people I hate.

          • i hope you enjoy watching someone slip away from you in the ICU as much as you enjoyed making this post

          • Lance Devon

            First half? Dude the whole thing was terribad.

          • i really liked the sky fortress

      • Vigilante_blade

        To be fair, Mighty Number 9 is a mess. The Wii u did not benefit from having it in its library.

        • Aline Piroutek

          Mighty No 15fps is a shame to WiiU.

    • mistnik

      Beside its terrible marketing, the Wii U had no functional appeal. Being able to play while someone else is using the TV? Extremely niche appeal – when people game on home console, you expect them to be using the TV.

      • nah it had really good appeal, it’s the best nintendo console
        everyone’s watching tv and doin something else these days

      • theFooFighter

        It’s a cool idea but the switch just does the exact same idea 10 times better. Play your game on the gamepad sometimes, depending on the game or your distance from the console vs “f*** it, it’s a handheld with a HDMI output”

        • Vigilante_blade

          Not to mention that the Wii U tablet actually hindered performance on its games by drawing power from the main unit through streaming. It was a huge obstacle.

    • Kaine Morrison

      Watchdogs, for exampke

      • R.Z.

        Hey, I bought that !
        Bargain bin but still … 😛

    • True

    • The Wii U was a train wreck though so that isn’t a fair comparison and besides Disgaea 5 was a late port and look how that turned out

      • R.Z.

        Disgaea 5 (complete) is a bit different since it seems to take the place of the portable version they usually released on PSP then VITA.
        It’s kind of like the Ultimate/G/Whatever version of a Monster Hunter game.

        Also I don’t think there has been any official info about D5’s sales, just that info about preorders in the West. All we know is it didn’t do well at all in Japan.

        • Fore

          That’s a shame. I hope it’s done a little better in the West then, if not quite a bit better.

    • Tlink7

      Wii U didn’t have a third-party game of the magnitude of Kingdom Hearts 3. Not to mention KH works really well with the Nintendo audience, what with Squeenix having three entries on Nintendo platforms that sold well.

  • Ninty Kad

    Honestly, the game has been in development hell for soooooooooooooo long, to the point when KH3 has been pair with Half Life 3, it makes sense to just focus on the game coming out on the console that they were made with 1st.

  • theFooFighter

    It’s fine worry about the initial release. Seriously this game was announced when the Wii u was still new just get the ps4 version out for the love of Christ. Worry about ports later just get some version out before I reach 30

    • Ninty Kad

      THANK YOU! People seem to forget that on this site…

      • theFooFighter

        Yeah when it comes to DBZ fighterz it steep or any number of late ports backlash is kinda understandable but for kingdom hearts just Jesus Christ release something at this point

    • Tlink7

      I remember the petition to have KH3 release on the Wii U… haha

  • Stuart

    For this game actually,I agree that they should work hard to release as soon as possible and then,when work is almost done,start with Switch. It is taking so long for its release. Anyway,I would buy THE HECK OUT of this game if it came to Switch.

  • Blanco8x8

    Ubisoft: We’re delaying the Wii U version for the PS/XB versions.

    Square Enix: We’re not going to delay the PS/XB versions for the Switch version.

  • Aline Piroutek

    Here comes again

  • ronin4life

    So that’s a no then.
    Ok. Moving on.

    • Mohammad Yasin

      um no its a yes switch is huge in japan plus its ue4 its as easy as porting a button cuz theres a put on switch button

      • noakai

        If you seriously thinks all it takes is pushing a button you’re seriously delusional. It would require tons of optimization and other stuff before it would be anywhere near playable.

        • PikaPlayzHD

          noakai I heard a dev say it’s very easy but obviously there has to be optimisation, like on every console

  • GoldenTriforce

    N..No.. either hire more people or get someone like Tantalus. At this point just don’t port it if its going to be late

    And lose Japan sales I guess

  • Kaine Morrison

    Release it at the same time as the others!

  • Francisco Avila

    Just pure speculation, I think it’s a business move. If you limit to the two (PS4, X1) you cover the mainstream, once they make their money make a switch version for the double dippers. I think they are gonna use DQXI as a meter.

  • Yolkghost

    I’d prefer a straight up yes or no so I know if I should buy a PS4 for this or end up regretting that purchase because they’ll announce it for Switch within a year.

    • True

    • Fore

      If anything, the regrettable purchase is on the Switch, unless Nintendo IP is valued extremely highly.

      • Yolkghost

        Nah, I don”t think i’ll regret my switch since I do love Nintendo IPs. Most PS4 games just don’t interest me enough to try them out – but Kingdom Hearts is a series I’ve fallen in love with so i’d at least purchase a PS4 to see a part of it end.

        • Fore

          Well, let us hope your Switch will be good enough for SE then.

  • Jon Turner

    Somebody pinch me. I’m in heaven! Tetsuya Nomura is interested in porting this game to Switch! Everybody! Send Tweets to him.

    • Tlink7

      Everybody send e-mails/tweets/letters/faxes/messages-in-bottles to him and Squeenix! Tell them we want this game! 😀

  • awng782

    I’m 98% certain a JRPG like KH3 would sell more on the Switch than on the XBO if the two versions were day-and-date releases.

    At the very least, the Kingdom Hearts port collections should be ported to the XBO and the Switch.

    • Jon Turner

      Absolutely. I 100th this. Wholeheartedly. Hearing that he’s interested and that it’s possible is better than having it ruled out. DO it, Square Enix! You know you want to!

    • Reggie

      I would be down for the first two being ported.

  • Michael C

    Thats nice for no its not coming.

    • Jon Turner

      THAT’S. NOT. WHAT. HE. SAID.

      He said “maybe.” Which means he’s interested. Don’t twist around his words.

      • awng782

        Don’t feed the concern trolls.

        • Jon Turner

          A lot of these trolls have constantly stated that KH3 can’t be done on Switch and that it won’t even come. Well, today Nomura just owned their rears by saying it’s a possibility. I think they deserve a little comeuppance. But you’re right, arguing with trolls IS useless.

          • PikaPlayzHD

            Jon Turner exactly i’m tired of this, people act like Switch isn’t capable enough when it really is

          • Fore

            Trolls is one thing, realism another. Remember Monster Hunter XX? Remember the dude saying “No” with Capcom immedietly moving in to say “No plans”? The door isn’t closed, but it’s not wide-open either. And there’s still the feasibility of it coming to Switch Japan, just not localized.

  • Kenshin0011

    It’s not as easy, as some of you think, to port this just because it’s UE4.

    Did you all see the trailer? It looks gorgeous, especially in the Pixar Toy Story world. They’re already going to have a hard enough time to get the game running well and maintaining its graphical fidelity on base level PS4/Xbone. No way those versions will be more than 900p or 60fps. Switch is even weaker than those consoles, making it a challenge to get the game running well without losing what makes the game (both in looks and gameplay).

    • Velen (Not WoW)

      “They’re already going to have a hard enough time to get the game running
      well and maintaining its graphical fidelity on base level PS4/Xbone.” Are you guessing?

      • Kenshin0011

        Yes I’m speculating, but based on previous major titles this gen that are 900p (or less) on basic PS4 and Xbone.

  • Locky Mavo

    Well that’s complete bs.

    • Ninty Kad

      They want to make sure that it comes out next year. considering that it’s been in development hell for so long, kinda make sense to focus on them

      • Locky Mavo

        That’s fine and all, but “… And so after, perhaps, maybe we can start thinking about other possibilities.” Doesn’t sound very promising to me.

  • awng782

    Just to put things into perspective…

    KH3 was announced when the Wii U was a new console.
    It will (supposedly) be released when the Wii U’s successor is well over a year old.

  • Locky Mavo

    At this point I still think this is just a bs way to say “no”. However if SE get a B-team to bring the KH Remix’s to Switch, then we’re talking.

    • noakai

      I mean, he’s basically said won’t even be considering it until after the game is done and out, which means he probably has no idea at all if it will even be able to run in an acceptable form on the Switch anyway. They haven’t even ported the remasters to Xbox because they’re fine with just the PS4 install base and the PS4 is huge in Japan. I wouldn’t be surprised if it never happened at all since most people will have bought it for the PS4 by the time it would be out for Switch anyway. The amount of double dippers would probably be pretty small.

  • Coonfoot

    I can wait as long as I have to for a Switch version as long as KH3 actually gets friggin’ released on ANY platform as soon as it can. We don’t want production to take even longer than it already has just so they can please Nintendo fans.

  • Fore

    And such seems the fate of Switch, to be given excuses, late ports, or no support at all. Doesn’t even matter what Nintendo does to oblige, the damage seems irreversible.

  • Wanderlei

    Third parties need to release along side all other platforms or not bother.

    • R.Z.

      With the Switch’s partly portable nature there’s a kind of “tolerance” and interest for some late ports, I guess.
      But it shouldn’t be an excuse to systematically consider Switch to be the fifth wheel of the carriage and only consider it when all other matters are settled.

  • Tlink7

    After years of development that started before the Wii U was properly out… I’m not surprised. I don’t blame the man for wanting to focus on what they promised when Squeenix announced the game, because doing otherwise would probably delay an already-late title.

    Now, ahem, everybody with some sort of interest in Kingdom Hearts and a bit available time… go write e-mails to Squeenix, tweet Nomura, poke Nintendo… make your wish for this game to be on the Switch known far and wide 😀

    • Fore

      I’ve interest aplenty, but realism in equal measure. And the realism tells me not to expect the impossible.

      • Tlink7

        Well you know me, realism with a heap of positivity 😛 I’m gonna stay cautiously optimistic. Even if it takes a year for the game to come to Switch, I don’t mind, I don’t have an Xbone or a PS4 so I won’t be playing it any time soon regardless

      • PikaPlayzHD

        Fore but it’s not impossible, it’s a very good possibility but it’s something they want to think about after the game is full released

        • Fore

          Do you think people, in their infinite patience (oh wait) will wait that long? Many will simply go ahead and buy a PS4/Xbox One for this game, which arguably is a better decision, since the PS4 has full third-party support. You don’t see the developers ask them to provide demand, do you?

          Push comes to shove, it depends on whether SE sees the sales to justify the effort of porting and optimization. If they don’t then it simply won’t come to pass.

  • shani

    Cool!
    Since discovering this game series 1 or 2 years ago, I’m got really curious. Sadly it never came out on Wii U nor PC.
    I would definitely buy a Switch version.

  • metalpants

    Don’t you play with my heart strings… *breathing intensifies*

  • Linkavitch Chomofsky

    Nintendo really is back.

    • R.Z.

      They never left, especially if that type of “yeah, maybe later, leave me alone for now” support is what you consider to be back …
      :-/

      • Fore

        Oh but don’t say that too loudly R.Z. Realism is not appreciated in these parts it seems. But seriously, people wish to be hopeful and I do understand that. But after knowing about Monster Hunter XX, and what a perfect fit it is for Switch, only to have silence surround it’s localization, with at first a Capcom representative saying “No” and them immedietly swinging in to “keep the door open” with PR babble, it’s clear to me that only what is announced, regularly reported upon with a release date and such to be the truth of it.

        Only Nintendo’s first-party offering (Which is damn good, but they could use some thirds in there) is what we can be 100% sure of.

      • Linkavitch Chomofsky

        Come on now….it can’t be fun being “meh” about things.

        • R.Z.

          There’s really no reason to be enthusiastic on the third party support as of now.

          • TDude73

            Says the boring parasite.

          • Fore

            True, but I’d say let’s see how Kimishima’s words hold up once 10 million is reached. That and I’ve got a feeling that we will see a direct that has some third-parties in it at some point.

          • R.Z.

            Let’s hope so !
            I can see the situation getting better down the line, it’s (in part) a Nintendo handheld after all. I’d just have wished Nintendo had managed to secure some support for the first year.

          • Fore

            Well, technically there is “some” support, even if they’re not new-releases. I mean the third-parties felt the blow of Wii-U just as much, and there is a myriad of different reasons as to why a game does not make it.

            Let’s make the best of what we know is coming, and hope we’re surprised by what could be coming.

          • Linkavitch Chomofsky

            I enjoy it at any rate.

  • Jacob Groves

    This game for Xbox One version will sells poorly in Japan and some in Western regions. Lol Square Enix waste their time with this game on XB1 and should include Switch to help growth for Kingdom Hearts III sells if Switch include. 🙂

    • awng782

      The XBO version will sell poorly in general.

      Recent Japanese games like FFXV and RE7 have literally sold 3-5X more on PS4 than on Xbox One, even in territories such as the US and the UK where the Xbox brand is quite strong.

  • FireThunder25

    Honestly, even if I am confused by most of the story by this point, I would still hope that the game does come to the Switch eventually. I mean, excluding the relatively recent compilations, some of the games have been on Nintendo’s hardware, so it just makes sense to have that detail pay off to some degree. Perhaps even more so than Xbox One getting the game as the franchise’s first entry on Microsoft’s console.

  • Filipe Santos

    Buy the games from the thirds for Nintendo consoles they say! If we don’t give them support they will not bring their games to Nintendo’s console!

    How a game will sell in a console with 6 months/ one year after release in the other console’s, after that they say the game sells poorly in Nintendo’s console’s! Hahahahaha

  • Kateshi

    Maybe they will release I.5 + II.5 HD Remix and II.8 Final Final Chapter Prologue before a potential release of the third game on Switch.

  • NeptuniasBeard

    Hold up hold up hold up… THERE’S A TOY STORY WORLD!?

  • R.Z.

    “tremendous third party support”
    i’m willing to wait some more because it’s only the first year and there are supply issues etc. but all these logos they showed back in January really turned out to mean very little.

    • Fore

      That is, sadly, true as it can be. Project Octopath has gone silent since the reveal, we saw FromSoftware’s name, but that’s literally it and it’s been equally quiet surrounding that Shin Megami Tensei for Switch.

    • Fore

      In fact, last message about Octopath Traveler was back in February: https://www.facebook.com/sqexasanoteam/ with not so much as a squeak in between.

      • R.Z.

        I’m not that worried about Octopath Traveller and SMT supposedly V.
        They are 2018 games and Nintendo is stubborn about keeping their PR on the short term.
        What annoys me more is DQ XI because there’s really zero info on that, and I sure hope they are not taking the KHIII approach to it …

        • TDude73

          Fore does have a point R.Z. You’re underestimating Nintendo for 0 reasons whatsoever. Furthermore, Nintendo isn’t Dobis PR and your BS isn’t going to save the day. If you were my age, I would rather be patient and just wait. So freaking what if Shin Megami Tensei V and Project Octopath Traveler are 2018 games? We still have no data on the two Nintendo Switch exclusives. You really need to calm yourself the hell down and just wait for once! You can’t win damage control and you freaking know it!

          • R.Z.

            I’m actually saying I’m optimistic about these games because they are 2018 titles and the lack of data doesn’t worry me.

        • Fore

          I can see your worry, but the Switch is still selling nicely as far as I’m aware. Even the small corner of Europe I’m in, the Switch is sold-out on my usual retailer, one of the biggest ones in town.

          I fear there’s always more at play, specifically when it comes to Dragon Quest. http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2017/05/square_enix_silent_on_switch_dragon_quest_xi_due_to_adult_circumstances

  • ben

    In other words… “we can put it on the Switch but sony would lose their minds and pull their marketing deal!”

  • Carly

    It’ll never come to Switch of that I’m sure.

    • TDude73

      Never say never Carlton. Since Square Enix is one of many Japanese third party publishers supporting Nintendo’s hybrid hardware, there is a great to greater chance for Kingdom Hearts III to be ported to the Nintendo Switch.

  • Gamingfan

    man the line up is looking horrible. you’ve got splatoon 2 this month and then mario odyssey near the end of the year. xenoblade 2 will prolly get delayed. after that you’ve got what to look forward to in the near future? a couple of sidescrollers in yoshi and kirby, fire emblem and what else? metroid prime 4 and pokemon are at least a year away.

  • I’m okay with SquEnix not putting their AAA titles on the Switch, but I really want them to put some effort into mid-level projects on the system developed by smaller teams.