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Eurogamer tries to explain what happened with Pokemon Stars

Posted on December 15, 2017 by (@NE_Brian) in News, Switch

Pokemon Stars was once rumored to be in the works for Switch. Eurogamer reported last year that the game would be an expanded version of Pokemon Sun/Moon. Pokemon Stars ultimately did not materialize, and it was only the 3DS that received the new Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon versions last month. Eurogamer now has a report up looking into the situation.

Eurogamer first brings up how Pokemon started to be less of a need as Switch became more and more successful. Zelda and Mario were already planned to launch within the system’s first eight months, so a Pokemon game may have been overkill.

Also mentioned in the piece is that Nintendo wanted to continuing supporting 3DS this year. That’s where Pokemon Ultra Sun and Pokemon Ultra Moon come in. Despite Nintendo’s belief in Switch, having those Ultra titles available on 3DS “ensured there was an established audience for this year’s Pokemon game” as well as “a tentpole launch this winter” on the dedicated handheld.

The final element Eurogamer discusses is that “while Stars had been planned and worked towards while Sun and Moon were in production, it never represented a true leap towards what a Pokemon designed for significantly more powerful hardware might be.” Fans wouldn’t be as enthusiastic about the first Pokemon game on Switch if it was more of an older port as opposed to an entirely brand new title.

Eurogamer claims that “development on Stars switched course around the end of last year.” Additionally, Nintendo’s plans for Stars were in place alongside the development of Pokemon Sun/Moon. Even though Pokemon Stars isn’t happening, the first Pokemon game for Switch will have a longer development cycle, and could make use of HD Pokemon sprites and potentially buddy Pokemon.

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  • Leo Hothands Gil

    Or it never existed. That’s also a possibility.

    • Luke WalkingMoonTree

      Pokémon Stars was one of many rumors Eurogamer covered between late 2016 and early 2017 all of which became reality, it’s clear that their source knew what they were talking about…

      • Jay Hignite

        “All of which became reality” lol what you’re literally on an article about one(of likely many) that can be objectively said at this point to have not came true

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        • Luke WalkingMoonTree

          all of which excluding this one is what I meant to say, still there’s no reason to bash against Eurogamer, they trusted their sources and rightfully so since most of the things they said became reality…

    • Auragar

      It didn’t.

  • Suraimu

    So many excuses just to say that the rumor was never true.

    • Douglas Siano

      This

    • Auragar

      Yeah. I wish they would just own up to it.

  • Blanco8x8

    Am I reading this right? They’re saying that the third version of Sun/Moon for Switch was real?

    • Mark

      Eurogamer’s always said that. They’re the ones who started the Pokemon Stars rumor a year ago.

      • Auragar

        Were they the ones who “star”ted it or did they just compound it because I could’ve sworn it was a rumour even before them but eh maybe not.

    • Auragar

      Yes, because they want to try to save face but yeah.

  • Dakt

    Damage control

    • Auragar

      Poor damage control.*

  • Exy

    All that sure sounds plausibly convenient.

  • Vinicius

    “We were wrong, but we don’t want to admit it.”

    • Auragar

      Yup but I feel just owning up to it would look better but hey gotta trash their image even more.

  • Princess_Eevee9

    Other people already hit the head, but that “Pokémon Stars ” stupidness was just funny to watch unfold. And even moreso seeing the backpedaling.

    • Auragar

      I think it is just sad, like just stop and own up to your lies.

      • Princess_Eevee9

        Exactly.

  • Tlink7

    ”Eurogamer tries to make up a believable excuse for their lying and fails”

    • Auragar

      This.

  • Fredy Rodriguez Ortega

    “Pokemon Star exists but only in our imagination”
    Eurogamer

  • Mark

    Pokémon Stars” was always a garbage-rumor; anyone who half-knows Pokémon could have guessed it. It didn’t make sense based on Game Freak’s business strategy, but people believed it just because they wanted a Pokémon game on Switch. As a games journalist, Tom Philips should have had more journalistic integrity and taken this rumor with a grain of salt before throwing it to the hungry masses, and this article reads like a CYA to make the rumor seem to have more credibility than it actually did.

    • Auragar

      Yeah I tried to tell people but noooooo a news source no matter how dubious is far more reliable than a person on the internet.

  • Vive

    What about Pikmin 4 that according to Eurogamer is basically ready since 2015? What about the 3 Gamecube games at launch for the Switch?

    Do not trust Eurogamer, unless they take rumors from a very reliable source.

    • AquaBat

      Pikmin 4 discussion was actually an interview with Miyamoto. You can’t BS an interview (disregarding the specific questions you ask, that is).
      He himself said that it was very close to completion for Wii U in 2015. However we have no idea what became of that.

      • Radish

        They probably scrapped Pikmin 4 and decided to do it all over from the ground up on Switch.

      • ≈ KobobKC ≈ ᔦꙬᔨ

        He never said it was for Wii U.

        • AquaBat

          You’re right, he didn’t, that was just assumption drummed up at the time, my bad

    • Auragar

      I still think Pikmin 4 was just that stupid 3DS game. But yeah duh of course they aren’t reliable they lost any credibility if they even had any to begin with.

      • awesomeparadise3

        It was confirmed to be a separate project.

        • Auragar

          Where was it confirmed I know people assume it isn’t the same project but I have never seen anything that confirms it as such, I am not opposed to it being a separate thing and it does seem weird Miyamoto would say 4 to mean a crappy spin-off game but I mean considering he said it was close to being done or whatever and it has been quite a while since then I mean eh. If there were proof one way or the other that would be nice.

          • awesomeparadise3
          • Auragar

            I don’t trust anything from Eurogamer but they did mention it was not made by Nintendo while I dont trust them it would be easy enough to look it up if I cared enough. That would be enough proof to say they are I not the same thing. But is Eurogamer the only place that has the statement from Miyamoto mentioning Pikmin 4 because if so then they likely lied again as they are clearly want to do.

  • Barely Able

    Wait A minute. The development course shifted late last year but the game wasn’t needed becUSe Switch was becoming successful? The switch released this year, so their own excuses don’t even line up

    • Radish

      Ahhh, it all makes sense now! The developers must have heard a rumor that the Switch was going to be a huge success in its first year so they canned Pokemon Stars xD

    • Auragar

      Shows how good they are doesn’t it.

  • AJK

    Eurogamer is full of it lol. One of the worse gaming sites around (and that’s saying a lot considering the festering pile that modern games ‘journalism’ is.

  • Michael Richardson

    Yeah, until I see some actual evidence, this just seems like damage control.

    With that said, it would indeed have been overkill if Pokemon released in the first year as well.

    • Auragar

      It is totally 100% damage control, but it fails at it.

  • Justin McQuillen

    HD sprites? What kind of crack is the author smoking here? The past multiple Pokemon games used fully 3D models.

    • Luke WalkingMoonTree

      He’s probably referencing the fact that the Pokémon models used since X/Y are just a downgrade of better HD models that Game Freak realized and were also used in Pokémon GO, I believe they even showed one of them in full quality in a Direct or something, I recall it being Noivern

    • Auragar

      They don’t know what they are talking about and realize nobody actually believes anything they say now so they just don’t care anymore.

  • Prince Ali

    I do think this is precisely what happened. If the Switch had been struggling, they would have definitely released the game on the Switch to boost performance. It would have cemented the Switch as a handheld though. But since the Switch showed strong signs early on, it was scrapped since a port of a 3DS game probably would not be good for the image. This was probably around the time the Pokémon Company gave us the update in the summer.

    • Auragar

      No.

  • Pepperkeet

    Eurogamer aka Digital Foundry “sorry sorry about this bs but hey isn’t our xbox one x coverage the best!”

  • AquaBat

    pfffffffffhahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    Member when people said Eurogamer was trustworthy?
    I member

    • Auragar

      No but they definitely aren’t now.

    • Radish

      Mmmm….memberberries

  • NintendoPSXTheSecond

    “Shoot guys, turned out our baseless claim isn’t true. How do we backpedal?”

    • Auragar

      Poorly from the looks of it.

  • Auragar

    Uh yeah no. They just made the sh*t up and pulled it out of their a*s and now have to explain why their bs didn’t happen to try to save face which ended up failing because it is obvious this is a bunch of bs. So I am sorry Eurocrapper but you have lost any sense of being talked about in a manner which you can be used as a trustworthy source of information. Good job hope that fake bs lie was worth it.

  • Peace Boy

    Loads of people here butthurt that it didn’t happen and now they’re just going to attack Eurogamer’s reasons for it not happening. 😛

    • Auragar

      Uh no. I am fairly sure nobody here is butthurt. They are understandably not falling for Eurogamer’s bs. You sound like you are trying to suck their d*cks though for some reason, are they paying you? I wouldn’t mind getting some scratch myself.

      • Peace Boy

        Paying me? A random person on the internet? They’re not even my main news source, I don’t follow them either.
        “We ain’t butthurt, it’s likely you’re getting paid by them to say this.”
        So yeah… uh, nice comeback there buddy, that sounds exactly like the type of thing a butthurt person would say, attacking someone else who’s clearly pointing out the clear idiocy here.
        Now here’s a meme to trigger you: http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/954/204/820.jpg

        • Auragar

          I don’t have butthurt whatsoever and the only way somebody can defend such clear bs must be getting something from the ones clearly spouting the bs. It is fact that Eurogamer is spouting bs and people are just pointing that out, not butthurt.

          • Peace Boy

            It’s not fact, lol.
            I ain’t wasting my time with you, you can think what you want and stay salty over a game that got cancelled. Good bye and good day to you, sir/madam.

          • Auragar

            I don’t care that it was cancelled, I knew it wasn’t real. I hate companies knowingly lying to us even more so when they try to cover it up in such a poor fashion that even their lies about what happened trip over themselves.

        • Nhat Anh Hoang

          I don’t care about Pokemon but i must agree with him when read this article, sound like a tale they made up by their illusion

    • Radish

      If given the choice between a new game and a 3DS generation game, I don’t think anyone here would prefer the 3DS game on their Switch over the new core game they announced they were working on for Switch. Which would you prefer? Exactly. We’re just tired of websites resorting to clickbait for attention.

      • Peace Boy

        Fair point, but I don’t see how Eurogamer’s reasoning for Pokemon Stars not happening is invalid. People getting mad over that and in denial is stupid.

        • Radish

          Because with that logic anyone can predict anything and come up with a convoluted reason for why their prediction failed to materialize. Like the people who say the world is going to end or the rapture is going to occur, they always find a way to weasel their way out of it.

          The reason people are tired with this clickbait-y form of journalism is because they couldn’t just be responsible and come out and say they got bad info or their source wasn’t properly vetted. We can’t take them seriously when they can’t even take responsibility for their own stupidity. Instead they just make themselves look like the “End of Times” people.

  • awng782

    Eurogamer was the one who accurately leaked everything about the NX (the hybrid approach, detachable controllers, docking station, Nvidia GPU), so I’m not sure where the “Eurogamer is making things up as they go” comments are coming from. They clearly know things.

    • Auragar

      No they clearly don’t. And they didn’t accurately leak jack s*it.

      • awng782
        • Auragar

          What about it?

          • awng782

            It’s pretty clear that Eurogamer knew what the NX was 3 months before the Switch was officially unveiled.

          • Auragar

            Perhaps though it could have also been baseless speculation as everybody and there mother was saying basically the same thing that they were about the NX. A good guess doesn’t mean anything.

          • awng782

            Nobody said the NX was a handheld-console hybrid with detachable controllers, a docking station, and a Nvidia Tegra GPU prior to that Eurogamer leak.

    • amak11

      Couldnt be further from the truth… They more like said “It needs to be x86”

    • awng782

      With that being said, this damage control is surprisingly bad:

      1) Pokémon assets have been in HD since 2012. This is why Pokémon on 3DS don’t run so well; the graphics are too good for the 3DS to handle.

      2) Nintendo doesn’t decide when and to what platform a Pokemon RPG is released; Game Freak does.

    • Well sad Stars won’t come up or maybe in 2018, who knows

      • awng782

        Pokemon Stars is Pokemon Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon.

        Pokemon on Switch will almost certainly be the new Generation 8 Pokemon title. Pokemon Stars on Switch isn’t a thing.

        • Back in my time we use to have Pokemon Yellow, Cristal, Emerald, etc, maybe the rumors wasn’t close but seems Nintendo is porting games, anyhow doesn’t matter at this point much we knew from months we will have a new Pokemon for Switch and eventually 3DS will die.

  • Operative

    Not sure why people are so vehemently in denial that, yes, many of the things that were leaked were legit. Not all of them, of course. But that doesn’t wipe away the fact that the the massive Switch leak was pretty spot on. I figured most of the game information was working with outdated info anyway, which seems to hold up here.

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  • Fuyu

    Like a kid that lied in Kinder and ended up being found out