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Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia sold through 80% of its initial shipment in Japan

Posted on April 30, 2017 by (@NE_Brian) in 3DS, News

Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia launched in Japan on April 20. During its first four days on the market, it sold about 132,000 copies. Media Create and Dengeki now have more information about the game’s performance.

Media Create points out that Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia sold less than half of Fates (304,000 from Birthright, Conquest, and the Special Edition combined), and sales are still not enough if compared to individual Fates SKUs. Therefore, Echoes is thought to be unable to include many of the new users coming from Fire Emblem Fates and Fire Emblem Heroes. However, when compared as a remake, New Mystery of the Emblem which came out for DS in July 2010 sold 136,000 copies in its first week, so it’s able to maintain the veteran fanbase.

As for Dengeki, the site says Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia sold through 80 percent of its initial shipment. The site says the title managed to cut through a favorable start.

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  • Vigilante_blade

    The Fates comparison is extremely unfair. You’re talking about three games pitted against one. Many people double and triple-dipped on that game to get every version. In a sense, Shadows of Valentia did about as well as an individual Fates games.

    • FutureFox

      They ARE treating Fates as one.

      “Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia sold less than half of Fates (304,000 from Birthright, Conquest, and the Special Edition COMBINED)”

      • Vigilante_blade

        However, Fates is THREE separate games. I bought all three games for example. There is only ONE of Echoes. It is expected that Echoes would sell less on that alone. That is hardly an indication that newer players are not interested in Echoes, only that Echoes is one game, and Fates is three games. In other words, Valentia did about as well as Conquest.

        • hi v3.0

          Conquest and Birthright both count as one Fates game… You shouldn’t compare them separately.. Just like Pokemon
          Again most people only got 1 physical version of Fates

          • Vigilante_blade

            They are separate games however, just built on the same engine. One game has a terrible story but good map design (Conquest), while another has a slightly less bad story and terrible map design (Birthright). They are each a self-contained experience, and thus are two games.

          • hi v3.0

            Yes they are 2 games, but when you’re talking about sales then they’re 1 game.
            So about 300k bought Birthright/Conquest combined, let’s say Conquest never existed, that doesn’t mean there’s still gonna be only 150k that will buy Birthright. Probably 250k will buy Birthright instead (I’m counting the other 50k as hardcore collectors and even then I’m overestimating it)

          • Vigilante_blade

            Actually, Birthright only sold marginally better than Conquest (but is an inferior game). It still is two different games that can be bought separately… which many have.

          • hi v3.0

            Most people who got the games sepaately got the games through DLC.. which doesn’t count as one of the 300k

          • Vigilante_blade

            Can you say that for certain? What evidence is there?

          • hi v3.0

            It looks like you really can’t accept the fact that waifu Emblem sold more than a remake of a traditional FE game lol. Like I said, even if Conquest never exists, Birthright would sell around 250k..Not 150k, people are still getting the game called FE Fates if either Conquest or Birthright doesn’t exists. It’s safe to assume to think the majority players would save $20 worth of money for the next 2 versions by purchasing it digitally, so who cares if it’s 2 games that can be bought separately. Meanwhile you can’t accept the truth, you keep telling yourself there’s a possibility that tons of people got both version physically to justify your reason that the comparison is unfair. Deal with the fact that 2x more people purchased Fates than Echoes 😀

          • Vigilante_blade

            Also, a second factor to keep in mind. The entire game got leaked online in Japanese.

          • Stuart

            He is not wrong tho…If someone,like him,bought both versions then Nintendo would count as 2 sales for Fates. Like he said down bellow, different than Pokemon,those 2 games have different plot,missions,etc, so is more likely that a gamer would want to buy both games if he plays one and like it.

          • NeptuniasBeard

            While there are collectors, they do not make up a significant enough portion of sales to really warrant mention. Especielly since Nintendo gave you every reason to NOT want to buy each version seperately

          • hi v3.0

            What percentage of FE Fates players do you think that bought both versions physically?

      • SomeUser

        Are you stupid? He literally just said it’s 3 against 1 smh. That is nowhere near fair.

    • Tlink7

      Might as well have been one game though lol… all three games basically have the same story

      • Vigilante_blade

        Map design though.

        • Tlink7

          I know, but so many maps were reused as well. The already bad story was made worse due to being stretched out over three games. I was rather enjoying it right up till the split. Afterwards it was just ”can I kill Garondorf yet” x 100

          • Vigilante_blade

            Re-purposed rather. The enemy placement, the obstacles, the conditions… and really, the only one that reused a lot was Revelations.

            Conquest had the better map design, with chapters like 10, which was actually a fantastic one. It’s still hardly a Pokémon situation. Even though I agree that three versions was far too much, it’s not exactly a Pokémon situation.

    • AquaBat

      It literally says right in the article “…and sales are still not enough if compared to individual Fates SKUs”, were you not paying attention

      • Vigilante_blade

        And yet it sold more than Conquest, an individual game. Furthermore, people had the opportunity to buy all three, and did.

        • AquaBat

          What? How do you know it sold more than Conquest? It says the sales are still not enough compared individually.

          • Vigilante_blade

            I’ve put the numbers above in a comparable time frame.

          • AquaBat

            Okay, assuming that you got those figures from a valid source, I still don’t see why this matters
            All you’re doing is complaining that a game that is meant to be three units put together is treated as such
            Pokémon does it all the time and no one complains
            Level-5 pulled the same thing with Yokai Watch too, and still no response

          • Vigilante_blade

            Just calling it how it is: inaccurate.

          • AquaBat

            No, it isn’t
            Fire Emblem Fates sold 304k units in total, physically
            This is a fact
            That’s how it is
            If you’re so angry about Echoes being compared to it, take it up with Media Create
            They’re the ones who were comparing it in the first place
            Shouldn’t you be focusing more on the sellthrough rate, which is still excellent regardless of what successes Fates achieved
            And how it sold better than New Mystery of the Emblem, which had a playable Avatar and player-chosen support endings
            A game with fixed (disregarding deaths) endings and no avatar sold better than one with both of those things
            That’s a good thing
            Remakes never sell as well anyway so it’s not like it matters

          • Vigilante_blade

            Doesn’t change the fact that they are three games. WHich again, is a fact.

          • AquaBat

            Thank you for only reading the first three lines of my post and ignoring the rest, we’re done here

          • Vigilante_blade

            I’ve stopped taking this seriously a loooong time ago.

          • AquaBat

            Good to know you are fully acknowledging that your comments mean absolutely nothing, byeeeeee

          • Vigilante_blade

            All I have acknowledged is you ceaselessly wasting my time. I have a life, and you failed to counter any of my arguments.

          • Khaaaaan

            You’re waste your time with someone who believes knowing everything, also when he loose an argument become very defensive.

          • Vigilante_blade

            Basically. I mean, I don’t hate the guy, but I can’t keep year long discussions with every one who disagrees with me.

          • Khaaaaan

            You will find out many here disagree with you, doesn’t mean they are right, but specially AquaBat has issues if you are disagree he can’t accept the fact he’s can be wrong.

    • hi v3.0

      But aren’t they counting physical sales? Most people got 1 version physical and then rest digitally because it’s only half price for the other 2…
      Only a few diehard collectors would buy both Birthright and Conquest in physical format
      So in the end it’s pretty fair

      • Vigilante_blade

        Not exactly. Many bought both physically.

        There is also the late console sales factor. All Fire Emblem games that were sold at the start of a console release sold quite well. All Fire Emblem games that sold at the end of a console’s life cycle sold less than stellar.

    • NeptuniasBeard

      Gonna need a source on that. Especially since Revelation is NEVER counted in sales.

      Collectors don’t make up huge numbers for anything but the most niche products. There likely are people who bought Conquest/Birthright/Collectors. But most consumers aren’t so eager to throw away so much money for the sake of novelty. Not even in Japan

      • Vigilante_blade

        That is hardly a collector issue. If you want both sides of the story, you WILL buy both. Plus, even counting only two versions, it sold better than Conquest.

        • NeptuniasBeard

          Uh, you do remember that you can download the other versions at half the price of the base game right?

          Those aren’t counted as game sales for Nintendo. Those are DLC sales. The numbers above are ONLY for the base games, and ONLY for the physical versions.

          • Vigilante_blade

            And yet people who want to go physical may also buy both. You are assuming that everyone would buy it digital.

          • hi v3.0

            But you are assuming that everyone will get both versions physically… You really think more people would get the second version physically than digitally? Not everyone is a hardcore collector like you

          • Vigilante_blade

            No, I am assuming several are, not all. It still is a false equivalency. One game at a point where the Switch is released versus three at the height of the 3DS popularity is hardly a fair fight.

          • hi v3.0

            Well to me the “several” are only 10-20% of the FE Fates players. 3DS sales in Japan is still going just as strong as pre-Switch days… Switch software sales in Japan isn’t that impressive too other than Zelda, so the release of the Switch didn’t affect too much of 3DS sales

          • ForeVision

            Speaking of affecting sales, what would you think happens with Switch FE: Warriors vs 3DS FE:Warriors?

          • hi v3.0

            Idk about Japan but I’m confident that the Switch version will easily outsell the 3DS version outside of Japan

          • ForeVision

            I would think so too, but why would you think that? (just curious)

          • Vigilante_blade

            I wouldn’t be so certain.

            I perosnally wish they dropped the 3DS altogether and focused on Switch.

      • ForeVision

        I know I’m one of those aforementioned “collectors” (or well, the person to buy the special edition) due to the steelcase and getting all 3 games at once. I’ll be honest though, I’ve not finished revelations completely, and not played birthright at all 😛

        • NeptuniasBeard

          Well you aren’t missing out on Birthright. They don’t call it “Ryoma Emblem” for nothing lol

          • ForeVision

            And here I thought it all revolved around Kamui 😛

  • DeltaPeng

    It sold through 80% of it’s initial shipment so…100% of the shipment would be ~165k. I think that’s pretty good, you can’t expect to sell 304k if the first shipment was about half of that, or maybe I’m missing something?

    • JasonBall

      Uh… yeah… you’re missing something.

    • No, you’re pretty much right.

      That’s pretty much what they expected the game to do, then. And it did well for it.

  • Dozuken

    i havent seen agressive marketing for this game like they did for fates and awakening though

    • Vigilante_blade

      That is true, as a general rule, non-marketed FE games sell very poorly.

    • It is the black sheep of the family in Japan, so I don’t think they were going to try that hard. Sounds like they were quite realistic about it.

  • Pachirisu

    not surprised since it’s a remake of apparently “the worst” fire emblem game.
    that and the fact that there’s no waifu mechanic or whatever might have turned a off a lot of people who were fans of that in recent games.

    This doesn’t look too good for when it comes here though, since FE has a much higher presence in Japan than it does stateside.

    Not saying the sales so far are bad, but they’re not that impressive for a series that quickly rose in popularity.

    Anyways I’m buying it day 1, as I love me some FE even though I’m more of a new school fan and this is more of a classic FE kinda game.

    • “Worst Fire Emblem game” YOU TAKE THAT BACK D:

      • In Japan, it performed the worst and is the least liked.

      • Pachirisu

        Sorry but generally speaking, the general consensus of the game (from what i gathered) was that this was the worst received FE game.

    • TheJuiciest

      What? Most of the sales of the last several games came from overseas though.

    • I think the series has risen in popularity, but the way it has in the West (esp the US) really took them by surprise. Especially since Awakening does hit all those notes that I’ll bet they thought people would like in Japan.

      I can see Echoes still doing well in the US, but I hope they’re being cautious about its performance.

      • Pachirisu

        hopefully it does well, but if it doesn’t I can’t honestly say that would be surprising.

        • Yeah, that exactly sums up my sentiments as well.

  • bdp

    I wouldn’t expect it to sell as well as the modern games since it doesn’t really share any of the modern features other than casual mode. This was only going to appeal to the hardcore fans.

  • Lol, dang. So they really did recognize they were putting out a game that was going to perform poorly in Japan. I’m glad though. This means that they were wise about its potential and recognize its history in the franchise. They weren’t jumping the gun.

    I do wonder though, how much of their deciding to make Echoes was nostalgia and sentimentality from the dev (I forget his name), and maybe trying to test Western audiences. I wish NPD would have figures on sell-through, because I’d love to see them when the game comes out here.

  • Locky Mavo

    Maybe to appease those who say it’s ‘unfair to compare Shadows of Valentia to Fate’s Japanese first week sale, because Fate was “technically” 3 games’ they should compare it to Awakening’s Japanese first week sales? To which Awakening sold 242,600 units, which was also 80% of its initial shipment.

    • Freya

      Actually 2 only since the 3rd wasn’t available at the time.

      • Locky Mavo

        Can’t please everyone, some here say its 3 games. But I think my “solution” is a better option.

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