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[Let’s Talk] The New 2DS XL

Posted on April 29, 2017 by (@NE_Brian) in 3DS, Let's Talk

Probably the biggest piece of Nintendo news this week was the reveal of the New 2DS XL. A new hardware announcement was definitely unexpected – especially another iteration of the 3DS.

But here we are. The 2DS XL exists. It’s like a combination of the New 3DS XL and 2DS, so it makes sense that the $150 price point also falls between the two.

Many of the New 3DS XL features are here. You’re getting the same large screen, power, and built-in NFC support. There’s no stereoscopic 3D support, but the system is lighter.

So what does everyone make of the New 2DS XL? Do you have any interest in it at all? Do you believe it’s smart for Nintendo to be introducing another model of the 3DS? Let us know in the comments below.

Highlights from last week’s topic: Potential SNES Mini games

Byaaah31

The original Star Fox has never been released on the virtual console so that would be a great addition and… How about the finished but unreleased Star Fox 2?!?!?

puchinri

I hope it comes to fruition. I hope they do all the way up to a Gamecube Mini, especially if they intend to release GC VC for the Switch. ♥ Animal Crossing PG, and a new Animal Crossing on one hybrid-portable!? Yes, please!

As for the SNES Mini? Third party galore, ya’ll. Both Breath of Fire games, Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy titles, Bahamut Lagoon (finally officially translated), Gradius 3, Ogre Battle, Mega Man (esp X), Secret of Mana.

I’m not interested in Lufia, but I know they’re cult classics.

For first party: Earthbound (with unaltered localization!), Kirby games, etc.

drearyworlds

Super Mario World
Super Mario All-Stars
Super Mario RPG
Super Mario Kart
Super Metroid
Link to the Past, Star Fox
Final Fantasy 2/3
Mega Man X/X2/X3
F-Zero
Actraiser 1/2
Super R-Type
Gradius III/IV
Chrono Trigger
Earthbound
Donkey Kong Country 1/2/3
Super Ghouls and Ghosts
Super Castlevania IV
Super Punch-Out
Contra III
Secret of Mana

That’d be a solid lineup that would knock it out of the park for me.

ToonAddict1

My guess on the lineup:

1. Actraiser
2. Axelay
3. Breath of Fire
4. Chrono Trigger
5. Contra III
6. Cybernator
7. Demon’s Crest
8. Donkey Kong Country
9. Donkey Kong Country II
10. Earthbound
11. F-Zero
12. Final Fantasy VI
13. Gradius III
14. Kirby’s Dreamland III
15. Kirby Super Star
16. Legend of the Mystical Ninja
17. Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
18. Mega Man X
19. Mega Man X2
20. Pac-Attack
21. Pilotwings
22. Secret of Mana
23. Super Castlevania IV
24. Super Ghouls ‘n’ Ghosts
25. Super Mario Kart
26. Super Mario RPG
27. Super Mario World
28. Super Metroid
29. Super Punch-Out
30. Super Street Fighter II

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  • Good timing. N2DS will be positioned perfectly for a Black Friday door buster deal. This is going to do well for Nintendo.

  • Black Wolf BLADE

    I already own the original 3DS and a New 3DS XL, and that’s enough for me.

  • This can be a easy or hard subject. Let me break it down a little bit.

    If you’re looking to upgrade without having to pay $200 for a N3DS XL, can’t find the smaller N3DS, or really despise the 2DS design. Or don’t really care about the 3D and just want the features of the N3DS. Then the 2DS XL is for you.

    If you’re late in getting a 3DS late in the year and been holding out, then yeah. But if you don’t want pay even $150 for one, then you’re better off getting a 2DS.

    This is just my idea of suggestion. Things can go different ways in decisions. So just go with you think works best for you.

    I still think it’s neat, really. My brother wants one for his birthday. Plus, can you really not like the sleek and sexy look of it. Even makes the N3DS XL look a tad plain. I’m already content with the “Original” 3ds I have. But I might budge in getting one either way.

  • JasonBall

    I think it’s a great design, fixing a few problems of the N3DSXL, such as the C-Stick being in a horrible spot, the cartridge being too accessible and the SD not being accessible enough, and the lid not enclosing the system. But it introduces a couple problems, namely the 3d cameras are on the bottom half, the speakers are facing downward, and the charge port is back to being skewed left. I had thought I’d upgrade it if it were 3d, but now that I realize a few issues, I think even if it were 3d I’d stick to my N3DSXL. Plus it’s neon blue. Blech.

    As for others, I think it’s a great choice. I think the price might be a tad high, if you’re gonna spend 150 you might as well cough up extra 50 for 3d. But if you’re missing an eye or have a brain issue such that 3d is useless, this is great. I have heard good things from my poor friends too.

    As for greater implications, I now fully believe the 3ds line will last into 2018. But it may create confusion for new gamers. They’ll see this is a newer device and may get it over switch, not realizing it’s actually an inferior version of the oldest gaming device on the active development spectrum. It also signals we’re nearing the end of 3d gaming from Nintendo after it’s last gasp in 2015, which is a real shame. I also can’t see them doing vr now, because if they were planning on it they’d keep pushing 3d 3ds games to lead into it, not drop them.

    I’m also a bit sad it may be the last DS iteration. I was happy with the N3DSXL being it, because I see it as the perfect model (besides cstick placement). This one is inferior, but it may make more sense anyways as the swan song because it’s 2d, just like the nds. Whatever. I’m happy with my N3DSXL, will never stop gaming in 3D, and will always be glad to see Nintendo selling things.

  • Aline Piroutek

    For Americans and their “buying power” I think the New 2DS XL won’t affect too much. They already had the super budget New 3DS for $99 last year in the Black Friday. If americans wanted a New 3DS XL for $199, they would already bought it too.
    For us in the Latin America the difference between $200 and $150 is brutal. Because here the pre-sale of the New 2DS is more expensive than a Switch on USA, over than $300.
    Here the difference never is $50.

  • I absolutely love the design of the 2DS XL, it looks super slick compared to the previous 2DS. That being said I don’t think I’d ever consider this, I’ve already got my Majora’s Mask New 3DS XL and my Nintendo Switch, I could see this going over well for great for parents looking for a cheaper alternative for their children.

  • Velen (Not WoW)

    Personally I think it shows that Nintendo is prepared to support the 3DS family in the long run and establishes the fact that the Nintendo Switch is not a handheld, but a Home Console with portability as a primary feature.

    I like how the New 2DS, rather than taking the non-closable design, they decided to have it follow the design standard of most of the DS family of handhelds had have for the past few console gens: the flip top design simply can’t be beat.

  • Killey

    I already own a New 3DS XL, but still want this new model. Hopefully this means that the support for the 3DS family wont die yet, since I want to continue playing Nintendo’s games but I don’t have interest in owning a Switch.

  • TruExtent

    It’s exactly what the 2DS should evolve into. They gave it the tried and true flip design, gave it the “new” processor and other enhancements, heck they even improved on the new3DS by moving the microSD to a more accessible spot and added a cover for the cartridge slot.

    BUT… something doesn’t sit right with me on this. For one thing, why? Why not make the new3DSXL cheaper? Will the be a plain new2DS? Why does Nintendo suck at naming handhelds? But maybe most importantly, why now? We literally just launched the Switch a month ago. And this news is coming off the heels of the NES Classic discontinuation. (I don’t believe it had anything to do with it, but I swear if the new2DSXL production is the reason we lost the NES Classic production, I’m gonna hope someone at NoA gets fired.)

    All around this is confusing to me. I have obtained one of every model of the 3DS line over time and this model just does nothing for me. Perhaps the fact that my 2DS is the transparent blue is the reason I feel conflicted, because that 2DS is freaking beautiful. Who knows? Maybe down the line if it’s cheap, I’ll pick one up to mess with. But I’m sticking with my new3DS for my 3DS needs.

    Side note: why the hell couldn’t Nintendo just call it the 3DS+? So much simpler, easier to get the meaning across (especially to non-gamers), and less characters for me to type on the keyboard.

    • Mark

      1. Why not?
      2. A greater profit margin at minimal risk.
      3. Probably not.
      4. The gaming community has stuck to a naming convention, usually, to specifically describe a console with taglines. Therefore, a “PlayStation 4 PRO VR SLIM,” if it existed, would instantly tell people in the know all of what it does. It confuses the hell out of normal folks, though.
      5. Because Nintendo needs to make a big move to let people know that the DS line isn’t dead, and to get people interested in buying them. To do otherwise would mean it would slowly die off. In this industry, if you’re not growing, you’re dying.
      6. Oo, you got one of the blue Crystal 2DSes? Those really are cool.
      7. 2DS+, maybe; I mean, it is different enough from the 2DS line that you could market it with a different tag. But dropping the ‘new’ and ‘XL’ then kind of misses the processing power, Amiibo capabilities, and extra size that can be hard to attractively advertise on a box.

      • TruExtent

        1. I should have been asking this from the start.
        2. Good point, it’s probably cheaper to make a non 3D screen.
        3. Oh well.
        4. This part meant to be a joke… but I did ramble on about it later. See 7.
        5. Well if they’re going to keep supporting the 3DS like they kept saying they would, this puts that into perspective.
        6. Hells yes I got that Crystal Blue! When it first came out, I was so excited I made a (very stupid) YouTube video and kept rambling about how transparent it was. =P I just wish we got the green transparent one that Japan got. Green is the best color and I would have traded my Crystal Blue in a heartbeat.
        7. What I meant from this line is that the whole “new” line should have been the “+” line from the start. 3DS+, 3DS+ XL, 2DS+ XL. To me the + tells me that it’s a newer model. Meanwhile with other people if they got a new 3DS, I have to ask if it’s a new 3DS, used 3DS, a new “new” 3DS or a used “new” 3DS. Then it’s even less fun trying to explain to someone thinking about get a 3DS about all the models. Everytime, I get “Are you insane or does Nintendo really not know how to name a system?”. It’s annoying and 3DS+ would have solved all those issues from the start.

        I guess my last question in all of this is what’s going to happen with the new3DSXL and original 2DS that’s currently on the market? I hope they don’t discontinue them yet since more models = more options. 2DS for dirt cheap (plus it still comes with Mario Kart), new2DSXL for the best of the 3DS minus the 3D, and new3DSXL for the whole package.

  • Locky Mavo

    Finally got a Switch and loving BotW, MK8D and the rest. I do think it’s a smart idea bringing this out, as much as people say the 3DS should die out now is just silly from a business point of view, considering how successful the 3DS family still is, and the claim of “continuing support for the 3DS family will cannibalise Switch sales” is just stupid. The 3DS will die out when the consumers say so, just like how every console does, whether it’s cut off quickly or allowed to live a long life.
    As for me, I’m highly considering grabbing one, I like that design they’re using for the N2DSXL, looks really nice and at the price point! I mean I’ve hardly used the 3D feature, mostly due the fact I still only have a 3DSXL where the 3D feature is not so great, plus I still have so many DS and 3DS games to finish yet and more to come, plus there’s the data mined M&L: Superstar Saga DX info, a must play and if it’s a N2DSXL launch title, all the more so to grab one!

  • awng781

    I think the New 2DS XL is a pretty good idea. It’s sleek, doesn’t have the (IMO) mostly useless 3D screen yet still has the upgraded “New” 3DS hardware specs, and is very cheap. Casual gamers who will likely be turned off by the Switch’s current $300 price will likely levitate toward this device (or the normal 2DS).

    With that being said, the New 2DS XL is still a 3DS. I already have a New 3DS XL, so I have no interest in this device. Releasing in July 2017 makes this device feel like a GBA Micro – a revision of old hardware released after the launch of new hardware.

  • Vigilante_blade

    I’ve seen a lot of people questioning the validity of this console even existing. However, i find that very short-sighted.

    As someone who is incapable of seeing the 3D effect, if this had come out much earlier, I would have appreciated this console. You save money and get to opt out of a feature you wouldn’t use in the first place. It is a better deal all around. The New 3DS is still around, so if you are willing to pay more for 3D, the option is here. However, this also give a very cheap portable gaming option for newcomers or people on a severe budget.

    In a sense, I had an issue with both the New 3DS and the 2DS. The former had a 3D screen I didn’t need, while the 3DS couldn’t be folded or play certain games. In a sense, the New 2DS would have been the perfect fusion of the two for me.

    Some still believe that this somehow should not exist. As this point, I am left wondering why. Is this a case of “I like 3D, so you shouldn’t be able to opt out of it”? I think that this choice is healthy and a good thing. it is merely a shame that as an early adopter, I wasn’t presented with that possibility.

  • Tlink7

    Is it smart? Yes. People will buy the new console. Will it be a smash-hit? Nope, the 3DS is on its way out and no new iteration can stop that. I do hope Nintendo will continue to advertise the Switch and not go ”WELL, WE ADVERTISED IT AND NOW WE HAVE THIS OTHER THING THAT NEEDS TO SELL SO WE’LL FORGET ABOUT THE SWITCH”. Because the Switch has infinitely more potential than the 2DS XL.

    Personally I will not be buying it ever. I think the colour schemes are ugly and the sharp edges make it look uncomfortable to hold after a while, like the original 3DS. The New 2DS XL also removes something I really love using: the 3D. I’d also like to say that Nintendo gave the worst name to this thing; it is going to confuse soooo many people. Why not something easy like 3DS4?

    • ForeVision

      “sharp edges make it look uncomfortable to hold after a while, like the original 3DS” *shudders* That was my problem with that model exactly. I wonder what my brother is doing with it? (that’s whome I gave it to :P)

      • Tlink7

        I would never give away my original 3DS <3 I love it far too much 😀 I don't ever use it anymore, but it looks pretty and nostalgia is a thing

        • ForeVision

          “nostalgia is a thing” *looks at his steam, 404 hours on a game from 2003* Ohhh yes it is.

  • ForeVision

    The design is slick, and if one does not care for 3D, then it’s the cheaper option to getting at that awe-inspiring 3DS library. What I wonder though, is how will the 2DS XL affect the “only on new 3DS XL” games like Xenoblade Chronicles?

    • SpectralDynamite

      I doubt it’ll affect them at all. I mean… the system is still a New 3DS XL in all but name. The only thing it lacks is stereoscopic 3D. Everything else is there.

      I dunno if you saw me taking to T before, but I’m planning on picking it up myself.

      • ForeVision

        Interesting, I’d say do share your thoughts on the matter.

  • Mark

    I’ve heard plenty of commentators and editorials from news folks – not just here, but also IGN, GamesRadar, Polygon – who’ve been thrilled with Nintendo’s new system because “they’ll be able to combine their console and handheld market under one roof.” I’ve never really believed it. It’s a great idea as a consumer, but makes absolutely no sense at all from Nintendo’s perspective, at least when dealing with launches. Having only one system means that every few years, you get a bad year where nobody buys your stuff because they’re saving up for the new system, or nobody buys your stuff because you only have a 1-5 million install base. Nintendo’s offset launches of hardware and software allow them to avoid that. They’ve been adamant that the Switch is a console first and a portable second, and I think that the reason for that is because they can’t – or won’t – allow the company to be a one-platform company.

    Microsoft and Sony have their non-video game divisions to balance them out if they come out with a lackluster PS3 or XBox One. Nintendo has had their GameBoy / DS line. No way are they ever going to go one-system.

    So for me, the 2DS XL makes perfect sense. It has a much cooler look; not the derpy 2DS XL hunk of plastic, but with a pretty cool look that could possibly be mistaken for a cell phone case. The announcement made it clear that they’re aiming at kids, but OLDER kids – the ten to fourteen range – which is brilliant. If the DS line is going to stay in the game, Nintendo -can’t- market by handheld/console anymore. They have to market by child/adult. The ONLY benefit that the 3DS has for the consumer is that its cheaper and more durable. The 3D itself is a nonseller.

    If what I all said is on the ball (and I’m taking this with a grain of salt) and Nintendo’s not going to abandon the two-platform business model, then I’m really excited for the future. You can’t replace the 3DS line with another dedicated handheld gaming system – you’d be directly competing with the Switch, and the Switch’s hybrid capabilities will outshine it. So either you can make your second line more appealing by making it have a broader use of functions – Nintendo smartphone, which is a NO NO NO STAY AWAY kind of move – or Nintendo starts marketing the Switch as a handheld that can connect to your TV and creates a dedicated console which can compete with the newest Sony/Microsoft offering. Honestly, I have a hard time imagining either, but if you start from the premise that Nintendo will not abandon their two-system business model, there’s not many ways out of this.

  • Bart

    It’s not for me, since I love 3D, it does look quite nice though. But the regular black N3DS is still the best in my opinion, love those multicolored buttons.

  • Reggie

    I don’t really care either way, since I already own a New 3DS XL. But it definitely is a good option for people who want one but don’t want to pay extra for a feature that is now largely obsolete. This was a good decision on their part.

  • R.Z.

    I have been one of those hoping to see the 3DS family give way to Switch as soon as possible, so this announcement didn’t exactly please me.

    [For the record, it’s not so much that I “hate” the 3DS as such, even though I find it hard to come back to it after playing the Switch, it’s that I am worried about third parties not making the jump to Switch as long as the 3DS family is a viable option (because of lower dev costs) and Nintendo not being capable of maintaining a steady stream of strong releases on their new “next gen” console by themselves as was the case with WiiU (I attribute the Switch’s decent first year first party lineup to “reserves” built at the expense of WiiU’s 2016 lineup)]

    I see this new model as a strong signal that Nintendo indeed wants to maintain the 3DS line in the coming years and build on the so far untapped potential of its “New” iterations.
    The way I see it, if the 3DS family was actually on its way out there wouldn’t be a need to upgrade the entry model a.k.a. the 2DS to “New” standards.
    If they bother to make such a move given the very limited existing “NEW” offer I am tempted to think that this offer will be expended enough in the coming years to make it essential.

    It makes a lot of sense to continue the 3DS line from a business standpoint because there is evidence that it can still carry on for a while and the Switch still is too expensive to be put in every hand.
    Unfortunately it will be done at the expense of the Switch’s “handheld potential” (~strong support from japanese third parties), that has been suspiciously downplayed ever since its reveal.

    Of course it’s also possible to see this NEW 2DS as a last stand for the 3DS line much like Game Boy micro was in its time, and the timing is still early on the supposed transition period to make too much of a conclusion about Nintendo’s intentions for the coming years regarding its handheld and hybrid lines (reveal a “Switch mini” by the end of this fiscal year and all my Doom spelling will be made totally irrelevant).

  • paul_cus

    I don’t have a 2DS or a 3DS, so I’ll be getting this.

  • I really like the look of it, and if I weren’t already totally happy with my New 3DS XL (which is ironically no longer new), I might consider it. As it stands though, I think it’d just be redundant to get now.

    Besides, my memory could just be failing me, but didn’t the last iteration of DSi come out very shortly before the 3DS was announced? Makes me suspicious that something else will just be announced soon.