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Nintendo customer service rep says fans can “submit any video-game character” for Smash Bros. Fighter Ballot

Posted on April 4, 2015 by (@NE_Brian) in 3DS, News, Wii U

If comments from a Nintendo customer service representative are anything to go by, fans should be able to submit “any video-game character” for the Smash Bros. Fighter Ballot. That would include third-party characters, which some thought weren’t be an option with a recent Facebook post from Nintendo.

Here’s what the customer service representative wrote to one fan:

Thanks for writing to us. I can certainly understand your interest in if third-party characters are eligible for the Smash Bros. Fighter Ballot. I want to assure you that you are able to submit any video-game character for this ballot. While we are unable to guarantee your suggested character will become a Super Smash Bros. Fighter, rest assured, we do take all feedback into consideration.

I never consider what’s said by a Nintendo customer service representative to be the final word on anything, but this is certainly encouraging!

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  • Parappa

    • D2K

      I like that, but both Nintendrones and Sony ponies won’t have any of that. That’s like having Mario on Sony All-Stars. I would love to see Parappa on Smash myself. Fits right in.

      • ronin4life

        I am of a purist mindset: Nintendo Characters only. 3rd parties maybe when the character is Nintendo related, but I would rather Nintendo Characters be the focus. I feel that is at least half the point of smash in the first place.

        Parappa or any other game character needs a Nintendo presence IMO before he would even begin to make sense.

        • Jack Red

          You’d see Lana from Hyrule Warriors in Smash before you’d see Parappa.

        • D2K

          I’m pretty sure that a CSR does not have precise information on whether or not 3rd party characters would be allowed in Smash (I’m pretty sure that they wouldn’t) you should careful about saying what should or should not be in terms of what direction they take the game because I’m sure there are just as many people who think the exact opposite of what you said.

          That being said, if Nintendo felt the way that you do they wouldn’t be holding a character poll to start with. There is very little Nintendo IP left to pool from which I suspect is behind the reasoning behind all this, but they do have other IP laying around. It’s only logical that they keep the game fresh by allowing 3rd party characters. It also would be a good way for Nintendo to reach out to 3rd parties to rebuild those relationships. What company wouldn’t want their IP on Smash? They’d be foolish to pass up that publicity. Pride has no place in the world of finance. Pride puts you in the red, humility puts you in the black.

          • jimmy

            I’d go third party but from chareaters that have been on a Nintendo system I.e. billy and jimmy, SIMON BELMONT, ryu hyabusa, and so on

          • D2K

            It doesn’t make a difference to me if they have been on a Nintendo system or not. At some point in history NONE of the current 3rd party characters available on Smash were on a Nintendo system. You have to start somewhere. Might as well be Smash.

          • Jack Red

            Not true, Megaman’s first game was on the NES, and Pac-Man had some games on the NES before releasing some on Genesis forwards, the only current third party smash character that wasn’t on a Nintendo console for a while was Sonic, You can’t say Pac-Man was on the Atari 2600, because at that time, The only consoles Nintendo made were the Pong clone console exclusively in Japan of course, and the Game & Watch.

          • D2K

            Yes, Mega-Man’s first game was the NES.

            Pac-Man started in the arcades in 1980, not consoles. Nintendo didn’t even have a HOME console during the 2nd generation which is when the Atari 2600 was out. They had the Color TV Game in 1977(1st generation), and then the Famicom in 1983(3rd generation.)

            Not even sure why you brought the Game and Watch into this discussion because Pac-Man was never on it and it really wasn’t a dedicated console. It was a handheld game series with firmware used in many different configurations. I personally had the Snoopy Game and Watch which was more like a mini arcade cabinet.

            We don’t need to go the route of semantics. The point is that there are characters that are in Smash that did not start off on a Nintendo console in the past, and there will be again whether people what to accept it or not.

          • Jack Red

            I was just saying that other than the Color TV and Game & Watch, Nintendo didn’t have a system out around when Pac-Man first came out.

          • D2K

            Again, I don’t see your point. If you are trying to say that if Nintendo had a console in the 2nd gen then Pac-Man would have been on it, well maybe. But it wasn’t. Is it really that serious to go that far to deal in hypotheticals just to try and prove a point that doesn’t need to be proven?

          • Guest

            it’s not that the third party characters started in a nintendo console, it’s how related to Nintendo they are, for example Pac-man, Megaman and Sonic all have a lot of history with Nintendo, but characters like Master chief or Parappa don’t, and they’re never going to be on a Nintendo console so it just doesn’t make sense.

          • D2K

            So does Banjo. So does Goemon. So does Viewtiful Joe. So does Ryu Hayabusa. SO does Simon Belmont. So does a ton over other 3rd party IP that have had multiple titles on each of Nintendo’s homes and portable consoles over the past 30 years.

            What is your point? It seems like people are going out of their way to make excuses as to why certain IP should or should not be in Smash when it has nothing to do with any historical significance, BUT, the fact that people have made Nintendo IP into idols and feel that only IP THEY deem to be worthy should be included. So people have even SAID as such in this thread.

            Which is ridiculous because none of us own any of those IPs. None of us have any say so in the final decision making process of anything Nintendo does. If Nintendo decides Ryu goes into Smash, he’s going into Smash whether you think he should or not. If Nintendo decides Bayonetta Viewtiful Joe, or Wonder Red should go in, guess what? They are. Don’t like it, too bad.

            I’ve never see a community with a more selfish and self-righteous indignation towards IPs that don’t even belong to them than the Nintendo community. It’s really sad. It’s no wonder why 3rd parties treat the Wii U like the it has Ebola. If that’s the attitude Nintendo fanatics have I wouldn’t want to bother making games on the Wii U either. They complain about 3rd parties abandoning the Wii U, yet when they do bring non-shovelware titles to the Wii U they sit on the shelf. When hey make 3rd party exclusives, they sit on the shelf. When they want to add their IP to Nintendo franchise, they make every excuse under he sun why it shouldn’t happen.

            Stop trying to rationalize what makes sense about what characters go into Smash. It is your opinion and it is mine and neither are the absolute truth, nor will be the determining factor on what character goes where. I can easily accept that and move on. Some of you need to do the same.

          • Guest

            Yah… you’re talking a lot of non-sense, I was just saying that not every 3rd party IP could make it into Smash, my example being Halo, it’s just ridiculous to think that Halo would make it into Smash, then you turned it into some sort of bizarre drama/rant about me being selfish or whatever just for stating the obvious, I can easily just say that you’re kind of nuts and move on, bye weirdo.

          • MagcargoMan

            He was nuts the moment he said “It doesn’t make a difference to me if they have been on a Nintendo system or not.”

          • MagcargoMan

            *Five paragraphs of delusional ranting*

            Go play MUGEN kid.

          • I don’t think they would allow just any third party to be addend in Smash alongside the likes of Mega Man, Sonic and Pac-Man. It is evident that a third party character must have had some sort of past with Nintendo in order to appear in Smash. And on top of that, it must be a big name in the video game industry considering all four third party characters that have appear in Smash are all considered legends in the video game industry.

            To put it shortly, I really don’t think they would or should put third parties that have not appear on Nintendo consoles and have no connection with the company. It would look out of place considering what Smash stands for.

          • MagcargoMan

            “At some point in history NONE of the current 3rd party characters available on Smash were on a Nintendo system. You have to start somewhere. Might as well be Smash.”

            This logic is so flawed. Might as well throw in tv show and movie characters since there was a point in history where the in games on Nintendo.

          • MagcargoMan

            “There is very little Nintendo IP left to pool from”

            – Rythym Heaven
            – Elite Beat Agents/Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan
            – Custom Robo
            – Pilotwings
            – Joy Mecha Fight
            – Splatoon
            – Codename S.T.E.A.M.
            – Advance Wars
            – Golden Sun
            – The Mysterious Murasame Castle
            – Sin and Punishment
            – Endless Ocean
            – Fatal Frame
            – Cubivore

            Come again?

        • Absolutely agree. A Nintendo character or third party character with a strong connection with Nintendo like Professor Layton or Sir Arthur (Ghost N Goblins) or Simon Belmont (Castlevania), etc.

      • MagcargoMan

        >Calling people fanboys for understanding how first-parties work.

    • FunAtParties

      If we’re doing Sony characters I’d like to see Sly Cooper.

  • Operative

    Of all the characters, I’m surprised no one has at least mentioned Sora

    • Guest

      I’ve seen people on Miiverse mentioning Sora, but still I don’t think he has a chance of getting, and frankly for a Kingdom Hearts character I’d rather have Roxas, too bad he’s not the real protagonist of the series.

    • Sora would be the one character addition which would make me seriously angry. There’s so many more iconic and/or Nintendo relevant SE characters they could choose. Even Geno would be better, and I’m usually against him.

  • D2K

    So that definitely is good news for those wanting Banjo. I still want the gang from Mystical Ninja and Little Nemo.

    • Guest

      Little Nemo ? the NES game ? he’s not a video game character, he started out as a book, then the animated movie and the videogame came out, but that game rocks which is something that rarely happens with movie tie-in videogames.

  • Leonel

    Time to put shrek 😀 lol

    I voted for chunky kong he may not be that known but i really liked that characterr and if i had to choose a third party character it would be iether sora pr snake if possible.

    Something i would of really liked is having zael from the last story but that’s unlikely to happen But i would accept dagran too

    • Guest

      Dagran is my fav character from that game, but since Zael is the protagonist he would have to be the rep for that game, but I doubt he would make it in and also I can’t think of what they could to with him to make him feel unique and not like yet another swordfighter like Isaac from golden sun and Roy from Fire Emblem would be, they’re 2 other characters that people have been voting for which would be pretty ”meh” if they were added.

      • I think Isaac would be Robin-like, if anything.

        • HigiCura

          Maybe even Shulk-like, but certainly not unique, he’d be yet another sword fighter.

          • If he was Shulk-like maybe. But Robin is far from “yet another sword fighter”. Isaac’s main gimmick is psynergy, much like Robin’s magic.

      • Leonel

        I’m with you on that one but still would be cool to have either of them and i think i dagran or zael can have unique moves aside from being sword fighters because zael also used a crossbow and lets not forget he had powers. Dagran would of been awesome as well i could see him as an aggressive fighter but a really good fighter and his smash being a transformation and attack it’s surrounding. I was going to zangurak but then again people might mistake him for Ganondorf xD

    • andrewburke20

      My choice aiai from super monkey ball or frogger

  • ronin4life

    Yeah I figured as much. Obviously 3rd party characters aren’t going to be strongly considered, but they certainly wouldn’t dust them off entirely in a loose ballot like this anyway. Also, Notice that they have never said once non video game characters are thought much of or considered.

    If your character vote wasn’t born from a game then fat chance that characters ballot will be taken seriously by any amount at all. Rayman Maybe, Goku never.

  • Exposer

    -“All the weebos, otacos and non gamers on earth bring me your energies…so i can be in smash”
    -Sorry, Goku “Any VIDEOGAME character”.
    -But i have videogames…They are good…I think…
    -Please Understand.
    -Maybe Shenlong could…
    -NO!!!
    – 🙁

  • Jean Michel Langlois

    he Ice climbers are off. I can’t even remember there game so it’s a good thing. But the duo team is an awesome idea. The Best duo team is Dixie and Cranky Kong. A youngster and an old timer.
    The fighting stle could really be a blash

    • Guest

      3DS couldn’t handle them so most likely: nope

    • FunAtParties

      Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

      • Guest

        LOL

    • I wouldn’t count the Ice Climbers out. They could turn the character into a single fighter with the option of choosing between Popo and Nana. Sure, it wouldn’t be the same, but it would still be a unique fighter.

      • Guest

        I don’t know, the moveset for the Ice Climbers is pretty meh, they just have standard hammer attacks for all their regular attacks, and for their specials they just have a dull projectile for their neutral B, a regular jump move for their recovery that doesn’t even do damage, down B is a toned down version of Bowser and Charizard’s fire breath, just ice instead of fire but you can’t even aim this one, and for their side B they just do this spinning attack thingy that’s useless and specially when compared to Luigi’s cyclone, the Ice Climbers have one of the dullest, uncreative and most boring movesets in the Smash series, people complain about Sonic turning into a ball for most of his moves, well the Ice Climbers are even worse… people just want them for the sake of having them back in Smash, the only thing that made them stood out was the whole ”two characters for 1” aspect and their infinite grab bs but now that that’s not possible and they’ve more than replaced them with Rosalina and Duck Hunt there’s really no point in having them back other than people’s inability to deal with character removal, there’s even people asking for pichu and roy, how stupid is that?

        We have Lucina, do we really need another Marth clone? and why have roy when he was only added to melee to promote his upcoming gba game that was never released outside of japan, roy also happens to be one of the least liked Lords among the FE fans so why should he be in and not characters that are actually liked by the FE fans?

        As for Pichu, we all know Pichu is just a useless Pikachu clone, we don’t need him

        A lot of people just can’t deal with characters being removed, the only cut character worth getting back in my opinion was Mewtwo because he’s actually much different in his moveset so he brings something new to Smash, that’s the point of the characters, to bring something new, the Ice Climbers just had their ”duo” aspect and being the reps for the NES era, but there’s now Rosalina, a much better ”duo” character that actually works perfectly plus with no infinite grab bs and Duck Hunt which is a much better, more popular rep for the NES era, plus he also represents the light gun games and the original pre-NES duck hunt for the laser clay shooting system saved Nintendo from a perilous financial situation. So I don’t really qualify Popo and Nana as unique characters, like I said, they have dullest, blandest most boring moveset in Smash Bros.

        • Trust me, I will not defend the Ice Climbers much. I think their moveset was ok. Not great, not crap, just ok. What I like most about them is that they use an element no other character uses in Smash, which is ice. If they they had appeared in SSB4, maybe they would have had some ice effects implemented into their attack animations which would have made them look very unique.

          However, I think is very unfair to say they shouldn’t be in because they have this move that looks like this other move from another character. Because there are dozens of characters which are guilty of that. And is ok, because it is a fighting game and eventually you will run out of fighting moves to give this characters. Punch attacks, kicks, elbow attacks, knee attacks, dropkicks, headbuts, hammer attacks, sword slashes, sword thrust, uppercuts, sweep kicks and the list goes on. Also, as we all know, characters being similar to other characters have never stopped Sakurai from including them.

          As far as Roy and Pichu goes, hell no. We don’t need those back. If Lucina was never introduced maybe Roy would have had a slight chance. But no, there is no way they would put Marth, Roy and Lucina in the same game. No chance in hell. The only veterans I think have a chance to comeback (not counting Mewtwo and Lucas) are Wolf and a single Ice Climber.

          • MagcargoMan

            His argument is packed to the brim with flaws and faulty points. He also uses tonnes of generalisations you could make for most characters.

        • MagcargoMan

          “I don’t know, the moveset for the Ice Climbers is pretty meh, they just have standard hammer attacks for all their regular attacks”

          Link is pretty meh, he just has standard sword attacks for all his regular atatcks.

          “and for their specials they just have a dull projectile for their neutral B”

          Like how A LOT of charcters have projectiles for their neutral B moves?

          “a regular jump move for their recovery that doesn’t even do damage”

          Throwing your partner while attached to a tether cord is “a regular jump”? I guess Mario’s Super Jump Punch is just a regular jump?

          Also, Mewtwo, Duck Hunt Duo, Palutena all have no-damage Up Specials.

          “down B is a toned down version of Bowser and Charizard’s fire breath, just ice instead of fire but you can’t even aim this one”

          Bowser and Charizard can freeze people with Fire Breath? Sweet! I’ll have to try that out next time…

          “and for their side B they just do this spinning attack thingy that’s useless and specially when compared to Luigi’s cyclone”

          “the Ice Climbers have one of the dullest, uncreative and most boring movesets in the Smash series”

          No, that would be R.O.B.

          Uncreative? Tell more about the various other ice-utilising characters in the roster? Oh wait…

          “people complain about Sonic turning into a ball for most of his moves, well the Ice Climbers are even worse…”

          So characters who have no specials that are awfully similar are worse than a character that has two specials that are charging into a ball, and the only difference is one lets you continue to charge on the spot?

          people just want them for the sake of having them back in Smash”

          “I hate this character, so anything I saw about why their fans like them is totally true!”

          “the only thing that made them stood out was the whole ”two characters for 1” aspect”

          The only thing that stands out about Pikachu is that he has electric attacks. The only thing that stands out about Mr Game and Watch is that he’s 2D. The only thing that stands out about Mega Man is the majority of his moves being projectiles. The only thing that stands out about… etc, etc, repeat stupid argument ad nauseam.

          By your own logic Rosalina only stands out for having a Luma partner and Duck Hunt only stands out for representing the Zapper.

          “and their infinite grab bs”

          So Pikachu/Fox/Meta Knight/Rosalina, Only stand out for being the best characters in Melee/Brawl/Smash 4 respectively?

          but now that that’s not possible and they’ve more than replaced them with Rosalina”

          Because having a second mini-partner that can attack from a distance is significantly different form Rosalina is totally the same as having two characters who have the same arsenal teaming up in the same place for double-power and unique strategies from using their desynchronisation properties, amirite guyz?

          “and Duck Hunt”

          “Hey guys! If two characters appeared on the NES and haven’t appeared since, one can easily be a replacement for another since they totally look, feel and play the same!”

          “there’s really no point in having them back other than people’s inability to deal with character removal”

          Says you. Do you enjoy being objectively wrong?

          “there’s even people asking for pichu and roy, how stupid is that?”

          How is asking for a unique character even comparable to asking for lame clones. Try again.

          Nothing you have said here is valid. You have an obvious bias and are using heavily-flawed arguments to to try and justify unique characters being cut. Make a valid argument or don’t comment at all.

          • Guest

            LOL I figured someone like you would come, sorry but you’re the one with obvious bias, you even tried to imply that I didn’t know their down-B could freeze people when I specifically said ”ice instead of fire” and saying their up special isn’t regular or pretty standard just because of its animation, lol you can’t even use it if your partner isn’t near, how’s that for useless?
            And I said DULL projectile, of course I know a lot of characters have projectiles and they’re all better, see how you’re the one that ”uses tonnes of generalisations” and I don’t? seems like someone else is the one making faulty points and flawed arguments around here 😉
            ROB having the most boring moveset? lol sorry but your whole comment just died there, ROB’s neutral B is the only projectile of its kind, I could try and explain you about ROB’s moveset and why I didn’t generalize my comments but you did, oh god I could go on but I’m not even going to point out all the stupidity in your comment because you’re obviously an ice climber obsessed fanboy so it’s useless to even try to have a conversation with you and I’ve got things to do, so bye.

          • MagcargoMan

            “LOL I figured someone like you would come”

            Because you knew how flawed and grossly wrong your argument was?

            “sorry but you’re the one with obvious bias”

            You deny being biased when you go around using flawed arguments, hypocritical points and generalisations. Yet apparently I have an obvious bias simply for calling out your BS? That’s pretty rich kid.

            “you even tried to imply that I didn’t know their down-B could freeze people when I specifically said ”ice instead of fire”

            No, you dolt. I was making a point about how the difference isn’t simply cosmetic.

            “and saying their up special isn’t regular or pretty standard just because of its animation, lol”

            Like how your precious Duck Hunt’s Smash Attacks aren’t regular because they have crosshairs for animations.

            “lol you can’t even use it if your partner isn’t near, how’s that for useless?”

            You can’t use Rosalina’s Side Special without Luma and most of Olimar’s moveset without Pikmin. How’s that for useless?

            “And I said DULL projectile”

            Plenty of characters have dull projectiles. Any other hypocritical points you want to make?

            ” see how you’re the one that ”uses tonnes of generalisations” and I don’t? seems like someone else is the one making faulty points and flawed arguments around here ;)”

            Honest question: Are you mentally handicapped? You make bizarre leaps and logic and little coherent reasoning in anything you say.

            “ROB’s neutral B is the only projectile of its kind”

            Yeah, definitely no other laser attacks in the game. *cough* Fox and Falco *cough*

            “I could try and explain you about ROB’s moveset”

            But you won’t, because you know it’s boring and hence talking about his “rivetting” moveset would only show how “exciting” ROB truly is.

            “and why I didn’t generalize my comments but you did”

            That’s some damn strong denial right there. And you’re pretty stupid if you thought that bit where I said stuff about characters like Rosalina and Mega Man was serious when I was simply showing you what you were doing by applying it other characters instead.

            “oh god I could go on but I’m not even going to point out all the stupidity in your comment”

            Because unlike your comment, there isn’t any in mine and you know it.

            “because you’re obviously an ice climber obsessed fanboy”

            “Somebody called out my hypocritical arguments about a character. They must be that character’s fanboy! HURR DURR!”

            By your own logic, you’re an obvious Rosalina, Duck Hunt Duo and ROB fanboy.

            “so it’s useless to even try to have a conversation with you”

            Because I introduce foreign concepts to you such as logic and valid arguments? Is making intelligent points to complex for your faulty brain to process?

            “and I’ve got things to do, so bye.”

            Like eating lead paint, banging your head against a wall, and all the other activities you did as a child to make you this retarded?

            I’d say I just schooled you, but that would be insensitive to say since your lack of intelligence suggests you never got the opportunity to go to school. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out, chump.

          • Guest

            I’m 29 years old, graduated in business management and international commerce, currently working for a korean robotics company, I travel a lot to san francisco, hong kong and korea because we have business relationships and common sponsorships with google and nintendo of korea, so I did go to school and I’m not a kid, but me and my wife are thinking about starting a family in a couple of years.

            Now, I just want to say that if you can actually analyze your comment you’ll see you’re the one acting dumb and retarded, like when you said: ”Because unlike your comment, there isn’t any in mine and you know it.”
            seriously? you’re basically using ”I’m rubber and you’re glue” and you say I’m the kid here?
            Again, I’m not going to point out all the stupidity in your comment when you’re obviously ignoring facts to try to back up your arguments, like trying to discredit my statement of ROB’s neutral-B being unique by saying it’s just a laser like fox and falco’s, because sure… fox and falco’s blasters can totally bounce off surfaces… flawless logic you have there, anyways I just want to give you a tip, try to work on that s****y attitude of yours, it doesn’t lead you anywhere in life.

          • MagcargoMan

            “”Because unlike your comment, there isn’t any in mine and you know it.”

            seriously? you’re basically using ”I’m rubber and you’re glue” and you say I’m the kid here?”

            I love how you’re completely oblivious to how you’ve done these things first with sentences like “sorry but you’re the one with obvious bias” and “seems like someone else is the one making faulty points and flawed arguments around here ;)”

            “you’ll see you’re the one acting dumb and retarded,”
            “I just want to give you a tip, try to work on that s****y attitude of yours, it doesn’t lead you anywhere in life.”

            That’s pretty rich given the absolute childishness and double-standard packed arguments of your other comments.

            Of course you’d never admit that though. Your immature to say simply because you don’t like them. Pure bias.

            And despite how much you are in denial about making generalisations, even another user besides me called you out on it.

    • MagcargoMan

      “but I can’t even remember their game so it’s a good thing.”

      I can’t remember Star Fox, so it’d be good if they cut Fox and Falco…

      • Jean Michel Langlois

        You must be quite young to forget Star Fox. The last title, real title, is only 8 year ago. The ice climbers was 30 years ago. Star Fox had game when super smash went out on the N64 and the Gamecube. Hell he is even part of the original 10. But this serie was without a game for long enough to justified the cut of Wolf.

        I would have vote again Pit if Nintendo wouldn’t have made Kid Icarus Uprising. The game was good and give a fresh look to this old forgotten character. Because if we are going to pick any old boring character, bring the Paper Boy to super smash.

        • MagcargoMan

          *FACEPALM*

          I do remember Star Fox. The entire point of that reply was to show how utterly stupid the reasoning “I can’t remember this character’s game so it’s good they were cut” is.

          • Jean Michel Langlois

            yeah i sure you do little man.

          • Jean Michel Langlois

            and leave the thinking to others, i’m pretty sure it hurt you a lot right now. You should consider taking a break, take a well deserve nap

          • MagcargoMan

            Just because you hurt yourself trying to think, doesn’t mean every person you talk to does. Although you probably make other people’s heads hurt trying to comprehend your idiotic ramblings.

          • MagcargoMan

            You’re truly an idiot. Someone who can’t accept he failed understanding an analogy whose entire point to prove why your petty reasoning was dumb. Have fun is your ignorant denial.

          • Jean Michel Langlois

            I forgot I much I loved internet. Morons having opinions who are sure they are great because they can type it. Your analogy was broken at first. You acknowledge that you knew the characters from star fox, but not the ice climbers. But don’t worry, take another nap and everything will be great after.

            And for your stupid hammering duo they will never exist ever again.

          • MagcargoMan

            ” Morons having opinions who are sure they are great because they can type it.”

            Like what you are doing just now you egotistical imbecile?

            You’re still unable to properly understand what I’ve said. I know the Ice Climbers. Never said I didn’t. You must be a moron if you think I said anywhere that I didn’t.

            “And for your stupid hammering duo they will never exist ever again.”

            Like how all the brain cells you lost making idiot responses like this will never grow back? I bet you thought Mewtwo and Lucas would never return too.

            And actually that statement is objectively wrong. Sakurai only cut them because he wanted the roster to be the same in both versions and the 3DS couldn’t handle them. So when the next Smash comes along and the next generation portable console with better tech is released they will be back. I’ll come back here and laugh on that day, but you’ll chicken out like the coward you are, won’t you?

          • Jean Michel Langlois

            don’t worry one day you will make a good analogy. You will share it everywhere and people will say: and you know what he is right. Even your mother will be proud of you. But not today little man, not today, because you have failed and the emptyness of silence is your best refuge.

          • MagcargoMan

            You’re trying far too hard kid. It’s painfully obvious how you think you’re being clever right now. How you come back when your IQ is higher than 70 so you can make a response that is even remotely meaningful?

  • Alex Jones

    LIGHTNING WILL RETURNdundundunnn!!!!

  • Ser2k2
    • Joseph Klemm

      Interestingly enough, Shantae is one of the third-party characters that’s actually receiving a push for “possible Smash Bros. character” by its parent company (in this case, WayForward).

  • paidenthusiast

    Bayonetta, Professor Layton, Shantae, Ivan (Devil’s Third), Rodea, Rayman, Banjo and Chase McCain are the only 3rd party characters that are deemed worthy to be in Smash but no……and I mean NO SNAKE until Konami gets that stick from out of their a**es and start supporting Nintendo

    • jimmy

      Naw bro, you got to throw in Simon Belmont

      • paidenthusiast

        I would but Konami has not supported Nintendo home consoles since the Gamecube

        • Guest

          Not to mention Konami just flat-out killed the Castlevania franchise with that lords of shadow BS

        • D2K

          They have not brought AAA titles to Nintendo home consoles since the Cube. Just shovelware and tons of it.

          • Mostly yeah, except for Castlevania Rebirth which was great.

          • Guest

            Castlevania judgment for the Wii…. my god was that game bad…

          • TalesOfBS

            Not bad, it is just that it was not a Castlevania game.

          • Guest

            eh… not even as a fighting game was it good… literally the only good thing of that game was the music… the last great castlevania game was Order of Ecclesia for the DS, then that Lords of Shadow BS came and killed the series… really sad for me since I’ve been playing Castlevania since the first game for the NES, but at least OoE was a good way to end the series, rest in peace Castlevania, you were a great and important part of my childhood <3

          • paidenthusiast

            Yeah I agree and I actually meant to say ” has not supported Nintendo with any good games since the Gamecube ” but I changed it so all is good lol

        • jimmy

          Castlevania don’t count, they released all the gb advance games

      • David Junco

        Simon Belmont from Captain N yes please

    • Guest

      *BAYONETTA SHOULD TOTALLY BE IN SMASH!!! SHE WOULD BE PERFECT (as long as there’s no nudity of course…)
      Bayonetta 2 got mostly perfect scores, it’s considered by many to be the best game of the year and one of the best games of all time and it’s quite obviously the best Action Hack n’ Slash ever! after having Nintendo costumes in her games it’d be fitting and awesome to see her now along with the other Nintendo characters in Smash, she would be a quite unique character, she’d bring something new to smash, there’s an endless potential for his moveset, her games also have a great soundtrack, there’s a lot of fantastic options to have for her stage (if there are new stages added which I bet there’ll be) all of them which would be a vastly different setting from the other stages already in Smash, not to mention the sweet deal of adding a remastered Bayonetta 1 for free along with Bayonetta 2, which is a Nintendo exclusive, having her in Smash would certainly be a good way to promote this exclusiveness and get more people to look at one of the best games of all time <3

      *Professor Layton deserves a spot for his amazing (and popular) games but I just can't picture him as a character and I don't see it happening tbh

      *Shantae is also practically a nintendo character so she would be welcomed but I wouldn't really be hyped, shantae games are fun but she doesn't really have much impact

      *While I'm super hyped for Devil´s Third I can't picture Ivan in Smash but he would be cool, and if he used his melee weapons like Katanas, tomahawks, machetes and clubs then nobody would even remember snake from brawl

      *Ubi sucks, rayman origins and legends were good games but I don't think rayman deserves the spot until ubi stops being so lame, ac:unity is the worst piece of s**t game released in 2014

      *banjo would be cool but since we're never getting banjo games back on nintendo unless microsoft sells the ip then why add them to smash? also I'd hate if they used their new nuts & bolts design… ugh

      *is chase mccain the lego guy from lego city? then no, he's a lego character, adding him to smash would seem like blatant advertising for legos and it would also be seen wrongly by most people, like: omg wtf there are legos as characters in smash?

      *about snake I agree, he's mostly a sony character so he doesn't quite fit in smash, he was only added because kojima wanted him to but now that kojima is leaving konami and mgs5 the phantom pain is going to be the last metal gear game made by kojima why have him in smash? people only want him because he was in brawl, like they want roy just because he was in melee, roy was only in melee to promote his upcoming game which has never been released outside of japan and roy also happens to be one of the least popular lords among fire emblem fans, he's clearly not a right choice to represent the fire emblem series.
      and metal gear is not a right choice for smash because let's take a look at their history on nintendo:
      there have only been 5 metal gear games on nintendo consoles:
      metal gear: super lame port of the original msx game which is nothing like the original
      snake's revenge: the exact same thing as above
      ghost babel: ok but non-canon
      twin snakes: good remake of the first metal gear solid for ps1, it has both it's pros and cons when compared to the original so it's not a very good remake
      metal gear 3D: downgraded port of mgs3 for the ps2, not to mention that nobody cares about it because sony consoles got the legacy collection which includes mgs3 in HD among others
      so snake doesn't deserve a spot in smash.

    • Guest

      Oh god please let Bayonetta be included in Smash Bros <3
      http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2014/290/f/1/bayonetta_2_by_kr0npr1nz-d838k72.jpg

  • Maxo

    Simon Belmont, bayonetta, isaac, black shadow, travis touchdown and bomberman, hopefully one of them will make it

    • Guest

      black shadow would serve to get ganon’s moveset so ganon got a new wizard-like moveset, but since the game is already out that won’t happen :/
      travis touchdown would be really cool to have with shinobu as an assist but the most perfect choice for a smash character has to be bayonetta

  • mofi
  • thecrimsonbolt

    I still say Jack Frost would make a great addition:
    -Adorable mascot character (ATLUS)
    -All of the SMT mainline games except one and countless spin-offs have been published in a Nintendo cons
    -Magical Ice powers make for a decent Ice Climbers substitute
    -His series is about to get a crossover with a major Nintendo IP
    -HEE-HO

    • AquaBat

      Three of the Shin Megami Tensei series were originally released on non-Nintendo platforms (five counting the 20XX cellphone games), and only two Shin Megami Tensei games on Nintendo platforms were even released in America. No one but fans of the series will know what Jack Frost is.

      • thecrimsonbolt

        Yeah, I also considered his popularity since only hardcore fans would recognize him and just thinking selfishly since I really like him. Although, what’s his status in Japan? I’m guessing he’s much more popular there, and let’s face it, Japan’s opinions usually weigh more here.

    • Guest

      Nah, but they should totally remake Jack Bros. (virtual boy) for the 3DS

    • MagcargoMan

      Nobody will ever truly make up for no Ice Climbers.

  • Exodecai

    Expecting 3rd Party Character? TOO BAD! Waluigi Time!

    • Locky Mavo

      Weh eh eh!

  • NintendoPSXTheSecond

    Like Ronin says, Nintendo character would have the easiest time and it’s better not to waste a vote.
    As for me, I’m still sticking with Inkling, Takamaru and Elma.
    If I had to choose third party though, Bayonetta or Shovel Knight.

    • Guest

      Inkling would be perfect, it would promote Splatoon, there’s already Inkling amiibos coming, Splatoon has great music, the Inklings would actually bring something new as their moveset would be unlike any other character, with all their different weapons, the nature of their game and of their characters (turning into squids and splatting ink) they have lots of potential for their moveset and they already have their alternate colors (orange girl, blue girl, green girl, purple girl, then the boys, 8 colors)

      Takamaru would be great too, in fact I wanted him to be added to this game but he’s already an assist trophy so I’m guessing it’s not possible, a murasame castle stage would have been great because there’s not an asian/japanese-themed stage in the game and every fighting game needs a boxer and a samurai, we already got the boxer but we still need the samurai

      Elma would be cool, more female representation, promoting Xenoblade Chronicles X which currently looks like the best RPG ever, and the more Xenoblade that gets into Smash the better, the original Xenoblade for Wii quickly made Xenoblade into one of my favorite IPs from Nintendo, in fact I consider Xenoblade for the Wii the best RPG ever and it’s soundtrack the best videogame soundtrack ever (I’d say Smash Wii U has the best soundtrack but that would be cheating since Smash has the best songs from a lot of the best games)

      for Third party yes, just yes, BAYONETTA, bayonetta is the perfect choice in my opinion, it would be so cool to see Samus and Bayo together, the two toughest girls in gaming, Bayonetta already got Nintendo costumes in Bayonetta 2 and in the remastered version of Bayonetta 1 which was released for free along with Bayonetta 2 exclusively for Nintendo Wii U, it’s fitting (and awesome) to have her now along with the other Nintendo characters, she has an endless potential for movesets, stages, music, she’s just perfect and it’s a great way to promote Bayonetta 2 which is considered by many as the best game of the year and one of the best games of all time, it’s also easily the best Action Hack n’ Slash ever.

      about Shovel knight, the whole 8-bit indie games thing is just a trend, and while shovel knight is one of the best exponents of this trend I see shovel knight as a game that people won’t remember in the future unless they make it into a series, also he would be pretty uninteresting for a moveset…

      http://25.media.tumblr.com/ba5cda875b2aabb92de093386a7fe426/tumblr_mo8j9umzk61r4ftabo1_500.gif

  • lucaslink2

    Good, cause I voted for bayonetta.

  • TalesOfBS

    I bet Daisy will have only one vote, from herself.

    • Locky Mavo

      Sakurai should show some justice and just make Peach’s Daisy color scheme actually Dasiy, keep the moves the same, but maybe change the look of them for designs sake. I mean look at Wii Fit Trainer, Robin and Bower Jr. even Wario in Brawl had the idea.

      • Guest

        But Daisy isn’t really an important Mario character, she only appears in the spin-offs just like Waluigi, also it wouldn’t make sense at all to have Daisy use Peach’s moves, Daisy’s only ”powers” we’ve seen are flowers and the shield hearts she shares with Peach in MK:DD, Daisy has never used an umbrella, she doesn’t have Peach’s float ability, she’s never plucked vegetables from the ground and it wouldn’t make sense for her to have Toad as his neutral B because she’s not the princess of the mushroom kingdom, she can’t toads as minions, and Daisy is more of a tomboy so she would just look out of character with Peach’s walking animation.

        • Locky Mavo

          Which is why I said change some of the designs, as in her attacks to suit her. Sure Dasiy is different to Peach personality wise, but I don’t believe she’s as different to say Rosalina, to warrant her own character. It’d be nice, plus it’d stop people whining about another clone character.

  • nWo4liFe

    Bayonetta. It could be Sakurai’s biggest challenge yet.

    • Guest

      she literally has endless potential for movesets, music and a stage, and she’s also the perfect choice with the remastered bayonetta 1 being released for free with Bayonetta 2, Bayonetta 2 receiving mostly perfect scores, being considered by many people as the best game of the year and one of the best games of all time and also for being easily the best Action Hack n’ Slash ever.

    • mofi

      If they take the Zero Suit Samus skeleton/character model and start from there then it could go ” relatively” smooth. If you´re talking about design elements/effects etc that´s indeed different^^

      • nWo4liFe

        Bayonetta is nearly impossible, and not because of her nudity.. She’s too do different, and I’d love to see how Sakurai could pull her off. Platinum’s relationship with Nintendo is a huge plus too.

  • ZobmieRules .

    QUOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTE

    • BrambleBro

      THANK YOU

  • They should definitely set some rules. Just so people suggest characters with more probability of appearing.

  • Guest
  • Drybonekoopa85

    My top 3 characters would have to be
    1. Simon Belmont
    2. Bayonetta
    3. Wonder Red from Wonderful 101.

  • Zombie_Andrew

    Bayonetta!

  • Guest
  • Time to go vote for Bayonetta! 😛

  • Time to go vote for Bayonetta! 😛

  • andrewburke20

    What about frogger or aiai from super monkey ball or samba from samba de amigo or a character from street fighter or streets of rage or someone from snk game or shadow or banjo or conker.

    • Guest

      Sakurai has already stated he doesn’t like the idea of having characters that come from a fighting game.

  • Terra Nova

    ALEX KIDD

  • Hexodious

    I doubt Nintendo would revive an already dead franchise or even a character that’s been irrelevant for over a decade, but I voted for Kai Hiwatari from Beyblade G-Revolution (Gameboy Advance) who knows what’ll happen? Never shooting your target is always a miss. (You don’t say?)

    Jack Frost or any other Megaten character will be fine also.

    http://25.media.tumblr.com/4272ab6a8643f892e44e5bb4dc3853b1/tumblr_mj3hgjhJmi1s7s9lko1_500.gif

    • Guest

      He’s not a videogame character

  • Anthony Chowanec

    Mike Jones from startropics and Geno.

    • Guest

      Mike Jones would be cool with a stage that transitions between the different ages present in Startropics 2, also the dungeon themes would be awesome, to be honest I like Startropics 1 and 2 way more than Zelda 1 and 2.
      But sadly I doubt he has a chance, he’s been forgotten by Nintendo.

  • Adrian Brown

    My top 3: Shovel Knight, Bayonetta, Shantae. #ShovelknightforSmash

    • Guest

      Shovel knigh’s moveset:
      up B – shovel
      side B – shovel
      neutral B – shovel
      down B – shovel
      final smash – super final golden shovel

      • Adrian Brown

        It’s amazing, isn’t it?

  • Guest

    Bayonetta for Smash! you better run, you better hide, she’s coming for a fight and tomorrow is hers!
    https://youtu.be/FEbfgbjgC6g

  • Blake Carlson

    Well of course you can submit any character. That doesn’t mean there’s any chance of that character being added into smash. You think if enough people submit him, Master Chief will be added in?

    • Jack Red

      Then why even say you can submit any video game character?

      • Blake Carlson

        Because you *can* submit any character. Hell, I could submit dickbutt if I wanted to, it’s not like the submission form is gonna say “sorry, that’s not a game character”. But they’re not gonna take a second glance at it. Same as if you submit non-Nintendo-related characters.
        In all likelihood, Nintendo already has a list of the characters that they’re willing to put in the game, and the one that gets the most votes will be added.

      • Guest

        You can but there’s obviously a limit, like Blake says, no matter how much you vote for Master Chief it’s obvious that he’s never going to get added.

        • Jack Red

          Then wouldn’t it make more sense to include a character that’s appeared on a Nintendo platform?

  • Mr. Oshawott

    Voted for Princess Daisy. 🙂

  • Locky Mavo

    Think Hideki Kamiya is gonna get pissed off again for people continuously asking for Bayonetta again? (Though he did say he’d been honored if Nintendo asked him, but was pissed at western fans for continuously asking).

    • Guest

      He’d love to have Bayonetta in Smash Bros. but he gets pissed off at people asking him for her inclusion in Smash over twitter when it’s obviously not up to him to add her, it’s up to Sakurai if she gets in or not.

    • Pan Naan

      Well he still tweets stuff like: “Stupid insects look at my twilog before asking!!”

  • MagcargoMan

    Despite this correction, I still maintain what I said on the other article: https://disqus.com/home/discussion/nintendoeverything/smash_bros_fighter_ballot_may_only_be_limited_to_nintendo_characters/#comment-1945798375

    Smash comes once every console generation. Nintendo characters should have priority in a game that celebrates NINTENDO.

  • BalmungX

    My Top 3: Wonder Red,Shovel Knight and Bayonetta

  • andrewburke20

    I put in my vote frogger was my pick

  • andrewburke20

    I put in my vpte frogger was my pick

  • Joseph Klemm

    In terms of my ideas for possible future Smash Bros. DLC, here’s a combination of my ideas and ones that I support (it’s a short list for now, but I’m sure I’ll have more ideas as I think about it some more):

    NINTENDO:

    -Female Inkling (Splatoon)
    -A wrestler character (either the wrestler from Rhythm Heaven or either Star Man or The Amazon from Pro Wrestling)

    THIRD-PARTY:
    -Shantae
    -Agumon (Digimon)

  • Locky Mavo

    My:

    Top 5 1st party
    1. Inkling (Splatoon)
    2. Isaac (Golden Sun)
    3. Kanden, Weavel (Metroid Prime Hunters) or Gandrayda (Metroid Prime 3)
    (I just want someone else from Metroid)
    4. King K.Rool
    5. Krystal (Star Fox)

    Top 5 3rd Party
    1. Bayonetta
    2. Banjo Kazooie
    3. Klonoa
    4. Layton
    5. Snake (MGS)

    Top 5 Indie (just because)
    1. Shantae
    2. Shovel Knight
    3. Gunvolt
    4. Quote/Curly (Cave Story)
    5. Hat Kid (A Hat in Time)

  • DissidiaSR21

    I vote Tharja ^~^

    • Guest

      They removed her trophy from the game because she shows too much skin, I doubt they would add her as a character, but she would be a much better character than stupid roy…

    • Guest
  • Timothy hasenstaub

    Past-A character that forgets his emotions and thoughts every 10 seconds making him weak or strong.

  • Questriolu

    I’d love it if Klonoa were to be added in the Smash Bros cast.

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