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Nintendo officially confirms that Metroid: Samus Returns’ Fusion mode can only be unlocked with amiibo

Posted on July 29, 2017 by (@NE_Brian) in 3DS, News

Nintendo unveiled the amiibo functionality for Metroid: Samus Returns this week. All four figures will work with the game – the original Smash Bros. amiibo and the new ones specifically made for this title.

Some of the functionality isn’t that big of a deal. On the other hand, some of it is. One of the big features being scrutinized is the Fusion mode. By scanning the new, squishy Metroid amiibo, you’ll receive access to the mode that provides a new level of difficulty and Samus’ Fusion Suit from Metroid Fusion.

There was initially some uncertainty as to whether this would be an amiibo exclusive. In a statement provided to Eurogamer, Nintendo offered an official confirmation. The company said that “this unlockable content is only unlocked using amiibo”.

So there you have it – if you want to gain access to the Fusion mode, you’ll need that new Metroid amiibo. The other amiibo unlockables are almost certainly exclusives as well, such as the Zero Suit Samus figure for unlocking Music in the Gallery

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  • Felipe M.

    If only Nintendo would make enough stock but no. It’s sold out already.

    This alone is going to help hike up the prices on eBay.

    Shame on you, Nintendo.

    • MrPerson0

      Alm & Celica dual amiibo pack sold out of pre-orders. And now, two months after their release, they are still readily available in the US through Best Buy and GameStop. Don’t be surprised if this happens with Samus Returns.

  • nemo37

    Yeah…I don’t think features like a hard mode should be hidden behind any sort of a pay wall. I did not agree with how they handled it in BoTW and I certainly disagree with putting it behind an Amiibo.

    • Adrian Brown

      I think BotW was handed better, considering that Epona was locked behind one of the most sold figures to date (Smash Link) and the new line didn’t offer something extremely good and exclusive. This, on the other hand, it’s kind of unfair.

  • Tlink7

    I think having any significant DLC, like a hard mode, locked behind an extremely limited amiibo is a stupid idea 😛

    …but then again I think having a hard mode be day-one DLC (…or DLC at all…..) is dodgy

    • It has come to this… Now we have to buy dlc/amiibo to get something as simple and standard as a hard mode.

  • キロ

    Oh no! xD

  • Samma

    Well, if this hard mode amiibo dlc is to be available to everyone, than I would have less a problem with it. Unfortunately, “Amiibo” and “Freely available” don’t mix.

    Oh btw: hard mode used to be a free feature.

  • Vigilante_blade

    Difficulty settings should NEVER be unlockables. It only serves to frustrate skilled gamers into playing a mode that is far too easy for them. Wheb they finally reached the point where they unlocked the harder mode, they essentially gained skill from beating the entire game, and then the hard mode ironically is too easy at this point.

    But amiibo unlocks are ridiculous. The feature exists on the cart. We are literally asked to pay extra to play an on-disk feature. We are literally being punished for being core gamers with experience.

    • nemo37

      I always liked Amiibos as being physical figurines that you could save avatar stats to (like for example how much you leveled up in a certain game as well as other stats); the appeal is that it is something that is physical yet contains a custom part of the player and is mostly used for display purposes (and I honestly would not like them to be used for much else beyond that). I am not really a fan of how Nintendo uses them in most games, where they are used just to unlock something that should have been available in the first place. I mean this is no different than what a lot of other companies do with DLC, where the actual data for a certain feature is available in the game but a paid DLC is needed to unlock it.

      • Tyson

        Yes but at least with amiibos you paid one dlc (amiibo) for various games instead of paying dlc for every game plus you get a cool figurine. So yeah, I prefer amiibos way of doing dlc instead of a regular dlc.

        • nemo37

          I don’t really like either method to be honest. As I stated above, I think the value of Amiibos should be in the physical aspect of the figure combined with the ability to customize them with your own in-game stats and achievements. With regards to DLC, I always believed paid DLC should only be used to add additional new content to a game. However, DLC should not be used to add content that should have shipped with the game. Similarly, I disagree with locking essential in-game features and content (particularly if the features are already included in the game and just need to be unlocked; although sometimes that can also extend to adding features through a DLC that should have been included) behind a paywall apart from the initial retail asking price; for me it does not matter if the paywall is paid DLC (which is how EA, Ubisoft, Sony, MS like to approach it) or figurines (which is how Nintendo is presently approaching it).

          • Tyson

            Content locked behind paywalls is nothing new, existed way before amiibos. For example in Metroid Prime (Game Cube era) Nintendo locked behind a paywall the fushion suit and the original Metroid game. Also in the gba Nintendo blocked contents behind the e-reader cards.

      • Adrián Alucard

        But Nintendo do not sell Amiibos as physical figurines or toys. Amiibos are sold as DLC

    • Felipe M.

      Nintendo is just following EA, Ubisoft and Activision’s footsteps.

      • Princess_Eevee9

        I have yet to play a game from them where I had to pay to finish the game or access the best ending.

      • Sylmaron

        At this rate Nintendo is out-EAing EA.

    • Jack Napier

      That’s a bit ridiculous and entitled. It’s like you never heard of bonus content or dlc. Features beyond what’s intended to be the main game.

      And who GAF if it’s on disk? Somehow it’s better if the data is held on the amiibo or sent digitally later on?

      Nintendos a company trying to sell things. And give fans optional bonus content and cool figures fans requested for years. But I guess you’re just being punished. Dumbass.

      • Adrián Alucard

        A difficulty is not a bonus is something that has been free since always. Like extra characters, skins, maps, weapons, modes…

        But now greedy companies can charge for all those free stuff. Nintendo and other game companies are not nice selling DLCs, they are simply greedy, awfully greedy.

        • Jack Napier

          SInce when are games or content “Free”? Even ‘free’ dlc is included in the cost of the game purchase…

          You’re deluding yourself.

          They made the main game. Then added a harder mode and a costume and made it dlc. And made excellent looking toys for collectors. How greedy. Everything should be free.

          • Adrián Alucard

            The second Quest (hard mode) for the original Zelda (NES) was free, for example. It’s a nice story. They made the game, when they saw they still have half of the cartridge free they tought how they can fill it and that’s how they created the second quest, just because they wanted to fill the cartridge.

            In Zero Mission the image gallery and the sound test are free (you unlock extra images for the gallery if you connect with metroid fussion)

            In Resident Evil 4 there are a lot of extra modes, weapons, costumes that are free

            etc…

            But in modern games all that stuff is not free because now they have the tecnology to charge for it

            Also I don’t collect toys (the main function is to stay in shelves collecting dust…)

          • Felipe M.

            Adrian, you’re on point but it’s pointless to argue with Jack Napier as he’s going to defend Nintendo no matter what.

          • Adrián Alucard

            Is he a very loyal and mindless Nintendog then?

          • Velen (Not WoW)

            I find it funny you have the name, and the avatar of a criminal character as you say all this.

            Not a rebuttal or a criticism, I just legit find it amusing.

            But Adrian does have a point. In the past, stuff like difficulty levels and such came as part of the complete package. The intended main game, and that was tradition. Now we’re having higher difficulty levels hidden behind paid DLC. It wouldn’t be as big of an issue if it was paid DLC in the same vein as the Trial of the Sword or other traditional-styled DLCs like skins, and weapons, and new maps and such, and all you had to do was pay some money and you get it. That’s not the case here.

            The issue that’s so infuriating is the fact this particular DLC is paywalled behind a figurine that will most assuredly be in low stock, and there’s no guarantee Nintendo will reliably restock these Amiibo to ensure people will have a greater opportunity to experience the said DLC.

            I agree Vigilante’s claim that core gamers are being actively punished by this is inherently stupid, but the ire and vitriol isn’t entirely unfounded.

          • Jack Napier

            It’s not stupid. It’s like a limited edition version with the amiibo, For collectors. If I buy the limited edition version of something, then I get access to features everyone else doesn’t. It’s kind of the point of such things. To drive sales and collectibility of products. You get what you pay for and always have.
            I am sure the main game will be well worth the asking price. And I’ll personally be getting a more robust experience, because I will be willing to pay more.
            There’s nothing wrong or stupid about that. I can’t believe people cry that they are being “punished” because they have to buy video games. LOL nice hobby

          • Adrián Alucard

            Since when a hard mode is a premium feature?

          • Velen (Not WoW)

            You know that’s not what people are crying about, don’t try to spin BS here. You should know better Jack.

            Also, it’s not the same as buying the limited edition of the game. Especially when such a special edition already exists. It’s literally buying baubles to get extra functionality. It also doesn’t change the fact of the stocking issue that Nintendo seems intent on not fixing in short order either. So yes, it is stupid. Especially considering in the past higher
            difficulty levels were a default part of the game instead of being a
            premium feature locked behind a toy.

            I myself already have a pre-order on Samus Returns, and fully intend to get it because I want the base game cause it’s surely going to be a sight better than the original GB/GBC game that I regret buying.

          • Oscar Yasser Garcia Juallek

            Since the very beginnings of the Metroid series, you dim wit.
            Fusion? hard Mode was a free unlock able in the game.
            Zero Mission? Same.
            The Prime Trilogy? SAME.
            Get away with your nonexistent standards, please.

      • Vigilante_blade

        Dumbass? Entitled? Looks like I am dealing with a crazed fanatic.

        We in fact are entitled to something as consummers: A fair deal. Difficulty settings have been free since the dawn of gaming. They generally exist to allow for more accessibility at both ends of the spectrum. It gives a compelling experience to new users and a compelling one for experienced users. Difficulty settings are not something that is meant to be sold. They are meant to be a way for a gamer to customize their experience in a manner that best suits them.

        Downloadable content is well… Content that you can download. I see no problems buying brand new content, but having access blocked to something that is already in the game and is merely an option setting that I would have otherwise gotten for free in the past os unnacceptable. Something like New Super Luigi U is fine to charge for. Something like Breath of the Wild Hero mode and this is not.

        In fact, Nintendo is causing us another issue… Their amiibos are limited in quantity, meaning that even when we want the content locked behind them, there is a chance that we simply cannot ever get it at a fair price. They could help everyone out and just sell digital amiibos licenses using your Nintendo ID, and honestly… They should. While it is nice for collectors, not everyone has the space to store a ton of figurines. I am running out of shelf space. Finding these things, let alone accessing this content should not be this much of a chore.

        Only a poor customer uses the term “entitled” unironically. We as customers should always strive for better deals. We should never white knight multibillion dollar corporations. That is a huge consumerism pitfall. This is the kind of attitude that makes us pay for online play via the console tax. We could have avoided it if we actually rose up against that. However, crazy fanboys will enable the worst behaviour.

        Now, to adress limited editions… You are aware that they are very anticonsummer, right? Nothing is more frustrating than having to wait in a line for a whole night on the off chance that you might get the thing that you want.

        Anyhow, before you start insulting people, I would suggest you steer away from debating altogether until you learn some manners.

        • Jack Napier

          It’s like you don’t understand the most basic concepts in all this.
          You think that because cheese on your Big Mac is “free” and enhances the flavour, then cheese should be now standard in all McDonald’s sandwiches. But if I want cheese on a McChicken, then $$$. I guess McDonald’s is punishing me for not loving Big Macs. That’s what you’re saying. That a difficulty mode is a commodity that is available in some products so should be included for everyone in other products for free.
          Good luck with that outlook. You’ll be sorry when you realize this is the real world and see your retail entitlements continually ignored.

          • Vigilante_blade

            And when they remove my cheese, I can go to Burger King and get the better deal. Seriously, your argument defeats itself.

          • Felipe M.

            Meh, I’d just rather make, grill and fry meat and fries at home than eat at those places but for the same of argument it works.

          • Vigilante_blade

            True, why settle for a cheap burger when you could have Prime ribs? That is what did with Federation Force.

        • Achoo W

          There’s not even a hard mode in Metroid Fusion, so what makes you think it would be included in this game regardless of the Amiibo?

          • Vigilante_blade

            Does not matter. You don’t charge for a difficulty setting.

          • Achoo W

            I disagree. I think it is fine if an extra that wasn’t going to be included

          • Vigilante_blade

            We’ll have to agree to disagree.

      • MrPerson0

        “And who GAF if it’s on disk? Somehow it’s better if the data is held on the amiibo or sent digitally later on?”

        Doesn’t make sense. If that were the case, the Smash Samus and Smash Zero Suit Samus amiibos would have to have data for a game that wasn’t even in development. It’s definitely going to be on-disc DLC.

    • MrPerson0

      “Difficulty settings should NEVER be unlockables.”

      Ever since Metroid Prime, you had to unlock Hard Mode in every Metroid game (except for Hunters, which didn’t have a Hard Mode), even Pinball. Doubt it’ll ever change. Also, I doubt anyone, as good as they are, will be able to easily beat the game on its hardest difficulty.

      • Velen (Not WoW)

        This is different. In Metroid Prime in order to unlock Hard Mode you simply had to beat the game. Here you have to have the Metroid amiibo in addition to beating the game once.

        • MrPerson0

          Please read the initial comment. The person isn’t complaining about amiibos in the first part of it, just the fact that we need to unlock difficulties.

      • Vigilante_blade

        Just because something has been done many times before doesn’t make it good….

        I can beat most games on their hardest settings. Experienced gamers do that…

        • MrPerson0

          Sure, people can beat them with multiple deaths their first time through, but experience gamers do not fall under most though. Don’t get what the issue is with playing through the game a second time though.

          • Vigilante_blade

            1. Going through the slog of playing a game without feeling compelled or having fun because it is too easy.

            2. Having limited time and a large backlog you’d rather be playing than playing through a game twice.

    • RoadyMike

      I don’t know what kind of hard modes you play, but the games with hard modes that I’ve played always provide a good challenge

      And this isn’t a punishment, but it is a nonsensical unnecessary paywall

      • Vigilante_blade

        I don’t know for you, but I play Fire Emblem on Lunatic, Hack my saves so I can play Zelda games on hero mode right away, sometimes do Pokemon Nuzlockes, and do no armour runs of Dark Souls.

        The thing is that I would love to pick hard modes. THey would be ideal for me if I could select them right away. Howeve,r in most cases, I have to beat the entire game to access it. SO I prett ymuch have to slog through an easy game to unlock it, only to find hard modes tooe asy because my skill has improved as a result of beating the entire game. What I want is to play on hard right off the bat.

        As for the paywall, yep, quite unecessary.

        • RoadyMike

          Some of those hard modes are fan things tho. But I understand nonetheless.
          What I meant was that unlockable modes aren’t “punishments”. A punishment would be some kind of action imposed on you by someone with authority after you did something that the authority frowns upon; like getting banned in a game for using hacks or cheats online
          I always saw more modes as rewards for completing the game. Like “Hey, congrats on beating the main game, here’s an enhanced version of it. Take everything you know about how to play and crank it to 11, you’ll need it”.
          If the hard mode is too easy for you then it’s just a bad hard mode. Let’s use Metroid as an example. A bad hard mode would just have more enemies in the area you’re in, which can be killed in the same manner as in normal mode. A good hard mode would fewer total health and missile upgrades(if at all), smarter enemy AI, tougher enemies, shorter escape times bosses that no longer follow a clear pattern, nerfed damage output and probably fewer or the complete removal of save points

          • Vigilante_blade

            Every single gamer starts at a different base skill level. Furthermore, some grow in skill faster or slower than others.

            Some arr Jeigan types gamers who start at high skills but almost plateau’d. Some are Est archetypes and start with low based skills but grow very quickly. Some are Oifey archetypes and start off at high base skill and grow fast as well. Some are like Sophia from FE 6 and start iff bad and remain bad, etc… Jokes aside, that reality is why an arbitrary difficulty setting will always leave some people either overwhelmed, or underwhelmed. Sometimes it is the base difficulty that is either too high or too low for tge person, and sometimes, it is the scaling of it (hence why games should allow you to switch the settings mid game).

            A bad difficulty setting is one that is locked or one that is trying to encompass all players into one single setting.

  • Tyson

    Please make enough of those amiibos, I want one, but I’m afraid of not finding one.

    • Felipe M.

      I’d hope so but they’re already out of stock everywhere and whenever a retailer brings them back in stock they run out again.

      Well, they are available on the UK retailer Base.com but they’re charging ridiculously high prices which is not surprising they’re still available.

    • Devlind

      Do not worry, they’ll put more on launch date or a week later. Metroid isn’t as popular as Zelda to be sold out immediately.

      • R.Z.

        I wonder whether it’s really about widespread popularity.
        The Bayonetta amiibo are pretty hard to find too, and it’s not like the games were ever selling like hotcakes.

        I think scalpers are just speculating on amiibo with a dedicated fanbase and some gale releasing.
        I bet Fire Emblem amiibo will become a rarity once the Switch game launches, like the Zelda ones suddenly sold out after the release of BotW.

        • MrPerson0

          And yes, the Alm & Celica amiibo combo pack is still easy to find.

  • Adrian Brown

    Counterfeit amiibo cards, here we go.

    • Felipe M.

      You’re going to buy pirated amiibo cards? No better than buying amiibos from scalpers.

      • R.Z.

        Waaaaaaay cheaper though.
        😉

      • Adrian Brown

        I know. Don’t get me wrong, I support amiibo, I actually bougth my 14th amiibo a couple of days ago (Bayonetta) but in this case I wasn’t interested in the Metroid amiibo in the first place. It looks cool, but I’m not crazy about it. So locking a mode that we all agree should’ve been unlocked with skill won’t make me buy it anyways.

        • MrPerson0

          You do realize that scanning the amiibo, no matter how you got it, will show Nintendo that you used the feature, which would want to make them use said paywall more, right?

          Play the game, don’t use amiibo.

          • Adrian Brown

            Unlike DLC, there’s no way for Nintendo to tell if you used amiibo in a game or not. So that means that I just give up on hard mode? Hell no.

    • Vigilante_blade

      I ordered NFC tags a while back. Saves me annoying artificial scarcity. Do not buy the cards when you can make them yourself.

      • Adrián Alucard

        too bad i don’t own a phone with NFC…

        • Adrian Brown

          cool name, man.

          • Adrián Alucard

            It’s Alucard’s (the one from the Castlevania series) real name (that just happens to be my real name too) + Alucard XD

    • MagcargoMan

      Normally I’m against piracy, but this is content already on the disc, so I say go ahead!

    • MrPerson0

      >People don’t want to support Nintendo having a paywall behind amiibos

      >People use illegal NFC chips to scan them in, showing Nintendo that they technically used an amiibo, supporting this method of unlock.

      Topkek.

      • MagcargoMan

        Nintendo doesn’t get money from illegal NFC chips.

  • CUD

    This still isn’t clear. Is there no harder difficulty setting or it just the fusion suit that is unlocked by the Amiibo?

    • Adrián Alucard

      It’s clear as glass. The fusion mode is the hard mode where Samus wear the fusion suit

      • MrPerson0

        No, it’s not clear as glass. For all we know, there could still be the good old Hard Mode in the game. Starting from Prime, it has never been revealed that there is an unlockable Hard Mode until the game is officially out (or those who own review/early copies).

        • Adrián Alucard

          Except for the fact that is alredy confirmed. Fusion mode is hard mode but with Samus wearing the fusion suit

          • MrPerson0

            But that doesn’t de-confirm that a Hard Mode exists as well.

          • Adrián Alucard

            But confirm that you need to buy a new (and harder) difficulty.

    • Devlind

      There is a hard setting where you use the fusion suit, BUT you have to scan the amiibo after finishing the game to unlock it.

    • Good question. I’m wondering if there is a harder difficulty without the Fusion suit. I know they kind of let you scale your difficulty in the game fairly well, but it would be nice if the game came with its own, base harder difficulty.

    • MrPerson0

      “Is there no harder difficulty setting or it just the fusion suit that is unlocked by the Amiibo?”

      No one knows. No Metroid game has been revealed to have a Hard Mode until the games’ release. There could very well be an unlockable Hard Mode.

  • Suraimu

    Line crossed, I wont buy this game.

    • Vigilante_blade

      Me neither. I can’t encourage this…

      • MrPerson0

        Just buy the game, don’t buy or use the amiibo. There you go, you are not encouraging this practice.

        You probably weren’t planning on buying the game to begin with lol.

    • Adrián Alucard

      Nintendo crossed the line with Zelda BotW.

      • Princess_Eevee9

        Except that they didn’t, don’t be stupid you obviously see the videos out there or the numerous articles detailing the Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild DLC Packs are well justified for the price.

        • Adrián Alucard

          Except they did.

          What if I don’t care about all the DLC? I still can’t play hard mode. I’m forced to buy all the DLCs that I don’t want if I want to play with higher difficulty.

          Plus, don’t forget Nintendo delayed the games 2 years just because the Switch, it’s clear that they cut content from the game just to sell it later

          • Velen (Not WoW)

            What. They did not delay the game 2 years just because of the Switch. Where the hell are you pulling this from?

            Citation needed.

          • Adrián Alucard

            Nintendo usually don’t mess with launchs because they wait to announce dates until the development is almost finished. They announced at E3 2014 that Zelda will be out in 2015 and keep saying that it was a Wii U title, not an NX one.

            Plus, Aonuma also stated multiple times that the Wii U controller screen was an important part of this Zelda game, a very important feture that was removed just because Switch single screen configuration.

            http://nintendotoday.com/zelda-wii-u-gamepad/

            So it is very obvious that they backstabed the very few Wii U owners that bought the Wii U just for Zelda to benefit the Switch launch.

          • Velen (Not WoW)

            I thought you were talking about Samus Returns still. My mistake.

    • Nhat Anh Hoang

      They will use that as an excuse to stop make Metroid because no one buy it, maybe ten years later the new one will be announced if we’re lucky

      • Suraimu

        Im fine with that, Id rather not get anything than this.

        • Nhat Anh Hoang

          Excellent, maybe we can agree Metroid will dead and disappear very soon. Good for me, I won’t need to spend money to buy another game. Other Nintendo franchise are way better like Zelda, Xenoblade and Fire Emblem anyway

    • MrPerson0

      Thank you for not supporting Metroid (if you were truly planning on buying it at first). I hope that there will be another eight year drought thanks to people like you.

      • Suraimu

        You are welcome. I like metroid too but I cant support this.

  • ecoutercavalier

    Well that’s still not completely telling. They say fusion mode is amiibo exclusive but they neglect to mention if there is some non-fusion hard mode that gets unlocked. fusion hard might have added damage like the Ganondorf amiibo in twilight princess. Guess we’ll just have to wait to find out.

  • This is stupid; Really, really stupid.

    Wouldn’t be as stupid if they wouldn’t just make a single run of maybe… 100 of them? And then they’re never to be seen again.

    Been looking forward to this and this could be enough to make me reconsider getting this game.

  • burchdude65

    What’s on the cartridge can be seen as complete when looked at on its own, but this is basically overpriced Day 1 DLC for those not interested in the actual figures.

  • Devlind

    At this rate, we are going to need to scan an amiibo to unlock the final boss.

  • Like others mention, I wonder if there’s a separate, harder difficulty in the game. If not, that sucks, but I do think they give you a bit of freedom with how hard you want the game to be. If anything though, they can still patch in a harder difficulty sans the Fusion suit if people are vocal (and polite) enough.

    It does suck when things are locked behind pay walls, but that’s always been the nature of things, and I do at least prefer DLC where I can get a figure out of it (or something physical that isn’t just an extra disc). If people don’t like amiibo, I guess they can always buy it, unlock the difficulty, and then sell the amiibo.

  • Ugh, why?! This only makes sense if anyone can just go out and buy one of these but only a fraction of the people interested in the mode will be able to. Seriously, Nintendo, hard mode unlocks after you beat the game in normal mode, bam, done. Anyone wanting that silly Metroid would buy it either way, why gate something so substantial to a certain playerbase behind it?!

  • JasonBall

    I mean I preordered the twopack and already have the smash amiibo so this is gonna be cool for me.

    • Velen (Not WoW)

      You got lucky.

      • JasonBall

        I know that amiibo are scarce so the day they were revealed and put up I went to my local GameStop and preordered them. I do admit this situation of hard mode is worse than usual though. Usually it’s obvious to me that amiibo content wouldn’t have been put in without the amiibo existing (tunics in BotW, cave in tphd, costumes in Miitopia, FedForce, puzzles in Picross 3D etc) but hard mode really should’ve been there for free.

        • Velen (Not WoW)

          I know and I wish it was. Cause now more than likely, I’m never going to be able to experience it unless I get them secondhand from a scalper and even that’s not guaranteed… I might hit up the local best buy to see about preorders.

          • JasonBall

            Personally I think this twopack won’t be hard to find in the long run. At first maybe, but a year later I can find the four Kirby series amiibo wherever I go. So I’d say wait and see, this feels like one they’ll make more of.

  • awng782

    Difficulty modes should never be locked behind DLC, let alone amiibos.

  • Toni

    this sucks, the game better not be easy without having a hard mode itself

  • MrPerson0

    Remember when it cost $160 ($100 GBA, $40 Metroid Fusion, $20 GCN/GBA Link Cable) to unlock the Fusion Suit in Metroid Prime? Or $60 ($40 Metroid Fusion and $20 GBA Link Cable) to unlock the complete Metroid Fusion gallery in Metroid: Zero Mission? Good times…don’t recall people complaining about those.

    • Well in that case, you had a portable video game system where you could play all kinds of games, a full portable Metroid game, link cables you could use on multiple games and as a bonus you had a Fusion Suit in Metroid Prime.

      Don’t be ridiculous, this is not the same thing.

      • MrPerson0

        I think I forgot to add that you needed a second GBA to get the Zero Mission unlock, so that makes it $150 instead of $50. Really don’t see how that makes sense.

    • Velen (Not WoW)

      This is not even remotely the same.

      • MrPerson0

        You’re right. It is MUCH cheaper to buy the amiibos + amiibo reader than it was back then to buy a console, game, and link cable.

        • Most people shouldn’t even have to buy an amiibo reader at this point. I have one from AC:HHD and have to use it, but how many people honestly haven’t upgraded?

          I get the dissatisfaction, but people are also blowing things out proportion in their displeasure.

  • You know, a series that is basically an endangered species doesn’t need this kind of business practices.

    • MrPerson0

      Yeah, it’s not like you can’t play the base game without these unlockables in the first place or anything.

      • Did you know? In other games you can play the base game in ANY difficulty you chose for absolutely FREE. Gee golly, what a steal!

        • MrPerson0

          And did you think of the possibility that we can unlock Hard Mode with no issue in the game, and Fusion Mode is just Hard Mode with a Fusion Suit skin?

          • If that was the case, then that’s a different story. I actually don’t have a problem with that. But so far everything points to the hard mode being locked behind the amiibo.

          • MrPerson0

            From what I have heard, Nintendo pulled off the same stunt with Star Fox Zero and Kirby Planet Robobot. Hopefully Metroid: Samus Returns will follow those two games instead of Fire Emblem Echoes.

  • R.Z.

    Wait, is the Metroid amiibo actually squishy ?
    If so I have to hunt for one !
    >:o

    • It is. They squished it at E3~. I want it so bad! ♥

  • Locky Mavo

    Love me some amiibo functionality, the Fusion Suit would had been plenty.

  • Jacob Groves

    My penis is blew up. Lmfao. Cannot wait for Metroid Prime 4. 😀

  • Pachirisu

    if this was just the fusion suit locked behind an amiibo, that would suck but hey that’s perfectly fine… but a whole difficulty mode locked behind an amiibo? yeah that’s pretty BS.

    • MrPerson0

      For all we know, there is a Hard Mode that is unlockable in the game, and that is the same difficulty as Fusion Mode. Best to hold out on the hate until reviews of the game comes out.

  • Vigilante_blade

    To all of those who say fan backlash never amounts for anything, this guy gets it:

    https://youtu.be/Y5hWArcemCg?t=432

    • Supporter

      I always want Nintendo to get it right and every time they do, there’s a caveat. I agree with you, the guy in the video, etc.

      Metroid: Samus Returns was my dream come true. A 2D Metroid on 3DS is something I’ve been waiting for a few years now. I just really wish this amiibo issue doesn’t mean less people buying the game.

      This was the same complaint that came up with Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia. It’s a fantastic game in my opinion, but people were threatening to skip it because of the expensive DLC. Same with Breath of the Wild’s season pass announcement before the game was out.

      In all these cases, I think Nintendo screwed up and fans have every right to complain. I just hope a loss of sales doesn’t do too much damage to Metroid if people do skip out. That’s all.

      • Vigilante_blade

        I know what you mean. There is always the concern that Nintendo will get the wrong message if we hold out, but I think that this is why we HAVE to make it abundantly clear that we want a new Metroid but that business practice is not acceptable. It is about being vocal. I know most people will moan about us being “too negative, too entitled, yah dah yah dah”, but being vocal is also the best way to let Nintendo know “why” we do not like something. Just voting with our wallets could simply give them the wrong take-away. It is up to interpretation on their part.

        As for Shadows of Valentia, I find it weird how angry people were about the DLC when Fates’s was far worse overall. Personally, I think SoV is the best FE game in the DS/3DS library. The DLC was stupid, but at least it isn’t a necessity unlike a hard mode is for some to enjoy the game.

        • Supporter

          I agree about being vocal. I like to avoid coming of as negative or entitled because many people do come off that way, but I want Nintendo to hear where we’re coming from. We’re not just complaining to complain.

          I totally like that amiibo have substantial unlocks in Metroid: Samus Returns. I just wish they were early unlocks instead of the only way to unlock something.

          I’ve heard people complain about Fire Emblem Fates DLC’s content/quality but the prices themselves weren’t an issue. I think the bigger controversy of Echoes’ DLC was definitely the price.

  • Supporter

    This sucks, but I hope people don’t skip this game because of it. No way do I want the Metroid series to go away again after it just came back.

  • Petri

    Would be cool, if you could actually buy the damn things for their msrp price…

  • MagcargoMan

    Screw you Nintendo. This is just a scam to force us to buy the Amiibo, and especially scummy because you can’t just use a Smash Samus Amiibo, only the new one.

    Content that is already on the cartridge should not be charged for separately behind a paywall. I’m buying this game but I will not buy the amiibo. In fact if I want the mode I’ll just meet up with someone who owns the amiibo and use theirs.

    • Velen (Not WoW)

      Was thinking the same thing, if I knew anybody in my area who is getting both.

      The woes of living in Kansas man. : (

    • MrPerson0

      “Content that is already on the cartridge should not be charged for separately behind a paywall.”

      Eh, it’s nothing new. Metroid Prime and Metroid: Zero Mission had a similar method (Fusion Suit and Image Gallery respectively).

      “I’m buying this game but I will not buy the amiibo.”

      At least you are still buying the game. There are idiots/trolls who said that they won’t buy the game at all even though they can still get the full experience of the game through buying it.

      “In fact if I want the mode I’ll just meet up with someone who owns the amiibo and use theirs.”

      This is how a good amount of people unlocked the content for Prime and Zero Mission. Guess nothing has really changed.

      • Velen (Not WoW)

        Still missing the overall point I see. Also, it was Metroid Fusion that unlocked the Fusion Suit, not Zero Mission.

        The difference between Metroid Fusion and Prime’s unlockables through the game link stuff is that Metroid Fusion was a whole other game that could be played on it’s own. So there was a more compelling reason to own it along with Prime: both are separate, complete games by themselves without the use of the link up.

        That’s not at all the same as with Samus Returns. The Amiibo are not separate, full games. They are toys with data chips in them that communicate with Nintendo’s NFC hardware. Collectibles.

        -and for that we get an extra difficulty mode that in pretty much every other Metroid game in the past outside of a few, all you had to do to unlock the higher difficulties was play the game through once, and it was yours. Now it’s being locked behind a physical paywall in the form of the Amiibo, instead of a digital one involving the single step of paying up some extra money for it.

        That’s all putting aside the fact higher difficulty levels shouldn’t be a premium item to begin with.

        • MrPerson0

          “Also, it was Metroid Fusion that unlocked the Fusion Suit, not Zero Mission.”

          Looks like you are the one who missed a point. I said Fusion Suit and Image Gallery respectively. Metroid Fusion unlocked the Fusion Suit for Metroid Prime, and Metroid Fusion unlocked the Fusion Image Gallery for Zero Mission.

          Doesn’t matter if the game was its entire own thing if the person only cared about Metroid Prime or Metroid: Zero Mission), especially when Fusion sucked as a Metroid game due to how linear it was. Heck, for Metroid: Zero Mission, you were forced to buy another GBA.

          And you keep on forgetting that Hard Mode is a thing in previous Metroid games, and Hard Mode was never revealed before a game’s release. For all we know, Hard Mode and Fusion Mode might be exactly the same in terms of difficulty.

          • Velen (Not WoW)

            I never forgot Hard Mode was a thing in previous Metroid games. I even mentioned they were in previous games. I can only assume you’re willfully misreading what I typed, or didn’t read all that I said, or you decided to focus on a single thing I said and springboard off that to try to sound smart.

            Stop messing about.

            -and yes it did matter. Whether Fusion sucked or not is entirely irrelevant to anything here. It doesn’t change the fact that Metroid Prime and Metroid Fusion were separate game experiences on their own, regardless of the bonus content they provided to each other and other games (Zero Mission).

            You could enjoy all 3 of them separately and not care for the bonus content cause they all provided complete experiences by themselves.

            Once again, it is not remotely the same thing. The Amiibo are separate but they are not full fledged games by themselves, unlike Metroid Fusion and Zero Mission, which gave you a more compelling reason to own them cause, hey, more games to play.

            Also, there’s no confirmation there will even be a normal Hard Mode or not, so even then, it changes nothing about the topic at hand: the fact an extra difficulty level is locked behind a toy with limited stock.

          • MrPerson0

            “I never forgot Hard Mode was a thing in previous Metroid games. I even mentioned they were in previous games. I can only assume you’re willfully misreading what I typed, or didn’t read all that I said, or you decided to focus on a single thing I said and springboard off that to try to sound smart.”

            It seems that you did indeed mention that, but you did gloss over the fact that Hard Mode was *never* revealed before the release of a Metroid game.

            “You could enjoy all 3 of them separately and not care for the bonus content cause they all provided complete experiences by themselves.”

            Are you saying that people don’t enjoy collecting the amiibo for display purposes? Also, the costs of the amiibo are far lower than the cost of a full fledged game.

            As I have said, but you seem to be ignoring, for all we know, Hard Mode and Fusion Mode could be the same difficulty, just one has the Fusion Suit. It’s best to not go into a rage mode until the reviews for the game is out and we know what is included in the game without the amiibo.

            Also, people constantly think the amiibo are going to be limited for some reason. I wonder why, since the Alm & Celica amiibo two pack set sold out of pre-orders, but are still readily available a full two months after their release.

      • MagcargoMan

        Just because it’s been done before doesn’t mean it’s right.

    • DeltaPeng

      Agree that the original Samus amiibo should allow the unlock

  • James Richards

    Why is it that we slate companies like EA, Activision etc for locking content behind a paywall. Yet, when it’s Nintendo it seems perfectly acceptable. £15 Amiibo needed to unlock new features, the game is £30-£40 and it costs £60 more to get all extra stuff. This is pathetic

    • Gamingfan

      because fanboys are [email protected]

  • DeltaPeng

    Imo, If it’s going to be something major or larger for amiibo unlock, Nintendo should either make sure there’s enough supply for demand, or better yet, some people only care about the digital unlocks, so make some amiibo cards to the unlocks as they’ll be cheaper. Nintendo would get more money, they’d meet demand more, everyone could win. I personally care more about the figurine, which is where more of the value/price is currently since the digital unlocks tend to be more minor/cosmetic. Or allow the digital unlock to permanently occur via purchasing some digital DLC (messes with the aspect of amiibo scanning a bit, but eh, most people won’t care).

    That said, some people complained amiibo don’t do/unlock much. So, here’s the larger unlock.

  • TheOnceAndFutureKing

    I remember when Zero Mission gave us the option to earn Hard Mode and Nes Metroid for FREE.

    Can we go back to that Nintendo?

    • MrPerson0

      There is nothing showing that Hard Mode can’t be unlocked in the game normally. We just can’t unlock Fusion Mode normally (as far as we know).

      Also, NES Metroid was available for free during a time the Virtual Console wasn’t around. No way would they lose any possible money by adding in Metroid II for free.

      • TheOnceAndFutureKing

        What about when Metroid was released as an NES Classic on the GBA right around the same time? Nintendo could have just forced us to buy that instead.

  • dbizal

    It’s cool… I’ll just make my own NFC amiibo and unlock it then. Stupid.