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Miyamoto says Nintendo is keeping quiet on NX due to a certain “idea”

Posted on June 27, 2016 by (@NE_Brian) in News, Switch

The NX was announced well over a year ago, but we still know relatively little about the system. That will finally change later this year. But as we wait, little drops of information are let out here and there. This time, we have a new quote from Shigeru Miyamoto.

The Associated Press recently asked Miyamoto about the new console cycle revolution. This prompted him to say that Nintendo hasn’t shared anything about NX due to a special “idea”.

Miyamoto stated:

“In terms of NX, there’s an idea that we’re working on. That’s why we can’t share anything at this point, and I don’t want to comment on the other companies. If it was just a matter of following advancements in technology, things would be coming out a lot quicker.”

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  • Stuart

    Maybe he is talking about NX using cartridges?

    • Exposer

      Not really maybe is another thing.

      • Stuart

        I guess it could be anyhing really.

        But that would be a good explanation, moving to carridges would be a big move for Nintendo, it woud make sense why they would want to keep it silence for a while.

      • MEDICAL MARIIJUANA DELIVERY

        rt

    • theFooFighter

      I kinda doubt that’s it. The 3ds already uses cartridges and chances are nx carts will be similar but just a more advance version of the same tech. Not only that but the vita uses similar cartridges for its games

    • Justin McQuillen

      Cartridges would be a big deal. I think that’s part of it, and the other part is the distributed computing idea they had in a patent a while back. The idea is that through distributed computing (similar to BOINC, I know a bit about this stuff because I’m a BOINC contributor) that certain parts of the graphics computation could be offloaded to a grid of other consoles which are consentually contributing (and being rewarded for contributing with free games), officially rendering NX the most powerful console ever (even better than modern PCs) with the best graphics ever regardless of how the individual unit’s capabilities stand up to the competition.

      This would make Reggie and other Nintendo exec’s comments about console power being inconsequential even more true, and even more funny when Sony and MS realize they just got leap-frogged.

      • Henrik

        How much does distributed computing rely on good internet connections? or does it work some other way?

        • Garrett Walker

          It prefers fast low latency internet.

          • Henrik

            Thanx

      • Decaract10 .

        Microsoft literally already tried that with cloud computing on the Xbox One, and it never really went anywhere.

        • Commander Keen

          Could just be because they saw the idea was already patented and didn’t want to license it or come up with a work-around.

      • MichiganMedic

        There could be a use of RAM on carts that hasn’t been done before. Recently there has been hard drives that contain RAM, making the RAM strips we have known obsolete. If they did something with them and using carts, they could really jump ahead.

        • Justin McQuillen

          That reminds me of the FX chips in some SNES games, which literally had supplemental computing chips inside the cartridge allowing SNES games to have better graphics, and for each individual game to have its own graphics tech. I loved that, and it’s one of the reasons cartridges were so much better. Imagine how this could work with modern consoles?

      • Garrett Walker

        Wait, you’re right about it being distributed but I think you working on BOINC had you biased on what kind of distributed platform.
        I think it is a locally distributed platform.
        I know, I know. That patent sounds like a compute cluster, but if it is then there is no way the NX will work in most areas(namely, my area) because of latency so for now lets assume it isn’t.

        So there are rumors from good sources saying it’s using cartridges.
        Also rumors from good sources saying they are using a Tegra(either X1 or non released).
        Rumors(although wasn’t the best source, I believe this was on Wololo a while back so bear with me) that this system is meant as a portable and and home console.

        And then there are the new controller patents we’ve seen.

        I think how this new system may work is the controllers would be a handheld(Tegra Soc makes this possible, good performance/graphics in a nice low watt package) that you can play your games with on the go and when you get home your NX would then offer extra processing horse power(mainly graphics) for your controller or vice versa if you were playing the NX on your TV.

        Now this would be a weird solution, but could solve the internet requirement for distributed computing that the Xbone had(and NX will face if it goes that route).

        We’ve already seen the WiiU broadcasting video to it’s gamepad with minimal latency and although it is nothing compared to actual cpu to gpu system latency it is actually a decent amount of bandwidth with low enough latency that I’d say it definitely rivals what Microsoft were trying to do, plus it’s been 5 years. Wireless AC has really matured and they could put an even better wireless chip for transmitting between console to handheld.

      • Them why not go Cloud gaming all the way instead? Like Gaikai idea. Why the hassle with peer sharing

        • Justin McQuillen

          It’s the same thing, different name basically.

    • Knowing Nintendo, it’s not going to be something as simple as that.

  • SM

    I really hope it is a hook that everyone can get behind

    • Henrik

      It’s the bait on the hook that really matters 🙂

  • Michael Cortorreal

    Idea huh…with the VR buzz that’s been around it would not be out of the question that the NX is trying to have its own version of it.

    And don’t remind me of what Reggie says on the matter, because that’s the president of NA, his peers might think differently than him and are willing to try the exhaust out.

    • Jack Red

      Could also be the hybrid idea.

      • Michael Cortorreal

        Hmm that ls more realistic, making a hybrid console ain’t an easy task.
        How would you do it? Make the controller itself the handheld unit? That can take cartridges on it?
        Or sell the handheld separately and work like PSV and PS4?

        • Jack Red

          Could work out in that the handheld can be sold separately, or you could buy it bundled with the Home Console for a slightly cheaper price. And use the Cartridges as their means of cross platform physical games.

          • Michael Cortorreal

            They already stated they are going to sell the console at a premium, so can’t say much on that regard.

            I also remember “leak” that stated that the NX indeed worked like 2 different platforms, one is the console itself…but the other is “mobile” and by mobile might be cellphones

            So my guess is like yours, there will be a bundle with that mobile part included.

          • Indielink

            That’s what I’m hoping. In March of 2017 we get NX Home and then in December 2017 or 2018 we get NX handheld. They both use the same carts and play the same games but we get cross save and buy functions between them.

          • theFooFighter

            I can kinda see something similar to that but to allow a handheld to play console level games the thing would either need to be an absolute powerhouse or the home console will need to be pretty weak. I could definitely see Nintendo moving towards a more unified development process for both console and handheld games with a handful of games being on both systems but there’s no way a next gen AAA metroid or xenoblade is going to run on a handheld unless the home console is barely ahead of the Wii u

          • Michael Cortorreal

            Well it seems Nintendo is not taking the risk to make a weak home console this time around, the NX needs to be on par with the ps4 and Xone at the very least.

          • theFooFighter

            My guess is that the neo and the nx probably have similar specs. I doubt Nintendo is going to try to beat the scorpion

          • uPadWatcher

            I disagree with you, FOOS!

          • uPadWatcher

            There is a possibility that the NX will be on par (or surpass) with the PS Neo. However, Nintendo’s upcoming system will be powerful than PS4 and XBOne. There is a possibility of their new system to be powered by AMD processors including Polaris 10 and Vulkan API.

          • Indielink

            Maybe the handheld version will just run things in a reduced manner. 720/30 and reduced graphical effecrs compared to when the cartridge is in the home version.

          • theFooFighter

            Assuming that their next 2 systems are a ps4 level home console and a 360 level handheld that is doable for some titles. 2d platformers, eshop games, less demanding stuff like smash, animal crossing ect that stuff could pretty easily be scaled down to a handheld especially if they’re working with similar architectures and a good engine but as soon as they start pushing the power of the home console its just not possible. A xenoblade made from the ground up for a ps4 level system simply wouldn’t work on a handheld unless it costs an absurd amount of money. Same goes for 3rd party games there’s no way Activision would make CoD playable on a system that will probably be less powerful than the wii u and that’s assuming they could somehow down scale the engine to work on the hardware in the first place

          • Indielink

            It might not be the most feasible thing but it’s not impossible. Engines like Unreal 4 and Fox (MGS5 engine) have proven to be incredibly scalable.

            I don’t think it’s a stretch to say that the handheld component could be more powerful than a 360, the Vita is mightily close to that system in capability. We’ve seen Xenoblade work on a handheld with about as much power as a Gamecube and yeah it has some stuff cut down but that’s kind of what’s to be expected when the system wasn’t built to handle open world games.

            As for third parties, the bigger issue there is architecture. Trying to put current games on the WiiU/3DS is like putting a square block into a round hole, takes a lot of effort and screw that. You need to rework the entire game to account for what the GPU/CPU are AND THEN shave stuff off. If the NX Home and Portable have similar architecture then it’s a simple port and then just trimming LOD and alpha effects and stuff until you have a good framerate.

          • Jack Red

            Yeah. And I can see the handheld probably have a 720p or 900p screen for it, while the console portion supports up 1440p resolution aswell as supporting HDR effects. (I get that 1440p isn’t a resolution in TVs, but I can see it being the resolution Nintendo goes for if they don’t keep 1080p only instead of going 4k/2160p. Since I think that 1440p isn’t as demanding as 4k/2160p.)

    • The King

      Reggie lost me awhile back with his hype campaign on the Wii U. Dude needs to go back to selling Pizzas.

      • Michael Cortorreal

        Truth to be told, I have dislike Reggie ever since my teens, there was something about him that pissed me off and I disliked back then.
        That dislike transformed into the realization, it was his speech, he talks like a business man you find in wallstreet.

        • theFooFighter

          At first I was ok with him but a handful of things NOA has done this gen has made me dislike Reggie and NOA as a whole

          • Michael Cortorreal

            Oh that’s get another reason, I remember on the GameCube era A LOT of games didn’t meet the cut and we’re not localized because Reggie steeped in, but I can’t remember any special mentions right now.

          • theFooFighter

            I don’t remember much from the GameCube era but last gen the Wii fatal frame games, captain rainbow and the rainfall trio come to mind.

          • Michael Cortorreal

            Those too…

          • GamerGuy

            Dude, those didn’t come because those didn’t sell in JP. It wouldn’t be profitable here. Look it up.

          • Michael Cortorreal

            Zelda ain’t as profitable in Japan as in the West, many of the ips would have made a decent cut if it did come to the west, but o well, that’s on the past.

          • R.Z.

            And yet they decided to release some of them in PAL regions i a suppisedly smaller and more segmented market …

          • Vigilante_blade

            I have to admit, I am still mad that they removed tons of story from FE Awakening and did a horrible voiceover direction. I do not blame the voice actors because they (most) were in Awakening and did very well.

          • theFooFighter

            I’m still mad about how they’ve handled the fatal frame series. Nintendo probably paid a pretty penny to co-own that series but NOA has done everything in their power to kill it in America

          • GamerGuy

            They didn’t remove story in that game. What are you talking about?

          • GamerGuy

            Dude, NOA isn’t that bad. Reggie is a marketing person. He still enjoys games.

          • theFooFighter

            They censor everything and they’re too hesitant to bring over games like fatal frame and jrpgs. Also their marketing for everything besides Mario and pokemon is terrible

          • GamerGuy

            You & other dumb fanboys need to get a life. They DON’T censor everything. And Fatal Fame was fine. It wouldn’t profitable as retail. Look up localization. Treehouse is fine. Period.

          • theFooFighter

            Bs dude. Horror is on the rise and fatal frame could have easily taken advantage of that by harkening back to the ps1 RE and silent hill style of gameplay but NOA refused to give it the attention it requires to be a bigger name in the west. Not only that but FF4 and the remake of 2 are not officially playable in America in any way shape or form NOA has treated the series like trash, at least Europe got a limited print run of 5 and a localization of 2. On top of that their censorship has gotten ridiculous, they completely changed a chapter in #fe, removed the bad endings for quests in bravely second and cut out a mode from fire emblem. Their marketing is garbage and they frequently ignore games which leads to them to flop in what is traditionally Nintendo ‘s most profitable region and the way they pick and choose what games get localized is terrible. Aside from the Wii fatal frame games we still haven’t gotten mother 3, captain rainbow, disaster day of crisis, f-zero climax, or Zangeki no Reginleiv

          • Annie

            To be fair Disaster, Zangeki and Captain Rainbow aren’t good games and sold kind of poorly, I don’t see them doing well in America and it’s pretty obvious why we didn’t get Mother 3 on the GBA but I do think that a VC release would do well

        • He is a mess and he don’t know nothing about gaming industry….he need back to VH1 again. Period!

          • GamerGuy

            No, he does. He does fine. He’s just less transparent sometimes. He’s acting like other people in different companies. Don’t worry, he’s okay.

          • Well I respect your opinion but not agree with you.

          • GamerGuy

            No, that other person is incorrect. Reggie has been with Nintendo and he has flaws, but he takes the business to what it is.

          • I respect but not agree with you. Don’t try to convince me I won’t change of mind. Just let go, this news is too old it’s time to move on!

        • The King

          The way he was forced to market the Wii U made me dislike him. He’s a great speaker and can run the floor at E3’s. This is kind of why I hated how they decided to take away E3 away from Nintendo related stuff. They have made Reggie into a Nintendo puppet, and sadly, he sounds stupid every time he talks the nonsense they have him speak on the behalf of Nintendo. And he is a businessman. He ran Pizza Hut and brought them a lot of success. The gaming market is different because he doesn’t make games, he decides on how to make them sell. Unfortunately for him, Nintendo is a hard sell at the moment.

      • uPadWatcher

        Bull. From the tone of his voice to his facial expressions– It’s NDA.

      • GamerGuy

        Reggie is fine. What are you talking about?

    • Exposer

      Miyamoto: virtual reality “doesn’t fit Nintendo’s current philosophy”

      • Michael Cortorreal

        Then it’s hybrid or motion controls 2.0

        • GamerGuy

          Don’t be stupid. It’s likely something different since NX might be a handheld from cartridges rumors.

  • Armando Márquez González

    Maybe they’re making their own VR thingy?

    • KobobKC ツ

      … no

  • Blanco8x8

    Because Nintendo’s ideas are worth stealing.

    *Looks at Sony*

    • I was thinking the same, lol.

    • 49ers fan

      and mickey$oft….

    • PeterParkour

      And the saturated market of cheap Chinese Wii knock-offs

  • theFooFighter

    This is both interesting and concerning

    • Michael Cortorreal

      Wonder why you say that, I’m.really curious to hear your opinion on the matter.

      • theFooFighter

        New ideas are always great but I feel like Nintendo pushing these ideas and features hurts their success more than anything. After the Wii u, 3ds and even the xb1 it seems like they would be hesitant to make whatever this new idea is one of ghe main selling points of their console

        • Michael Cortorreal

          Well that’s true enough, I just hope the idea is “simplistic” like:
          Cartridges (ok let’s stop calling them that cause they are not gonna use that…they are using flash cards).
          Hybrid gaming, a console that is also a handheld.
          Virtual/Augmented/Their own vision Reality.

          No motion controls 2.0
          No kinetic controls.
          Maybe voice command to the console.
          Maybe a virtual assistant.

          Nothing to flashy, but something so subtle and significant it can affect going somehow.

          Back when the SNES came out, the LR buttons caused an outrage, but today they are standard, heck Sony added a couple more LR buttons and even Nintendo had to follow suit, them being the one’s who implemented that button structure in the first place.

          • Vigilante_blade

            The L and R buttons did not cause an outrage though. It was immediately accepted. But yes, I hope that whatever new things they do are not tied to the controller. It needs to be a traditional controller above all else.

          • Mark Graver

            Traditional has evolved, and it well should I would imagine.

          • I want to focus in my TV only, not look down or any weird gimmcky.

          • Vigilante_blade

            Same.

          • ForeVision

            But if the gimmick was more of an asset, such as the way it was done in some other titles (Xenoblade) and less like Star Fox, how would you consider it then?

            I enjoy my controllers, the good old fashioned sort you can trust to do the job for you, but I wouldn’t blame people for thinking them stale either, as they’ve been around for a very long time.

            It’s a conflict between “don’t change a winning team” and “without struggle, there is no progress” the struggle being trying to find the next big thing. But no matter what’s discussed and how, we always end up at the same spot: more official info needed…

          • Reggie

            Don’t bother debating with them. Even when you list good examples of the gamepad complimenting the game as an asset, they still won’t listen. Unless it is a traditional controller, it sucks to them.

          • Because I don’t like the GamePad doesn’t mean sucks I don’t like GamePad to play KOF, ST, GG or any fight games and racing games becauae isn’t confortable, maybe if you able to play fight games fast paced or racing games with GamePad good for you, Congrats! GamePad doesn’t sucks I never said it in the past and I won’t say it so don’t try to twisted my words mate.

          • Reggie

            Dude you don’t have to be so defensive about it. If I had to be completely honest, my comment was more directed to just one person, but it was a generalized comment.

          • I’m not defensive at all mate if that you think, perhaps next time don’t generalized I’m of those persons say “GamePad sucks”, I’m not of those persons who owns a Wii U bashing and criticism, and still yet supporting the system to buying more games and accessories, if I don’t like something I don’t buy it, why I should buy something if it’s sucks or not feel fulfill satisfied with the product I bought? For me make no sense at all, I respect that persons but I’m not agree with their way to think. That’s why we have more choices in the market like PS, Xbox and PC to move on with your life. Wii U didn’t appeal to me like NES, 3DS and Virtual Boy did, I’m good with that. I’m not a hardcore Nintendo fan I just play for fun!

          • ForeVision

            That isn’t necessarily the case though, as I think everyone could see the use of a well-implemented piece of hardware, and it’s been proven to work in some, and proven not to work in others.

            It’s getting that part right to recognize when the piece of hardware detracts from the experience and when it adds to it.

          • But if the gimmick was more of an asset, such as the way it was done in some other titles (Xenoblade) and less like Star Fox, how would you consider it then?

            True, the sad thing is Nintendo mostly in their games don’t know how to implement second screen successfully, or those party developers.

            I enjoy my controllers, the good old fashioned sort you can trust to do the job for you, but I wouldn’t blame people for thinking them stale either, as they’ve been around for a very long time.

            For many people who like fast paced games you don’t have time to see down the control and loose the focus in the game in your TV, Second screen is good for certain games slow paced games e.g. Minecraft and Mario Maker and RPG games. But in my point of view and I think most players love fast paced games rather slow paced games, so I simple control always will be the best asset for any console also is comfortable to any type of game.

            It’s a conflict between “don’t change a winning team” and “without struggle, there is no progress” the struggle being trying to find the next big thing. But no matter what’s discussed and how, we always end up at the same spot: more official info needed…

            True, no doubt “without struggle, there is no progress” you have a point of that many great things come with crazy ideas but Nintendo seems doesn’t care about specs always try to find the new thing cost them a lot of money loose because they don’t want to add specs and AAA games and third party developers don’t want work overtime if the system doesn’t appeal with the progress.

            I bet if Wii U have the same horsepower as equal PS4 or at least Xbox One – X86 structure, outstanding marketing ads, bring games like: Mario Galaxy 3, Pikmin 4, Zelda Wii U, Metroid Prime 4, Animal Crossing, and F-Zero, GamePad buy separately affordable price 4 players can play and Pro Control include in the bundles. I pretty sure Wii U could sell easy 35 millions and even more.

          • ForeVision

            I could certainly see how it would be cumbersome to break focus during high-paced games (PvP comes to mind) when having to look at a different screen or do things with specific hardware.

            These games would have to be excluded from such innovations, as they don’t need them. The high-paced action keeps you busy and you can’t afford distractions. Something which doubles for me as I’ve got a disorder that affects my reaction-speed.

    • My exact thoughts lol.

  • Captain Planet

    hello

    • uPadWatcher

      The power is mine, snitches!!!!!

  • coldbluelava

    Hmm. I wonder if it’s shared resources. (Ex: It’s a hybrid that connects to the TV via a wireless dongle & the dongle shares system resources over the net.)

    • Captain Planet

      can i see your mommy

  • uPadWatcher

    In other words, it’s classified information… Non Disclosure Agreement. Nintendo is really keeping their Ace of Spades a whole lot closer than their past home system.

  • 49ers fan

    oh my god!…. more motion controller garbage incoming!

    • Michael Cortorreal

      I love how positive you are in all the threads :3

      • 49ers fan

        thanks i try my best 🙂

      • KobobKC ツ

        True. He’s always posting wonderful comments!

    • uPadWatcher

      I doubt it.

      • 49ers fan

        here to back up my words… yesterday: Reggie argues in favor of motion controls…

        • uPadWatcher

          Kimishima needs to fire Reggie effective immediately.

        • awng781

          What was he supposed to do, say motion controls suck and start trashing Skyward Sword??
          I’m not a fan of motion controls myself, but I can’t blame Reggie for being Reggie. He’s doing what all company presidents need to do: manage PR.

          • 49ers fan

            he should be honest and not lie…

          • awng781

            And lose his job?? Sounds like a good plan.

          • 49ers fan

            lose his job??… and how do you think that would look for nintendo?.. nintendo fire reggie because he was honest and ninendo lied.. that would kill the companys reputation totally.

          • TheWeasel

            Part of the job of someone involved in Public Relations is to make the company look good, or at least not look bad.

          • awng781

            “Motion controls aren’t good and neither is Skyward Sword”
            You expect Reggie to say that??

          • 49ers fan

            yes, and i expect him to say ‘IT SUCKS’ too…

          • TheWeasel

            Realistically, no company would have their president say that.

          • awng781

            Great job advice you got there.
            Pretty sure Reggie wants to keep his.

          • Hugrazy

            Are you honestly getting mad at the PR guy for backing Nintendo’s decisions?

          • 49ers fan

            im always honest.

        • Annie

          Motion controls can be good when the gameplay is designed around them, it’s when they implement them into a game that doesn’t need them (like Donkey Kong Country Returns) when they are a problem

    • Nah he could be talking about that supposed cartridge media format and how it would make the NX so easy to develop for or he could be talking about the NX possibly being an handheld/home console device or he could be talking about the SCD (Supplemental Computing Device). There’s so many scenarios but I don’t think the NX will have a forced ” unconventional ” gimmick

      • Vigilante_blade

        If they don’t force gimmicks, I’m very likely to buy it.

        • Kazu

          You’ll probably buy it either way.
          You’re just hurt by some of Nintendo’s decisions like many of us, Including me.. and thats understandable.
          But if you didnt get bored of the Nintendo games and aren’t short on money, then sooner or later you’re still gonna get the NX.
          I mean it’s probably going to have all the good Nintendo games that were missing on the Wii U. Or at least most of them. (I hope so)

          • Vigilante_blade

            I have a girlfriend since recently, so I’m not exactly hurting for good games. I’ve had less time of late, meaning I take more time to beat my games. It’s clear that I’m not getting it at launch if there is any gimmick involved and I will wait longer than I did for Wii U. Wii U clearly did not care for core gamers.

          • Kazu

            Yeah, that’s what i meant by waiting a bit and see. Nintendo did a lot of mistakes regarding the Wii U, everyone can agree on this one. One of my complains is how the GC adapter only works on Sm4sh, regarding the Wii U games at least. It hurts to have to buy 2+ Pro controllers just to play MK8 with friends on equal terms. I think they also didnt make an F-Zero game because the L+R triggers werent the same as the GC one’s. Bad decisions aside though, it’s not really hard to see that it actually had some great stuff on it’s own, mostly casual stuff, but some games were much better than what other consoles had till now for sure. At least thats how i feel. So far i was only jealous of Bloodborne. There are more great games coming to the PS4 now but i couldnt find it a justified purchase as of yet. I think this gen as a whole was bad, not just Nintendo. It’s just that grown ups mostly go with Sony cause of CoD, Battlefield, Sports games and stuff. It’s mostly 3rd party games that keeps those consoles alive. If Nintendo gets their support as well and the consumers see that, they will do so much better. They’ll have to bring traditional controls on the table too though.
            And i’m not a PC masterrace guy or whatever but at least that doesnt disappoint as much, if ever.
            Overwatch is the real deal these days, a bit overhyped, but it’s good.

          • ForeVision

            My friend, have you ever owned a Wii? Compared to the Wii the Wii-U had quite a few core games, whereas I’ve spent days during the Wii era hunting for core games, sifting through others that were shovelware that put clickers to shame.

            Regardless, it could’ve used more core titles, and it’s lifespan has (in my honest opinion) been cut rather short. But we could take this as a sign that Nintendo admits the Wii-U wasn’t exactly the homerun they were looking for, and the developments with things such as Zelda look promising.

            The waiting for official info isn’t helping things, but at least they’re releasing tidbits left and right so it seems.

          • Kazu

            I’m not in the need of a sign from Nintendo in which they admit that the Wii U was unsuccessful in many ways.
            It’s simply obvious to me.

            But don’t get me wrong, i have both the Wii and the Wii U, and i dont regret my purchases. It’s just that both made me feel like there’s a love-hate situation going on. Nintendo was like 1 step forward, 2 steps backwards with these. The Wii U was a better console than the Wii but all the bad decisions they made regarding it and the lack of support to their faithful customers when we needed it the most made me lose almost all of my Nintendo hype, both for their E3 and the NX. I feel like the NX will fix up some stuff, but Nintendo has been a lot of a let down to me lately.
            Of course you ma think different but that how i feel and that can hardly change.
            They have so much to give to the home console experience and yet they just dont.
            At least their handhelds are still rolling great.

          • ForeVision

            I can understand your skepticism and feeling jaded, as I’m very much in the same position. Starting from when NoA began their social crusade to cutting the Wii-U short (albeit I can bring up some understanding for the situation now, considering the Wii-U’s position).

            Nintendo has to pick up the pace when it comes to NX news, both to restore faith to their core demographic that felt left behind during the Wii era, and entice people who are looking for different experiences than what the largely overlapping library of their competitors offer.

            There’s nothing wrong with having faith in them still, but all things considered I’d wait and see.

      • 49ers fan

        what about cloud gaming?

    • Kokusho

      motion controls are good when used for what they’re good at, ex: aiming for exemple, much better than twin stick alone.

  • John Enigma

    What’s the big “idea”?

    COME ON, NINTENDO!

    • uPadWatcher

      Three letters– NDA– Non Disclosure Agreement.

      • John Enigma

        Ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff…

        The hell with that.

      • theFooFighter

        Would anything really happen if someone like miyamoto broke a NDA he’s basically 2nd or 3rd in command at this point

        • uPadWatcher

          Sony and Microsoft would steal Nintendo’s innovation and make it their own. Remember the Xbox SmartGlASS?

          • theFooFighter

            What the hell is smart glass?

          • uPadWatcher

            Google keyword: Xbox Smartglass

        • KobobKC ツ

          Uh yeah. Miyamoto is keeping it secret for the sake of “his” company.

  • Lord Ozzie

    I just want the next handheld that’s at least powerful as the Vita and I am satisfied.

    • uPadWatcher

      The Nintendo NX is gonna be a combination of both handheld and home system.

      • Lord Ozzie

        I would understand if the next Handheld and Console share the same cartridges but I extremely doubt that the NX is a hybrid, that would be really expensive which goes against Nintendo’s policy: Under powered hardware, decent price then profit.

        • uPadWatcher

          That don’t amount to anything at all, Ozzy. Now that Kimishima is the president, the system is gonna change for the better. Nintendo needs western third party support now more than ever. This is one of the reasons the company is planning to unveil their new system that’s more powerful than the Wii U and to be either on par or surpass Sony and Microsoft’s HD systems.

          Square Enix, Bandai Namco, CAPCOM, SEGA/ATLUS, Platinum Games and more Japanese third party publishers and developers are supporting the Big N in making games for the NX. Ubisoft is the first western third party publisher/developer to support Nintendo along with Activision, Shin’en, and ND Dev.

          • And WB Games

          • uPadWatcher

            You’re right, Paidenthusiast!

      • John Enigma

        Kinda like a home console that looks like Xbox One or PlayStation 4, and a handheld console that looks like the NVIDIA Shield gamepad.

        At least, that’s how I look at it, if it ends up being a hybrid like the rumors are saying.

      • Or it could be a family of systems. Remember the reference that the late Satoru Iwata made about their next gaming ideas being similar to what Apple does with their devices (namely the IPhone and IPad) and that Nintendo needs to be more like them? Well the NX could be a brand of devices like a home console and a handheld but sold separately

        • Hope so bcz I’m not into anymore handheld anymore…I just want a home console 🙂

    • ben

      Buy a vita.

  • Michael Cortorreal

    On another train of thought…why don’t they tease when there are they going to talk even slightly about the NX…
    Like…give a hint if they are going to talk about it on their shareholders meeting this week or next month -_-

    • They could but they are afraid that Sony and Microsoft will try to copy them. Nintendo wants to introduce something new and fresh from a home console perspective. Whatever this ” idea ” is Nintendo must be really be confident that it will be something ground-breaking or otherwise they wouldn’t be this secretive

      • KobobKC ツ

        someone who makes sense

      • ben

        I agree some massive developers have been already talking up the project I doubt it is anything other than a very clever idea if it is causing such a buzz.

      • But that doesn’t mean after 6/12 months PS or Xbox will introduce in their system the same “idea” Nintendo did, Nintendo isn’t immune to not be copy. Just saying.

    • R.Z.

      Not sure they have scheduled their reveal yet, they probably want to know when SONY and MS will make their move.

      • Michael Cortorreal

        Microsoft already made their move, and are so confident that the Scorpio is not coming until next year.

        There is only Sony to reveal theirs and something tells me is going to be soon too.

    • ben

      They said in the fall.

  • TheWeasel

    Hey, hey, hey! It’s time for more speculation on NX that will ultimately lead to nowhere! Except maybe disappointment! And/or unmet expectations!
    http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/099/840/786.png

    Alright alright, I’m just playing around. You all are free to discuss whatever you like, of course!

    • ronin4life

      The plankton is right though

  • Bap

    I’d like to say with the PS4.5 and that upcoming Xbone, Nintendo might be doing some upgrading to the NX.

    • uPadWatcher

      Here’s the hint of NX’s secret weapon– Supplemental Computing Device.

  • Mamityh

    Honestly I hope they incorporate the 3ds as a controller option.

  • KobobKC ツ

    This new “idea” sounds promising. I’m going to keep my hopes low though. Everything turns out better if you have low expectations.

    • theFooFighter

      Unless it’s the EA e3 press conference. Then you still end up disappointed

      • KobobKC ツ

        I haven’t watched their press conference, but that’s probably true xD

        • Kira – HylianKeyblade

          I will say what I fell in love with one of the game and that was Fe ^^. (Similar to Ori and the Blind Forest in terms of feeling I think).

  • NinetalesCommander

    Feel free to call me mad but I have a feeling the NX is going to be similar to Zelda: Breath of the Wild.
    And by that, I mean it’s going to be worth all the waiting.

    • KobobKC ツ

      I hope 😀

      • KobobKC ツ

        This comment is so hypocritical LOL

    • TheWeasel

      They kept very tight-lipped on Zelda, and it turned out to be great.

      I also feel that they are well aware of what they have, and will show us when they feel is right.

      • R.Z.

        Makes me wonder if it was worth it seeing how Horizon turned out to be basically the same game with a generic art direction, and how in general the new Zelda formula doesn’t seem to do anything genuinely new.

        • TheWeasel

          I think the main point is that Zelda was well received and is now anticipated by a large amount of people, fans or not, and that’s the kind of reception that NX could really benefit from when it’s revealed.

  • Mike Santone

    maybe it’s another shoehorned gimmick

    • KobobKC ツ

      im guessing it’s not, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it was

    • TheWeasel

      Maybe it’s not another shoehorned gimmick. :O

    • R.Z.

      Maybe it’s another gimmick but instead of being shoehorned, it will be tacked on !

    • ronin4life

      Maybe its another shoehorned gimmick, like PS4 and Xbox Ones’s 1080p, network features and 4k
      IE, added to the console for marketting effect, never to be fully used as intended by developers past the sales pitch.

      • KobobKC ツ

        This is good logic… I never thought of it that way.

  • Lolo

    Oh no…its a gimmick…

    • KobobKC ツ

      such an original comment. 10/10

  • DeltaPeng

    Gimmick or not, I’m more just curious as to what the NX will be (hoping for the hybrid, as there’s a lot of neat portable titles that’d be fun to play on the big screen). I plan to support either way, as long as Nintendo makes some good games for it, at least.

    That said, if a later reveal is better for sales and the competition not steal copying your ideas, do what you gotta do, Nintendo. Just wish it was March ’17 already ;p

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    • KobobKC ツ

      I don’t get it…

      • TheWeasel

        >.>

        <.<

        They're selling weeeeeeed

        Shhh…
        http://imgur.com/e3F0gDb.jpg

        • KobobKC ツ

          the “” didn’t work

          • TheWeasel

            Yep :T Edited

    • KobobKC ツ

      Downvoted and flagged

  • Cavalier

    Let’s hope it is a great idea.
    I really liked the Wii U and the gamepad even if it wasn’t used that much.

    Hopefully this new idea will get a lot of support from non-Nintendo devs.
    Either way I’m gonna have NX on launch day with Zelda.

    • Cavalier

      Pagan Miy

  • JasonBall

    Dang. A hundred comments. All I can say is that whatever it is, Nintendo will do it well and will deserve my money.

    • Tlink7

      Really? You’re just going to blindly buy anything they release? xD

      • JasonBall

        Absolutely

        • Tlink7

          Well, if you’ve got the funds and it makes you happy… go crazy 😀 I’m going to be more cautious, I bought a Wii U on day one and… well… I’m going to see what exactly will be available in the release window of the NX

          • JasonBall

            Power to you. Of course I’ll look at launch content, but Zelda is enough for me.

          • Tlink7

            Don’t you have a Wii U currently that you can play Zelda on?

          • JasonBall

            Nope

          • Tlink7

            Then it is probably a good idea to get the game on the NX, yeah 😀

          • JasonBall

            Yup. 😉

  • ronin4life

    Ah… I remember when this kind of comment got people hyped. Before gamers revealed/transformed themselves into mindless idiots regurgitating BS they had screamed at them on sewage level forums like n4g and neogaf.

    I miss those days.

    • KobobKC ツ

      Hey, I’m hyped for this! 😀

    • KobobKC ツ

      Maybe you should focus on the positive then. There are a lot of people hyped about this comment from Miyamoto.

      • ForeVision

        Hype is best tempered with a “seeing is believing” attitude, as it prevents disappointment.

      • ronin4life

        I try too… Not at all actually.

        But I know I should focus on the positive.All the negative stuff just gives me headaches >.>;;

        • KobobKC ツ

          I hope you do start doing that. You won’t regret it 🙂
          It’s your choice though, of course.

          • KobobKC ツ

            (Edit)

    • Kenshin0011

      I’m very excited about this because I hope it’s something really unique and awesome!

      But that doesn’t mean I’m not apprehensive that it might be a dud

    • Please don’t insult sewage by comparing it to Neogaf.

  • ForeVision

    Interesting, albeit deliberately vague. Here’s hoping for more information soon on what exactly this idea is, as it could be anything ranging from hardware to software.

  • ben
  • dannyxzero

    Thank you Nintendo for always thinking about fun!

  • Ektoras Kalderis

    Plz not VR . I ll pull out my hair. Iam warning you

    • ben

      There is zero chance.

  • Kenshin0011

    Everyone forgets that Nintendo’s NX is likely involved with some sort of free-form display.

    What this could definitively be, who knows, but I bet that Nintendo did indeed contract Sharp Corporation to develop a free-form display for them, based on reports 3 years or so ago.

    • R.Z.

      May be for their QoL business though.

  • awng781

    I wonder if this “idea” that Miyamoto is alluding to the increasing likeliness that the NX handheld and home console can share a software library thanks to an integrated software and hardware design, or if that “idea” refers to yet another controller gimmick.

  • Tetroy64

    I think it will be a great time to invest in Nintendo! Before the NX approaches the anticipation alone will drive stock prices through the roof! Buy it while you can! i just purchased another 100 shares of Nintendo Stock pushing my total to over 200 shares! Nintendo is life, and if it impacts yours as much as it does mine, invest in it too to ensure to make money from the company you love!

    • R.Z.

      I think I’m gonna put all of my spare … hmmm … -10 euros in Nintendo shares, yeah !
      That or I’ll buy an e-shop game.

  • Joe

    N’s PR strategy for the NX has been genius, imo. Super vague hint trickling and teasing over the course of a year. The game & tech media has been murmuring about N’s next big move the whole time. If this ends well, it’s going to be huge!

    • uPadWatcher

      I wouldn’t call it a Public Relations strategy.

      • TheWeasel

        What would you call it then?

      • Joe

        What would you call it?

  • If it’s a gimmick, please let it be secondary and not the focus of the console.

  • Masso

    When will they reveal the console?? If they are planing to release it around March 2017, they must reveal it in July, or August! they can’t reveal it only 3 or 4 months before release.

    • Michael Cortorreal

      Well, they can do just that…like have a real aggressive marketing campaign, 4 months is enough time if done right.
      But to be honest, I am hoping they say something this month or next month and if they don’t…hopefully by September – Octuber we get something on the matter.

    • R.Z.

      I’m thinking September-November.

  • MagcargoMan

    >173 comments

  • Aiddon

    Why do i get the feeling it’s going to be something that spooks Sony and MS? Heck, the announcement of the NX existing was followed by them doing half-iterations of their current consoles so I doubt they’re ignoring Nintendo. It also shows why Nintendo plays things so close to the chest.

  • Addy the Despised

    Well, my faith in the NX is virtually non-existent now.

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  • getagrip

    its not carts thats the huck the innovation theres something-s there hiding and perfecting

  • getagrip

    vr isnt mainstream and is already a dud and pokemon go destroyed vr in one move AR sellls 100 million in one game across apple and android

    vr is a joke

  • getagrip

    superior controls are NOT GIMMICKS

    putting lightbulbs and pointless finger pads on dualshocks is the GIMMICK

    second stick aiming and mousing is 90s DOGSHITE enough already with your bubububu but i want my controls to never evolve YOU POSS GAMERS DEGUST ME

    steam controler rocks as does wii remote and chuck you twin analog 1990s clund pad fanboys