Takahashi on Xenoblade Chronicles 2 themes and going all out, interested in smaller projects, more

GameSpot has joined other outlets with its own interview with Monolith Soft co-founder and president Tetsuya Takahashi. The discussion features talk about Xenoblade Chronicles 2, including the game’s theme and how it’s a culmination of all Takahashi has done and wanted to do in the past with previous titles. Some general industry topics are tackled here as well, including interest in working on smaller projects in the future if there’s an opportunity.

Continue on below for some notable excerpts from the interview. Head on over to GameSpot for the full discussion.

On how drama exists in real life between people, and how that’s the key focus for what he wants in Xenoblade Chronicles 2…

In terms of the drama between humans and previous games, this game has the name “Xeno.” Like I mentioned, it’s about differences or something out of the ordinary. Just take for example all of us in this room, we’re all from different places, and we are different personalities, and the way we think is different. To gather all of those people into one place, I think there is both positive and negative that can come out of that…Looking at a bigger scale, it can be survival of the fittest or things on a country-based scale, like invasion, something like that.

In this game world that we’re trying to create, there are these enormous beings called Titans that people live on and, that’s their land. But their land, the Titans, are dying. Once they die, they sink into the cloud sea, so all these people are going to lose their land. They’re not going to be able to survive, and I think when you look at it in the real world, I think something like that, something similar happens where there is a lot of competition for resources in the world we live in right now.

Relatively speaking, the United States or Japan are wealthy countries where people live comfortably, but on the other side there are countries that are very poor where people are struggling and suffering. Trying to think about what can we do for all of us to live together well and how can we do that is something that I think about when I’m trying to create games like this.

Then in terms of touching on the idea of religion a little bit, I think for us as Japanese people, we have a little bit of contradiction in terms of religion in that, in Japan, we celebrate Christmas, and then a few days later we go to the shrines to do New Year’s Prayer, which is based on Shintoism. When someone passes away, we ask Buddha’s monks to say our prayers. It’s kind of all over the place, but at the same time there is this idea of having tolerance for all those religions. That is something that I kind of wanted to put into my game, so that the idea of tolerance is something that can be had between people as well. And when we’re creating this world within the game, I kind of wanted to put that idea into the relationships that the characters have with each other and the relationship that the character has with his or her blade as well.

On Xenoblade Chronicles 2 in general…

I think in terms of Xenoblade 2, there’s always–like I mentioned–things that I wished I could have done or thought I should have done differently. I feel like Xenoblade 2 is my opportunity and my way to put all of that into reality. I say all of that, but I probably can’t do everything in that title, and I’m sure that when this game is done, I’ll have more post-mortem things to think about and more changes and different things that I’d like to do. That’ll be carried out to the next title, whatever it is that I work on. It’s this cycle that really keeps me going, but obviously if you’re stuck on one point, you can’t move forward, and the game will never be made, so there’s certain times where you have to kind of draw the line and say, “This is how far I’m going to go this time. Whatever is left, I’ll carry it on to the next game.” That’s kind of how I see it, but Xenoblade 2 is kind of like a culmination of all the things that I have done–and would like to have done–from my past.

On whether he’s interested in working on smaller projects…

If it was just a simple yes or no question, I would have to say yes, I would love to do something like that. But Monolith in and of itself has grown to be a big company, so we need big projects to sustain that company, for one. At the same time, if for example the next generation of developers and staff that could really handle a big game on their own [arrives]–if that comes up–then I’m kind of free to do whatever I want. When that time comes, I would love to work on maybe smaller projects.

On whether he only wants to create RPGs…

Actually, my favorite type of games are first-person shooters. Obviously, I like action games and strategy games. I like RPGs as well, but what happens is when I get involved in creating a game, it makes it hard to enjoy that game. For example, right now it’s very hard for me to enjoy RPGs because my perspective becomes that of a creator and not a user, in that I would always think, “Well, why is it this way? They could have done this, or this could have been done that way to improve.” It’s hard to get back into the user perspective. Although I’m interested in it, if I were to make different genres, then I wouldn’t be able to enjoy those.

On how games have become such a huge business…

I think the current status of the Japanese gaming industry is exactly that, where a lot of developers and publishers are kind of exhausted from creating major triple-A titles. There’s a lot of companies that are creating smaller-scale games like on smart devices. I feel like these kinds of games are kind of reminiscent of older games that were a lot simpler. Although I don’t think it’s bad, I don’t personally like it. I think a lot of publishers and developers have this kind of vision where–if you’ve seen the movie Brain Storm–you kind of put this equipment on, and you can actually go into the world itself. It’s almost like Matrix basically where you can really immerse yourself in the world and live in that world. I feel like myself included, that might be kind of like the ultimate form of interactive entertainment. With that said, the industry is right now at a point where it’s really not suitable to create big titles; however, I do have that vision that that’s the ultimate place, and I want to keep going. That’s why I create big games, and I would like to keep going until I can’t anymore.